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Report on Tulpamancing Advice from the Survey for fluently speaking tulpa

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((If anyone has comments or advice on improving formatting or presentation, etc. please let me know. Thanks, Narius.))

There have been a significant number of responses to the Survey (and stylometric test) for fluently speaking tulpa. As I was browsing through it, question number 109 caught my eye.

109. What advice would you give to a new tulpa creator?

I thought wow, there must be some good advice here with so many tulpa creators! So I read though them all for the various answers to the question. A few chose not to answer, or had replied to an earlier version without the question. However, over 60 did!

As I looked a the information I saw much advice reiterated or spoken in different ways. I read through the answers and kept track of each piece of advice and how many times it was given. I have taken the liberty of listing the answers citing the most common suggestions first. I tried to edit as little as possible but I did make a few edits for clarification. I hope this serves as a reference for those who don't have time to read over all 60 surveys.

Remember these are suggestions, and may not be work for everyone. However, this does give a good sense of what has worked for many!


Tulpamancing Advice Report

Compiled and Edited by NariusV - From survey results as of 3/28/2014


Introduction, some comments about dis-belief and tulpas.

If you are going about this just to test if it is true, it probably won't work and you'll walk away thinking you proved something.
Some skepticism is fine, but if you go into it thinking there's no way this is real, then nothing will come out of it.
You can have a hyper-detailed form an personality, but that won't be anything more than an idea if you don't believe in their sentience.


Advice for Tulpamancers, Top Ten

1. (29) Believe in yourself and in your tulpa. Trust your tulpa, and assume they are there! This is the key to success above all else.

2. (17) Be regular about your forcing sessions. Spend time and talk with your tulpa. If you are wondering about whether to force or not, force more! Always keep forcing, and do not be afraid to work on your tulpa too much. Don't make your tulpa wait for you. Do your best to reach out to them as often as you can. Pay lots of attention to your tulpa. Devote consistent attention to your tulpa. Do not neglect your tulpa. Listen closely if you think they are trying to talk. Be prepared to share everything with them.

3. (15) Don't be mean, or scornful towards your tulpa. Don't treat your tulpa like a doll or imagine they are 'just an aspect of yourself'. Treat your tulpa as one of your own family, as a close friend. Don't stifle their development based on your preconceived notions. Recognize your tulpa as existing as soon as possible. Treat your tulpa like a sentient being. Be honest with yourself, and your tulpa. Tell your tulpa exactly what they are from the start; don't keep it a secret from them. Be kind to your tulpa.

4. (12) Stay dedicated to your tulpas creation. Take it seriously and do not quit. Never, ever give up, no matter what! Be persistent, stay consistent, and do not lose faith.

5. (10) Go with the flow. Do what you think is right, what feels natural and comfortable. Enjoy the process, and every minute spent with your tulpa. Have fun!

6. (10) Be patient with the process. Don't worry about rushing through, and go at your own pace, and do not worry about hour counts.

7. (9) Do not worry, seriously! Do not fear anything. Don't stress over the process, or be discouraged.

8. (8) Love your tulpa with all your being!

9. (3) Avoid distractions for unimportant things. Stay off the internet and IRC if you have to. Get that forcing time in!

10. (2) Be confident in your tulpa, and in yourself.


Other advice for tulpa creation

Give your tulpa lots of hugs.
Force with an open mind.
Let your tulpas thoughts flow into you.
Take everything you get with enthusiasm.
Make a wonderland.
Give you tulpa a familiar form (makes it easier to visualize)
Work out personality.
Get involved with the community early on.
Think about what you are trying to achieve and think about how to achieve it.
Drink orange juice (it has helped many tulpamancers concentrate better.)
Include compassion as a trait.
Be open to new experiences.
Concentrate.


What to do if you get stuck (Educating Yourself)

If something isn't working... try something new!
Ask questions if you need to.
Read the guides, but tweak them so they work for you.
Try out your own things.
Read everything you can.
Remember all your successes (maybe keep a tulpa journal.)
Go by what the people in #Tulpa Info chat say.
Adjust your self and your tulpa and try different things.


Comments about tulpa creation

It's hard to mess up.
There is really no wrong way to make a tulpa.
If you feel something.. there is a high chance it is your tulpa.
You literally cannot mess up.


About forcing and tulpa creation

Tulpa creation is easy to blow off, but trust me- you won't waste any time if you are determined from the get-go.
It (Tulpa Creation) takes time but pays off exponentially in the end.
It may be frustrating, but it's worth it.


A few comments about tulpas

Your tulpa is special.
Your tulpa will come when they feel ready and have the chance.
They are more sentient than you think.


A few comments about parroting

Do not think you are parroting.
You are not parroting unless you do it on purpose!
If you do, doubt and parroting are not deal breakers.
Even more, if you’re parroting there’s a really good chance it’s your tulpa – especially if the words are coming out before you’re done with the sentence.
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03-29-2014, 05:12 AM
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RE: Report on Tulpamancing Advice from the Survey for fluently speaking tulpa

((If anyone has comments or advice on improving formatting or presentation, etc. please let me know. Thanks, Narius.))

Yes, include a section for tulpa instantanious imposition and instant switching and you will be golden. Until then, disapproved.
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RE: Report on Tulpamancing Advice from the Survey for fluently speaking tulpa

While you do remind people that these won't work for everyone, I think you should also add that you are following them at your own risk. Not all of the suggestions are good like >Go by what the people in #Tulpa Info chat say. I sure think it's a great idea to listen to newbies who just made a tulpa a minute ago and who think switching is just possession, if even that.

Disbelief is written disbelief, not dis-belief. Also >Stay dedicated to your tulpas creation should be tulpa's. Just few things that I noticed right away.

In the end, well. This isn't a guide. It's a collection of tips but they're answers collected from a survey other hosts have answered to. Something like that almost makes me think resources, but eh, what do I know. I can't say I see anything that I would disapprove with the force of a thousand suns, but I'm just wondering where the rest of the GAT would put this.

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I'm thinking Resources, since it is a generalization from a survey that newcomers could build assurance on, but not as their only means of making any justifications of course. And if it goes to GD, it'll eventually be faded away.


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(04-08-2014, 04:00 PM)mayormorgan Wrote: ((If anyone has comments or advice on improving formatting or presentation, etc. please let me know. Thanks, Narius.))

Yes, include a section for tulpa instantanious imposition and instant switching and you will be golden. Until then, disapproved.

This is a report on others advice from the survey, not my own guide. I prefer to make only formatting changes. If it's not useful, delete it. If it is, put it where it will help.

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I don't know why you'd want to put it in Resources. If anything, the source of the advice makes it more reliable than your average set of advice. As a collection of tips it would probably go best in Tips, so I'll approve it for there.
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RE: Report on Tulpamancing Advice from the Survey for fluently speaking tulpa

Approved, Resources or Tips and Tricks (pick whichever is more popular among the GAT, I'm fine with either section).

However, there are a few things worth considering:
Quote:If you are going about this just to test if it is true, it probably won't work and you'll walk away thinking you proved something.
Some skepticism is fine, but if you go into it thinking there's no way this is real, then nothing will come out of it.
You can have a hyper-detailed form an personality, but that won't be anything more than an idea if you don't believe in their sentience.

While that seems to be true for most people, I've seen cases where someone still ended up with a tulpa despite not having a belief in it - the belief can develop based on the evidence the tulpa gives their host.

Having some trust in one's tulpa may speed some things up, but I don't truly think it's a mandatory component, even if useful.

Most of the advice is good, although at least some is a bit questionable or incompatible - this is to be expected when the advice comes from different people with different views.

I would also like to recommend that people look through the survey for various interesting patterns - not just out-of-context advice - you'll be surprised what you'll find.
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Waffles, I guess we're saying resources because it's so resource-y in the way it has been gathered and presented.

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What he said.


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I don't know what's Resource-y about that. It's well-researched? Doesn't really make it so to me. Resources is for "items that are purely supplemental, such as tones or scripts", but this is a list of tips and not that. So I don't know why you want it there.
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