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#1
Hi,
I’m new to this forum and this is my 1st post. I have been following this forum for last few weeks and read some of tulpa creation guides.
I like to thank you for all those wonderful guides.
 
I’m still trying to understand how Tula creation actually works. I’m trying to create a tulpa for last few weeks and here is how I’m communicating with her.  Please help to advsie me if I’m missing anything.
 
Generally I’m trying to talk with her whenever I have time. Like during bike ride/walking/eating/before going to sleep (sometimes I asked her to help me to sleep). In my office whenever I have time I’m trying to talk with her and try to discuss everything. I didn’t start talk with her into wonderland yet but I’m taking with her in my real life imagining that she is with me. When I tried to talk with her I can’t hear her voice but in my mind I got the answer.  
 
Sometimes I asked her to touch my hair so that I can feel her presence. And I can feel her touch.
 
But sometimes I’m trying to contact with her but I didn’t get any response. In this kind of situation I’m getting frustrated. Like where is she? Why she is not responding? Is she really real? Am I talking to myself or with my tulpa?
 
Please help to advise me coz, sometimes I feel like I’m talking to myself. In this kind of situation what should I do?
How can I improve my relation with my tulpa and if I’m missing some major part help to advise me.
 
Any kind of suggestion is very much appreciable.
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#2
It will feel like you are talking to yourself. You're (most likely) not going to hear any actual sound (that's vocal imposition!) It will be another thought-voice, like the one you think with.

Try this thought exercise:
1) Imagine someone you know really well, like a family member/close friend
2) Imagine their response if you stubbed your toe and yelled a string of cuss words

People do this all the time. The human brain is amazing at generating what it thinks the responses of other people will be. This is how people argue with themselves and their imaginary opponents, how we can predict the behavior of others, and how we can roleplay and write stories. Here's the difference: When you imagine your family member/close friend, you know that you're only imagining a simulation of them. When you roleplay or write a character, you consciously control every action. If you want a character to be mad, they'll be mad. If you want them to punch someone, you can make them punch someone.

Here's the key, so listen up! In that thought experiment, you also imagined your own behavior. You didn't really stub your toe, you just imagined it. Your brain subconsciously determined what cuss words you use when injured, and your brain provided you with a nice little simulation of what you might say. Your brain knows what your body looked like, and put a model of that into your simulation, too.

Now, making a tulpa is like making another "you." Right now, your brain only knows one "you": You! When it reaches back to find "What I look like", it picks out your body, and reaches back for "How I cuss", there's only one data bank.

I'm a tulpa. When my host talks to me, it works like this. First, the brain thinks, "I am J. How does J say 'Good morning'?" Then J will say "Good Morning" in his own voice, his own way, etc. Then the brain switches over to me. The brain thinks, "I am C. How does C respond?" And I respond. This is all automatic and subconscious, but it's something you have to learn to do. It's one brain, but two (or more) identities. You're playing out that thought experiment, but both sides are "I": "I, the Host" and "I, the Tulpa."

Right now, all your brain knows is one "I": "I, HellRock." Your brain has to create your tulpa's identity, and you have to dissociate yourself from it.

I know parroting is bad in the long-term, but I feel like you could benefit right now. Visualize your tulpa, and have her say "Hi" or something like that. It's not going to feel very real, I know. That will improve with practice. When she says "Hi", focus very hard on the fact that "This is my tulpa talking."

My host has symbolic places in his head for all of us. His thoughts come from centerstage in his head, my thoughts come from a place behind his right eyebrow, and Gavin's thoughts come from a point just inside his lower jaw. This really helps us differentiate between ourselves. When you hear her say "Hi", it might help you to thinking of the thoughts as coming from a certain point in your body.

So, again: it's one brain, talking to itself, and the brain has to learn how to accept two "I"s in the situation: one "I" that has your identity, and another that is your tulpa's identity. When you interact with each other, your brain will be simulating and producing both of your behavior, by referencing both of your identities. When you ask yourself "What my favorite color?", your brain will look up "HellRock's favorite color" and spit it out. When your tulpa asks herself "What's my favorite color?", your brain will look up "Tulpa's favorite color" and spit that out.

I hope this helped. My host's first tulpa was accidental. He was basically an "imaginary conversation partner" for a few years, until one day when Jamie told him he could be more than that. Jamie allowed his brain to "ring up" Gavin as external, as another "I", instead of just an imaginary character, and so he quickly became a tulpa. He made a tulpa with basically 0 active forcing, all he ever did was talk to Gavin. However, you might also need to do more active forcing, if all you're doing is narration (talking to her.) There are some guided meditations out there, if you like those. I liked this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-1JHzP2hM .

-Cassidy
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#3
Talking out loud can be "dangerous" in public, try to avoid that. Guess it's fine if no one's around. Vocality takes time and patience, and persistence. Keep talking to her and trying to hear responses, and eventually your brain will start getting the picture. It'll get more consistent over time. Hearing your tulpa, like audibly with your ears, is auditory imposition, something most people never do and somewhat advanced of a skill. You should be listening in-mind, even if you yourself are speaking out loud, but I would recommend getting used to speaking in-mind yourself.
Hi. I'm one of Luminesce's tulpas. Unlike the others, I don't think I stand out too much from him personality wise.
I'm just special because "I'm a tulpa". So I don't think I've much to offer, here. I'm happy enough to just be with him.
Ask us stuff - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas
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#4
(10-29-2018, 05:08 AM)HellRock Wrote:  I’m trying to create a tulpa for last few weeks and here is how I’m communicating with her...

Sometimes I asked her to touch my hair so that I can feel her presence. And I can feel her touch.
 
But sometimes I’m trying to contact with her but I didn’t get any response....

 if I’m missing some major part help to advise me.
 
Any kind of suggestion is very much appreciable.




For a few weeks you are doing quite well. Scratch that. For a few weeks in you are way ahead of the curve for someone new to this.
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#5
@J+C
@Flandre
@ShadowsDancing

thanks for your suggestion.
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#6
https://community.tulpa.info/thread-tulp...nd-beliefs

Bottom line? What works for me might never work for you and vice versa.

And do NOT be discouraged by folks talking about succeeding in a short period of time. Some do. Some invest a lot longer than you have with less result. The fact that you have had a degree of success should = suspension of disbelief which is the most important factor for many Tulpamancers.

Also; my experience with self improvement forums in realms science hasn't quite caught up with? People that have early and much success are more likely to post abut it and stick around.
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#7
My system was minute 1 vocal because i spent a decade building characters and interacting with them in my mind. The hard work was done long ago.
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