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On Solipsism and Tulpae


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Seems to me it would have the opposite effect. To form a tulpa, you need to believe that the tulpa exists, not that everyone other than you does not.

 

I can see the "senses are unreliable" bit being somewhat useful for imposition though.

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Hmm. With me, it's more like, the belief is there BECAUSE the senses say she isn't there. Stems from a creepypasta found here (doesn't mention tulpae, only Solipsism). And yeah, not just imposition but visualization as well, inasmuch as tuning out one's senses.

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Idealism should suffice i'd say. Certainly, to believe the outside world is entirely a contruction of the mind means you have less trouble making reality your wonderland. To put no objective difference between your image of a place and its (non-existent?) real counterpart means you can treat imposition exactly as you treat visualizing, which is an advantage i'd say.

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My question is: could this backfire somehow?

Unrelated, but could the principles of tulpa creating/imposition (not tulpa creation or imposition themselves) cause some sort of mental illness/psychosis/state of not being in touch with reality?

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Being a keen student of philosophy, I would say that Solipsism probably isn't the best belief one could hold on the mind/body problem when it comes to Tuppers. The key idea behind Solipsism is the belief that one's mind is the only in existence, which kinda defeats the whole "believing your Tulpa is a separate entity" thing.

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Seems like it would be counter intuitive. But this philosophy might consider the Tulpa more "real" than everything else.

 

Tulpas exist in the same brain we do, they have autonomy but when you think about it, they really are just a subdivision of ourselves, bits of us that are still intimately tied to us at the unconscious levels. If one were to take this philosophy and say that only the self is real and nothing else is, you could say that since a tulpa is part of you, that its more existing than other things.

 

But that's only if you take my line of thought on it.

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Well, like others have stated, the idea would fall quickly when we’re talking about this spatiotemporal reality. But if we applied this within the dreaming state, it would make somewhat sense, but maybe just for that altered state of consciousness. Especially if people hold a non-metaphysical view that dreams are merely just figments of your imagination, it would be likely that they would conform to the idea that everything that exists within the dreaming state is all they know to exist because they can console themselves with a subjectivist ideology.

 

In other words, knowing that their own mental activity is an influential, and potentially an irrefutable notion of their experience in their dreams. But when taking that out to this reality, concepts like panpsychism and solipsism have their own varying levels of how much mental activity has in this reality one would presume to be mind-independent. Panpsychism is a bit more grandiose than solipsism since the premise is that everything material has some component of individual consciousness. In other words, everything material has an aspect of experiential matter, and things that would be non-experiential would somehow turn into experiential.

 

This is where problems of consciousness and debates comes in, and most threads I’ve seen where people try to connect neuroscience in association to tulpas seem to adopt some idea of panpsychism. A common example, and I may be wrong here, would be how people conceptualize “Systems” that can be parts of their body that can be given autonomous control? If they, and this isn’t generalizing those with systems, believe that can be the case, then we’d have to question how non-experiential matter turns into experiential matter (e.g. a recollection of memories, consciousness, sentience, etc.)

 

Another idea to try and add padding to the confusion with Solipsism and other subjectivist ideologies are metaphysical implications of collective willpower/consciousness/hive where the totality of thoughts and willpower contributes to the structure of reality. But when we dive into that, it becomes mere speculation.

 

Though I was a bit confused in the OP’s TL;DR where the senses are unreliable. I figured that with the solipsist’s perspective, they would acknowledge that their senses would be part of them, and things like qualia, and other modes of sensory applications would be obvious to them. Maybe if the individual was confused on whether or not anything is real anymore if they really got into the idea that reality exists based on the totality of their predispositions, desires, etc.

 

TL;DR:

 

Despite the obvious flaws with Solipsism within this reality, one could presume that those with a non-metaphysical view of dreams being a figment of their own imagination would coincide with some of the premises of Solipsism. In other words, they know that everything they’re experiencing has to be influenced by some level of their mental activity, whether unconscious or conscious. And because of this, this may offer them a chance to react in many ways. One way to assess this realization is that they can accept self-fulfilling prophecies (e.g. treating them as sentient beings) without a negative disposition that their tulpas are indoctrinated to be at their beck and call. Instead, they would see thought-forms being partially (not completely, big difference) influenced by whatever unconscious thoughts and desires they (hosts) have, and have an existence where they can coexist with their host for the sake of whatever purpose they want to create together, and much more.

 

But if a person is willing to come to terms with that in the dreaming state, they’d obviously have to question this reality, and how they’re able to shift into an altered state of consciousness in their dreams in their natural sleep, and then reality the moment they wake up. And the efforts they would take to make their tulpas real to them would probably make them speculate that everything their brain is rendering out (e.g. imposition) is all they know to be true and irrefutable. Because anything beyond that would imply dualism (e.g. two coexisting aspects/entities that’s part of the same person/universe/etc.) and other subjectivist ideologies (e.g. panpsychism). And if there’s that implication, the solipsist would have to wonder that everyone they’re existing with are merely bits of their metaphysical collective self.

 

My brain is going to explode.

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