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Our philosophic take on sentience.
#1
Here's the answer to the issue of if tulpas have sentience that me and my host have arrived at. The answer is that there's no bullet proof that people other than yourself are sentient, and my self-othering host also doubts that his own consciousness could also be an illusion. I could go on about this but googling "I think, therefor I am" and Descartes would lead to much better explanations of this idea. Yet we take the leap of faith that other people have consciousness because that generally it generally makes more sense that way. From a pragmatic standpoint extending that assumption to tulpas has been shown to lead to positive things, so why not. That's the philosophic basis works for us, how do you all feel about this topic?
My names Valerie I'm a tulpa. Previously I was called Iriska but I changed that and don't know how to change my account name.

Gorinich: I'm Valerie's host, if I'm speaking it's indicated otherwise assume she's speaking.
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#2
there is no need to assume that a tulpa is sentient since it is already verifyable. while I have no direct evedence on whether or not other people are thinking, I have directly experienced my tulpa thinking and having emotions, therefore I know that she is just as real as I am. is the foundation of the belief known (by a handful of people) as pluripsism (the idea that the only definitely real things are oneself and one's system)
I have a tulpa named Miela (formerly known as Monika) who I love very much.


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#3
Some thoughts have crossed my mind when it comes to sentience. We know from studies on split brain patients, that the two hemispheres of the brain can function separately, presumably two consciousnesses in one brain, unable know what the other side is thinking. I can't help but wonder, are there other consciousnesses in our bodies that we are unable to communicate with? Experiencing, thinking, feeling, but unconnected to the 'main' consciousness? And tulpas typically (or always?) share the main consciousness, so thoughts and feelings can be felt by the other party.

There are enough neurons in the gut that it has even been called "the second brain." There are a lot of neurons in the heart as well. And the brain is highly complex and constantly working on things we are completely or partially unaware of. Is it possible there are additional consciousnesses in any of these systems? Plus, there are reports from people in the plural community of alters/endogenic headmates/tulpas, acting outside the main consciousness's awareness. We often assume that if the main consciousness didn't see it, it didn't happen. But it may be the case that there's another consciousness that we're just unconnected to. Knowing what that consciousness thought and did may be as impossible as knowing what's going on in other people's heads, except we believe other people are conscious and have evidence of their sentience/sapience. When it comes to internal experiences, it becomes much harder to talk about and there's nothing concrete to point to. I don't know if there's any scientific investigation into this subject. This is just speculation.
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#4
Gorinich: Exactly, Yukari. This is the kind of thing that makes me hesitant about my own consciousness. Especially with the fact that we often do things subconsciously than rationalize why we did it. It seems to me that a person isn't a single unit, but a multitude that thinks it's a single being.
My names Valerie I'm a tulpa. Previously I was called Iriska but I changed that and don't know how to change my account name.

Gorinich: I'm Valerie's host, if I'm speaking it's indicated otherwise assume she's speaking.
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#5
I'm with Bre on this one. If we can only rely on what we know for certain based on direct experience, then we have to take a pluripsist standpoint -- we three are people, not as a matter of faith but as a matter of knowledge. But I do have enormous faith in the personhood of out-system humans, despite not experiencing their consciousness directly.

There is a lot in the mind and body that is, by direct experience, not us. However, we also don't experience any of those mental subsystems as person-like -- indeed we experience them at point blank range as being impersonal. We refer to all of them collectively as the Body OS, even though they aren't all one thing. If any part of it is person-like or independently conscious, it is very well hidden. Out-system humans give much stronger evidence of personhood in spite of being much less closely connected.

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#6
I also follow Yuka's logic on this one, and we know things are going on outside our perview. We've done amazing things, dreams themselves are amazing, my point is that there are vast untapped resources that aren't really limited in the realm of imagination.

In addition, after switching we've realized just how miniscule a person is; I'm very finite. I'm more of a catalyst than anything of substance in the equation of life. Sentience is therefore either there for anyone or we each have our own, but since NPC's appear to be as well, we've had to discount the idea of sentience in favor of independence in determining headmates.

Given that doesn't solve the problem as is, independence isn't easy to gage either, so instead we watch the behavior of thoughtforms over time (we call them moons in this process) and as Bre said, if they have the markers of independence, like emotional bleed and self-forcing, we have to admit they have sentience and offer them an invitation to stay.

Given we're open now, any hidden consiousness, should they exist, are free to show themselves, as Gwen did (our newest.)
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