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It seems like everyone is either neutral about possession, or actively working towards it. However, I find the entire idea of possession terrible, as I loathe the idea of anyone being in control of my body over me. Has anyone else had a similar fear, and if so how have you coped with it?

 

My tulpa is still young, just showing the first signs of sentience, and I wish nothing but the best for her. I'm worried that my fears will negatively impact her growth, or that she'll feel that she isn't trusted enough because possession is completely off the table. In fact, an attempt at it would be pretty much the only grounds I can foresee for me wanting to get rid of her.

 

I've heard that after having practiced it a tulpa can sometimes possess without the implicit permission of the creator. That's with a young (compared to how our tulpae will be in say, 20-40 years from now) tulpa, which has been taught to possess. Would it be possible, then, for an aged and experienced tulpa to potentially possess without having been given permission at any time?

 

tl;dr - I'm fearful of possession, and wish to make sure it can never occur, while still wanting my tulpa to feel trusted. Has anyone felt the same way, and what should be done in this situation?

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It's possible to not like it and not do it without "loathing" it or having "fears" about it. As with most tulpa-related things, don't worry. Remember, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." This holds true for tulpas because much of how the process works is determined by your beliefs. Anyway, it's not possible for a tulpa to forcefully possess you against your will, flat out. Those instances in which it may seem otherwise are just isolated incidents of people thinking they didn't give permission, when in fact they did. Just say, "No," and things will be perfectly fine.

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Can a tupper do it against your will? I'd say probably not, because you can fight it and that won't really make for good possession. If you can't fight it then you're having some pussy issues and you should understand that your tupper's not stronger than you. Maybe equal, but not stronger, you're only limiting yourself. Can they do it without you giving them permission? Well, I guess. Start it, at least. For us it was only a try to test it out so I guess it was technically a permission that was given, but I wasn't expecting it right then at that very moment and when I asked Roswell to stop because I was chickening out, he did so.

 

You gotta have trust man. You don't work on a lot of this shit if you can't trust your tupper, at least you shouldn't. We got rules when it comes to body control, for both of us. We trust each other, because we both know things will get awkward if we break the rules. Again, for both of us, we couldn't really live together if we lived in constant fear of the other trying to get in the way somehow due to being selfish. If there's no trust though, then you don't do it, you don't even try. I don't see a reason for you to be afraid of this thing unless your tupper is a complete jerk, in which case I don't even understand why you want to live with them, but there's no reason why you would have to do this either, if you don't feel fine with it. Sure I talked about trust and here I'm saying you won't do it because you don't trust them, but why should you trust someone you basically just met? Give it some time, see how things will go. Maybe you'll change how you feel later, maybe you won't. You'll at least be having another opinion to think of then. Be ready to do a lot of compromises, but if you're not alright with something, your tupper should understand that and not force it on you.

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I don't have a fear of it, but it's not a specific goal of ours as neither I nor my tulpa enjoy what we have experienced as far as possession.

 

I think of it a bit like driving and a tulpa like a passenger. Some people during the long trip might opt to switch out with the passenger from time to time, but not everyone will. It's a bit like being afraid of taking a friend with you because they might drive your car. It's not necessary and it doesn't have to be a concern I don't think. I would also vote for working on trust, I doubt your tulpa would want to do anything against your will.

 

 

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"Hehe, I've been told to do so whenever I feel like it. I really see no point to 99% of the time, though; I only fulfill it when I'm being proxied for on IRC. The only difference between possession and no possession in this scenario is speed and less potential interference. Overall, I really just don't care about possession, even though it's occasionally nice to be able to do it.

 

But yeah, just say 'No.' You should still give a sufficient explanation, though, because otherwise it might seem to your tulpa that you're restricting her unnecessarily or being a hypocrite."

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I suppose I'll just have to trust in my tulpa, then. It's just difficult because she's still so young that I can't really have definitive conversations with her. As soon as I can do so I'm sure my fears will be assuaged, but until then it continually nags at the back of my mind.

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It's not like you have to do possession. It doesn't have to be a trust issue if you don't want to do it; if you find the idea of it horrible then fine, but that's not the same as being afraid of your tulpa stealing your body and doing whatever.

I mean, I'm not you so I don't know, but you seem to be conflating disliking something thus fearing it, and not trusting your tulpa thus fearing it. I get the impression that it's the first from your OP, and maybe I'm wrong, but that has little to do with trust. You can trust your tulpa absolutely and still hate the idea of possession and the like.

 

No, lingering fear shouldn't negatively affect your tulpa. If it's not happening then forget about it, and if it is then forget about it anyway because it'a not happening yet.

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We don't have possession working yet, but I very much want it to work. We've gotten as far as simple pointless movements with full possession, and doing actual useful actions but with some kind of co-control where it's ultimately my will being acted on but partially one of them doing the movement.

 

I realized pretty early on that I really have nothing to fear from Lyra, or either of my other tulpae (though Lyra came first and I'm closest with her). I'd be able to feel any malicious intent in her, and I can feel the lack of it.

 

I do still have some latent control issues. I worry a bit sometimes that she might screw things up despite having the best intentions, though this is a silly thing to worry about because she could easily ask me if anything comes up. But my biggest worry when trying to let go of control is that I might be giving the control to random mental noise, subconscious urges or intrusive thoughts (which I generally repress and don't trust a whole lot) rather than her.

 

Another issue I've had is that an unexpected muscle movement I didn't cause for grabs my attention and when my attention moves to that part of the body I grab back control of it.

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Well, I was paranoid afraid of any form of control over me. I thought this fear could be dangerous for Lyra so I got "shock therapy" - possession. At first Lyra didn't want to do it, I had to convince her to try it, she was afraid of it as well (Lyra\ I, on the other hand, was afraid he would overuse this, that he would like to escape real life.). It worked, this irrational fear died and now we're masters with possession, we're trying switching and Lyra is writing this post for me as it's her time now.

 

What's the the moral of this story? If you are afraid of possession your tulpa most likely will be afraid of it too, but and the end there is nothing to be afraid of, you just got to trust yourself and your tulpa.

 

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