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Tulpa Attention Dependency


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I keep seeing this mentioned here and there on the forums, yet no one really explains how it happens (if ever) or what exactly it is.

 

From my understanding (and please understand that I am probably wrong), it happens when a tulpamancer pays too much attention to their tulpa. Supposedly, this causes a situation where the tulpa can't really function like a tulpa. It never really learns how to be independent (i.e. has its own voice, thinks "parallel" to the host). Now for me the thing I want most is a completely sentient, independent tulpa. Since I am nowhere NEAR that goal just yet, I want to make sure that I am doing it as "correctly" and constructively as possible. I realise that tulpamancy is a subjective process, so don't think I am trying to say there is a right way and a wrong way to force.

 

I am a new member to the community and I want to learn from other's mistakes. I don't want this happening to my tulpa, since I am pretty attached to the little guy event though I can't carry on a conversation with him.

 

Is this real? Has this happened to anyone? Please share your experiences.

 

For those who found Scylla's comments about the bullshit and tl;dr strange, I edited this post.

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That tl;dr comment wasn't really needed, your post isn't tl;dr, we're used to Linkzelda here. And telling people to go fuck themselves doesn't really make them willing to help you. I also don't see what's bullshit about your post. Tulpaforcing is subjective, which is exactly why you should be trying to find a method that works for you. The only way to do it right is to do whatever works for you and your tulpa, and the only way to do it wrong is to continue doing something that doesn't.

 

To answer your question - giving your tulpa more attention makes it more independent. I don't know who told you otherwise, but from personal experience, I generally feel much better after a good talk with my host. Just look at it from the other side - not giving your tulpa attention at all doesn't develop them. How would giving them attention prevent them from developing, in that case?

 

I'm moderately independent, and I'm pretty sure I would've developed a lot more if my host had given me more attention. I hope that answers your question, but make sure to wait until other people have replied as well, before drawing a conclusion.

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No, it's not from paying too much attention to your tulpa... from what I've gathered, that's how tulpas are in the beginning often times - the host only hears the tulpa when they are paying attention to them, etc.

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From my understanding (and please understand that I am probably wrong), it happens when a tulpamancer pays too much attention to their tulpa. Supposedly, this causes a situation where the tulpa can't really function like a tulpa. It never really learns how to be independent (i.e. has its own voice, thinks "parallel" to the host).

 

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Is this real? Has this happened to anyone? Please share your experiences.

 

As far as I know, no, this isn't real. I don't know where you're drawing this conclusion from but I really don't know about it happening. Like the ahegao said, it's pretty much a given that more attention leads to greater development. I wouldn't give it universally that this leads to independence by itself, but it's likely I think.

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Supposedly' date=' this causes a situation where the tulpa can't really function like a tulpa[/quote']

 

We can’t really explain with absolute certainty to you if this presumption is wrong or not. It’s a circumstantial matter on whether or not the host can overcome the deadlock they tend to get themselves in. Seeing how one’s mindset contributes in some way to the outcome of having a tulpa, if they can’t be reflective enough to get out of that trap, then it may be a reason why they worry about putting too much attention to their tulpas. Though like waffles declared, I agree that more attention contributes to development.

 

Since I am nowhere NEAR that goal just yet' date=' I want to make sure that I am doing it as "correctly" and constructively as possible. I realise that tulpamancy is a subjective process, so don't think I am trying to say there is a right way and a wrong way to force.[/quote']

 

This experience is trial and error honestly, or a progressive learning curve. But something you may want to keep in mind when entering that subjectivity, and take this loosely:

 

Any modes of reaching progress are perfectly fine, but there are some consequences to them to some extent. The idea is to find the underlying concepts behind every symbolism, presumption, theories, and dispositions, and how they can contribute to you making the breakthrough.

 

It never really learns how to be independent (i.e. has its own voice' date=' thinks "parallel" to the host). Now for me the thing I want most is a completely sentient, independent[/quote']

 

Maybe based on the time frame you’re at, it seems improbable to you, but just like how we as humans have gained experiential learning in conceptualizing reality, tulpas need time to develop as well. Some people get lucky and see some breakthroughs every now and then, but seeing this for the long-term may be something to keep in mind.

 

I am a new member to the community and I want to learn from other's mistakes. I don't want this happening to my tulpa' date=' since I am pretty attached to the little guy event though I can't carry on a conversation with him.[/quote']

 

It’s good that you’re being considerate of your tulpa, and reducing as many mistakes as possible, but people are bound to make mistakes at some point. But it adds on to the progressive learning curve of this experience.

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