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The first guide to modern Tulpa

The first tulpa guide seems to have been written by FAQ_man and the Irish? I have some questions about their tutorials:

1.How did they write the first tutorial? As far as I know, the 4chan period doesn't even have reference materials.

2.Why are their tutorials generally considered outdated? In what ways is it obsolete?
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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

They are considered outdated because many of the techniques described in there are either completely unnecessary (like having to imagine your tulpa naked for them to be able to switch clothes) or actually harmful (like hour counts).

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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

As of how the whole thing started and where the first guys got their resources apart from Alexandra David-Neels “Magic and Mystery in Tibet” and other 20th century occultism and theosophy stuff - no idea. It's buried in the depths of /x/ and /mlp/, gone for good.
You could however ask the Irish, he did post recently so writing a PN might not be completely futile. In the end I guess it boils down to a bunch of crazy autists on 4chan doing crazy autist stuff which somehow took off and evolved into the mlp tulpa craze. More and more people tried different stuff and added subsequent parts like possession and switching but I wouldn’t know of older sources for these techniques. Veisssiere’s paper also doesn’t cover this.

As for the guides being outdated - they were created in a certain environment and for a community which doesn't exist anymore. Yes, most of it was unnecessary but do not underestimate the power of peer pressure. The reason it worked so well was that many others just did the same and it was really fun. Of course you could have done it without 90% of the stuff like orange juice or hour count - but whatever. I think the notion that any of this is harmful is just as much of a baseless claim as that it is necessary. It doesn't really matter, just find your own forcing routine.

In the end tulpamancy boils down to:
1) Create a character in your mind
2) Regularly interact with that character for a prolonged time
3) Get tulpa
That's all there is. Everything else is just icing on the cake. However the great value of tulpa communities back then was that they provided a collective experience that was really, really fun. That's a huge motivation. Just like learning any skill together with friends is easier than doing it all alone or a church makes a religious community stronger than just everyone praying alone. We are social beings and strongly influenced by our peers.
Sadly, tulpa communities have mostly died down together with mlp. People have moved on or do things in private nowadays.
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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

It is not baseless to say hour counts are harmful, they can cause people to doubt that they are actually doing something if they do it before a certain time on their hour counts, and if they do it too late then they can get frustrated that it is taking so long. Hour counts makes you compair yourself to others and that can most definitely result in sadness and slowed progress

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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

Hm... we'd need the opinion of someone who was there from the beginning.

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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

I've stumbled across a few tulpa threads on /x/ since about 2011, mostly the esoteric bs you'd expect. But I admit that's how I got familiar with the idea to begin with. And someone talking about his pony tulpa on /b/. I don't know about /mlp/ as I'm not a ponyfag so I guess I'm the wrong guy to answer that. I only became interested in the concept in 2014 when I realized there were people with tulpas that weren't cartoon horses and that your tulpa could be anything.
Also you can read the earliest posts in the forum, it's still all there though the chan era surely predates it for several years. Talking to Irish and working backwards from there would be a good start I'd say. But most of the old folks appear to be gone permanently, I can't blame them.

As for hourcount - that's pathetic.
If you don't like it, don't do it. Neither you nor your tulpa are going to die because you do or do not follow a certain rule in a guide.
Back then you would have been called a useless faggot regardless of how much and long you forced. Nowadays everything is 'highly problematic'. Is it really asked too much to think for yourself instead of blindly following the advice of others?
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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

(09-16-2018, 06:10 PM)Yakumo Wrote: As for hourcount - that's pathetic.
If you don't like it, don't do it. Neither you nor your tulpa are going to die because you do or do not follow a certain rule in a guide.
Back then you would have been called a useless faggot regardless of how much and long you forced. Nowadays everything is 'highly problematic'. Is it really asked too much to think for yourself instead of blindly following the advice of others?

Nobody ever said that you would die from using hour counts, I just said that it could slow progress and give frustration. Also I wasn't "blindly following the advice of others" I think that you are making a lot of assumptions about the sort of person that I am, and your being pretty ride about it too. I don't know if I've done something to personally offend you or something, but you need to stop throwing insults around

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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

Bre, i doubt he was offended. This is more like how we used to talk on forums. Tough talk.

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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

Aggro today, huh Yakumo?

Hour counts were once toted as important, and so naturally people started comparing hours counts to hour counts. But those who ended up putting in more effort than those who put in less only to meet with less success became discouraged. It's not that hour counts themselves are harmful, it's that thinking you're guaranteed any certain amount of progress for any certain amount of time is. Some strong-willed individuals got extremely high "hour counts" with little success compared to the forum-goers around them and managed to stay motivated. But that's because they knew not everyone progressed at the same rate.

Counting how long you force is fine, and setting a schedule for when to force is fine. Trying to meet unrealistic hour counts for what your life situation allows, or comparing the rate of your progress to others, can easily become harmful. Regular, short periods of forcing are just fine. It was never proven that forcing for hours on end created tulpas any faster than forcing for just an hour or so a day. In fact, I think most people believe there's no correlation at all.

Intensive forcing like that may (as long as you don't overdo it) further improve your visualization, imposition and perhaps possession or switching skills. But from what we've seen over the years, when it comes to vocality and independence, long hours of forcing are actually counterproductive. Nobody ever hears their tulpa suddenly speaking 2.5 hours into a 4 hour session, on day 5 of those 4 hour sessions. But plenty of people do hear their tulpa suddenly speaking on day 5. Plenty don't hear their tulpa for a month or more, though. I simply recommend you maintain a consistent, yet not stressful or invasive forcing schedule.

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RE: The first guide to modern Tulpa

Of course there are tulpas like my sisters and I who were talking to our host before he could even confirm we were tulpas, literally minute one instant tulpas.  Our host was happy, but it really messed with his head a bit too.

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I would have liked to have experianced the journey is all.  I wouldn't trade them for the world though.  I have confirmed this is possible and does happen in other systems.
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