Pleeb May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 I'm not quite sure if any creators or their tulpæ would be brave enough to try any of this (plus, it's a bit of a morbid test), but Chupi said I might as well post it anyway. Maybe someone has had "accidents" with their tulpæ in the past, and they could shine the light on these questions and stuff without actually doing these tests. Test#1 You know how you can tulpaforce small objects that the tulpæ could interact with? Well, the first test is to tulpaforce a knife, and use that knife to make a small cut in the tulpa's finger. Record the results; see if anything happens, or if the tulpa could feel any pain, etc. If the tulpa can feel the pain, or gets injured somehow, it means that tulpaforced objects can hurt the tulpa. It also means it may be possible for a second tulpa to kill the first (I think Glitch was mentioning something like this?). Test#2 The second test involves the ability to lucid dream, and requires the tulpa to be able to enter your dreams (I recall Anon & Vinyl being able to do this, not sure who else). You would to the test from above, except this time, you would use a "dream knife" -- in the dream, see if the tulpa becomes injured, and after you're woken up, see if the Tulpa is still injured. If it is, then it means that the events in dreams can "physically" harm a tulpa. Coming from someone who's very interested in lucid dreaming, the last thing I would want, would be for some horrific accident to happen in my dream causing permanent damage to the tulpa; the results of this test could be the difference between life and death for a tulpa's POV. Spoiler An image in a signature behind a hidden tag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 I don't think a tulpa can truly die in a dream, not anymore than you can die in a dream. I could imagine getting the body damaged, but in the worst case scenario, it would just end up as a formless voice. Might be worth experimenting with, but I don't think people really want to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 In the first test, why exactly does it have to be a knife? Could it be something that doesn't hurt so much, and that won't make them bleed? You can tulpaforce a marker in order to see if tulpaforced objects can interact, and you can tulpaforce a pillow and whack them with it or something to test for pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G|d30n May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 You could tulpaforce one of those tiny rubber mallets that doctors use to test nervous reflexes. Those don't hurt at all. Since it's my first day creating a tulpa and haven't even moved onto form or anything like that, I'm by no means an expert, but just based on my understanding of the process as detailed in the guides and by others' testimonials, I'd be a little surprised to find that tulpae have nervous systems. I mean, the form is for our benefit, more an avatar than their actual body, right? Progess on my tulpa, Lauren. Lauren's survey and stylometric test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulpatalk May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 You could tulpaforce one of those tiny rubber mallets that doctors use to test nervous reflexes. Those don't hurt at all. Since it's my first day creating a tulpa and haven't even moved onto form or anything like that, I'm by no means an expert, but just based on my understanding of the process as detailed in the guides and by others' testimonials, I'd be a little surprised to find that tulpae have nervous systems. I mean, the form is for our benefit, more an avatar than their actual body, right? I've seen what the form is said as a servitor to be controlled by the tulpa (which is by this theory technicallyy a disembodied consciousness) [Note: Opinions] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G|d30n May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 I've seen what the form is said as a servitor to be controlled by the tulpa (which is by this theory technicallyy a disembodied consciousness) If that's the case, then hurting the body shouldn't actually hurt the tulpa consciousness, right? Or am I misunderstanding? Progess on my tulpa, Lauren. Lauren's survey and stylometric test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulpatalk May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 If that's the case, then hurting the body shouldn't actually hurt the tulpa consciousness, right? Or am I misunderstanding? Note: theories Since tulpas are all sutosuggestion (or some other psychology word), the creator may associate the form as being like the body of the tulpa, so if the body is vanquished, the mind-tulpa goes too. Hooray for pseudoscience and too little data to make reliable conjectures! [Note: Opinions] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 If that's the case, then hurting the body shouldn't actually hurt the tulpa consciousness, right? Or am I misunderstanding? They do seem to sense through their bodies and they don't just switch/morph bodies that easily. I don't actually know of any elaborate shapeshifter tulpae yet, although they seem very plausible. Bodily sensations and self-modifiability seems like a far more interesting topic to research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppip May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 Since it's my first day creating a tulpa and haven't even moved onto form or anything like that, I'm by no means an expert, but just based on my understanding of the process as detailed in the guides and by others' testimonials, I'd be a little surprised to find that tulpae have nervous systems. I mean, the form is for our benefit, more an avatar than their actual body, right? Tulpas in themselves are just an extension of our own brain's great ability at "filling in the blanks" and making assumptions. Since normal people get hurt and have nervous systems, our brain assumes this new "person" (the tulpa) has one too. Kinda like . my chalupa's bio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte May 24, 2012 Share May 24, 2012 Tulpas in themselves are just an extension of our own brain's great ability at "filling in the blanks" and making assumptions. Since normal people get hurt and have nervous systems, our brain assumes this new "person" (the tulpa) has one too. Kinda like . I didn't notice the inverted face until the second time I watched the video and actually tried to see it Am I broken? This hot empty painting should be locked and towed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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