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Tulpa Piggybacking My Senses


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My tulpa is still relatively young, and in the developmental stage. Her identity is at the point where it's a noticeable presence, with a little vocality. Not to the independent, autonomous state yet.

 

That being said, I've noticed that we aren't separated yet, and she keeps piggybacking off my senses. Like the emotions from Inside Out, she will see and hear what I do. Sometimes I don't want this, though, and I don't know how to cut her off from them. She behaves much like a child still, and so just asking seems to be a crap shoot. Sometimes she listens but more often she stays tuned in out of curiosity.

 

Is there any suggestions on limiting my tulpa's access to my senses? Or a technique to help with separating our minds more?

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

-Arthur Conan Doyle

 

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Maybe practice having her feel things herself? If the alternative to feeling what you feel is feeling nothing at all, that might as well be anti-progress. Give her experiences that help train her ability to feel and think things herself. Even if they're similar feelings to yours, the goal is to make it apply to her, not you. I suppose wonderland-type stuff would work here, and also perhaps meta discussion of her herself. It would probably spur some self-thought if you talked to her directly about her, right? But maybe not. So come up with some independence, or independent, exercises, in the form of {things} that apply to her but not you. What exactly depends on how you guys interact, if you have a wonderland and so on.

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For the "sharing senses" thing, what kind of stimulation are you giving her in the wonderland?

 

From the sound of it, your tulpa seems to default to being "at the front," which is the state of them being connected to the outerworld through your senses like that. Overall, being able to be at the front isn't a bad thing in itself (though I can see why you'd want to keep a young tulpa away from some of the nastier real-world stuff). The front is where I am now, to let me communicate with the outside world. I'm at the front a lot, because, honestly, what happens at the front is pretty dang interesting.

 

That's the problem with a wonderland. Everything there is pretty much under your system's control, so things can get a little predictable if you don't take care to keep it interesting. The outside world, meanwhile, is unpredictable and alien, so it's by far a more likely place to learn things about the universe, life, and everything (42 obviously among them ;) )

 

So, if you don't want her at the front all the time, you could try giving her something stimulating to do in the wonderland instead. Games maybe, or some sort of project. A pet servitor to take care of. Really, it's up to your imagination and style.

 

Though your tulpa might not be up for something so complex yet. Sounds like she's like a sponge right now, just trying to soak up all the knowledge she can. Tewi makes a good point about helping to separate her out by giving her her own experiences in the wonderland. Once she has her own, she may be better able to divorce from yours. It might also help her connect herself more to the wonderland than to the front, which will help her dissociate from your senses.

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Use symbolism.

The thing with symbolism is that it can be purely symbolical without actually having anything of the sort in your actual wonderland/mindscape. The oldest technique is lying down, sitting down comfortably, and empty your thoughts. I mean, really try to empty your mind of all negative thoughts, or exciting thoughts that would interfere with your concentration. Imagine a door with a lock. This door is representative of what you wish for Isa not to access; the door being locked signifies that it may only be accessed with the key - a key you are. Your consent represents that key, and as long as you do not give it, it acts as an inhibitor for that type of.... actions, I suppose. People used that, with success, to bar their tulpas from accessing regions such as their subconscious thoughts, lustful thoughts, and some even feared losing their capacities to learn and reason due to paranoia, so symbolism worked quite well for them.

 

Symbolism is nice because you do not have to be imaginative, you can imagine one door locked and one door unlocked, the latter is the door that Isa CAN access and gain certain type of information. I'm advising this because I know that you're not super imaginative (you said you were more logical and rational in one of your posts), it's also very easy. There will be no real door aside from symbolism. That's how you impose limits. The door is a concept.

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Thank you for the feedback everyone.

 

@Tewi

Feelings are actually less of a problem. Isa has enough of her own personality, and I've been approaching things slowly to give her time to develop her own opinions and feelings.

 

@Temar

Wonderland is one of those areas I may have gotten carried away on. It's expansive, with many different landscapes and regions. I also try to give her influence to add things herself too.

I've thought about wildlife to an extent. Though haven't put effort into making any since I'm giving Isa my primary focus.

A sponge is exactly what she is right now. Giving her wonderland experiences has bee tough for me since I can only be in the mind world or the outside one. I look like a zombie when I go inward to force. :P

 

@Iscariot

I am of the logical/rational persuasion, but that tends to override my emotional mind instead of my imagination. I'd be a pretty poor artist without creativity. ;3

I like the idea of the door symbolism. I get how to apply it in visualization and active forcing, how would it work in the passive day to day though. It seems like as soon as I have to come back to the physical world Isa would say "that was interesting. Now what's going on out here?" And go back to watching through my eyes. :P

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

-Arthur Conan Doyle

 

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Oh, alright. Missed that in my non-elaborate reasoning, my apologies.

 

Well, I always advise people to do it once in an active-forcing/visualization session, why once, you may ask; it's because once you create this concept in your mind, you won't just forget about it. It's a concept, there's no actual door as you know it, but it means, to both Isa and other parts of your mind 'this is a part of my mind I wish not to open up to any other entity but me'. You're not going to have to repeat that over and over time, as long as you understand and you make sure to tell Isa about it (you could visualize Isa's form next to you while visualizing this door, and I recommend narrating how this door functions and why she cannot unlock it by her own). The way the human brain functions, at least how I see it, it's very much like learning something like math or physics, something you won't just forget; as long as it makes sense to your mind, as long as you put that concept in place during an active-forcing session, it should be good.

A wise man once said: 'Before judging a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? He's a mile away, and you've got new shoes.'

 

Graced are those who could avoid this phenomenon. This is perhaps the worst expression of evil in humanity's history, but who am I to judge?

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No need to apologize, it's a small detail, qnd your earnest well meaning and giving thought to how I might think made me smile. ^^

 

I see the line of thinking behind all of that. I'll give it a try, I don't expect a miracle fix, but your suggestion sounds like a good tool. :3

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

-Arthur Conan Doyle

 

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