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Tulpae and mental problems.


Angus and Alexis

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Im probably going to get some hatemail or something from this.

 

But i am pondering.

 

I have stalked these forums for a while and noticed a fair amount of tulpamancers have mental problems, OCD, ADHD, autism, asburgers syndrome, etc.

 

I myself am free from such disorders, but am confused as to why i see so many with such disorders here.

 

(No offense to anyone, merely am interested, and yes, this is a serious question.)

 

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As short as I've been here, I am convinced that the majority of this group is mature enough not to send you hatemail on you observation.

 

But to answer you question, I do believe that any forum you visit, despite the main topic/focus/subject, anyone could have any mental illness.

 

I believe it to be either coincidence (based on your observation. I have yet to notice this myself.), or just that more people are vocal about it here than other forums.

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Yeah, basically what spartanelete said. It's a pretty normal spread for 'this part of the internet', as it were. I suppose people mention it more here because this is a forum for discussing aspects of mentality, so it's more often called-for.

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Maybe it's just that the concept of tulpa and people trying to build rapport with tulpa(e) in general makes this forum a port of call for these people with mental illnesses. Because when we're all making our own ways of theorizing existence in terms of tulpa and ourselves (sentience, sapience and other terminology), combined with the forum's aim to have some secularism in its approach towards this phenomenon (the "for science" you see implanted on the site), it's like a melting pot with all sorts of personal existential and humanistic elements.

 

Some of these discussions users have with mental problems can be psychosomatic complaints or actual illnesses/disorders. But even with that, with the experiential truths (anecdotal evidence) that seems to be growing with people that actually do meet the criterion of Schizophrenia, MPD/DID, and other psychological and mental conditions are somehow able to go through the tulpa phenomenon to help deal with those conflicts they have. They still have some type of rapport with themselves in terms of self-love (in its myriad of approaches) or inward focus in human exploration of the mind and what it's capable of producing.

 

The more I see people here in general, and the more I see them trying to go about with the tulpa experience, the more it sets more questions on how this has potential in understanding the human mind in general in its resourcefulness to build rapport despite of overwhelming and dire situations with reality. So you don't really have to worry too much when talking about mental conditions, because even with the collective totality from this forum and other mediums of gregarious interaction, when it comes to gathering insight from others, we do have to swallow our pride with our own weaknesses and insecurities with mental conditions for the betterment of gaining knowledge into this.

 

And because of this melting pot of all sorts of conditions, belief systems, etc., higher levels of empathy almost seems necessary to practice to prevent one from overwhelmed. Because most of the time the problem with this forum is just preventing ad nauseam so people can actually make methods/processes/mentalities that can actually produce results for as many people as possible.

 

It just portrays how people tend to gravitate in inward thinking that their questions are revolutionary when there's billions of people in this world, and out of those billions, there's going to be people with similar questions/beliefs/etc. That's always a challenge in any forum that tends to be secular for the sake of Science and a bit more empathetic towards people of certain mental conditions. But when it can be moderated decently and competently enough, we can push people's potentials into this and keep growing the collective totality of knowledge instead of seeing stagnant and lukewarm progress.

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As a second question.

 

Why are so many people here afraid of telling their relatives about their tulpa?

 

I have told virtually every person i know and did not care about any outcome that could come from it.

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@Angus and Alexis,

 

I don't know how old you are, but you're pretty lucky to have people who don't really seem to mind you having one. The reason people would be afraid of stating that to their relatives is because with how people see cases with Schizophrenics, MPD/DID, or any psychological ailments that involves more than one identity, people will have a skewed model of reality with the concept of tulpa. They might have an exaggerated idea that if their own child or relative is going to have a tulpa in their life, depending on their age, there's varying ways of how they'll react to them.

 

I guess when it's with familial roots, they may not really be open and honest with you when you told them, so they might talk about it with any opinions they have when you're not there with them. Not trying to instill any worries on your end, but that is probable, but it's most likely they'll just forget about it and carry on with their lives. But there have been some people, one I knew on another forum, that got tremendous backlash from their relatives knowing they have a tulpa when they explained it to them. Some have gone through therapy, and that's mostly through the parent's exponential worrying over things with wanting their child to be "sane," and all sorts of societal expectations that could be damaged if the family's friends and peers knew their child had a thought-form (when they only get a fraction of the meaning of a tulpa).

 

It may not be such a big deal for you and your family members, but people easily will go Salem Witch Trials on a person, and with religion or any belief system for that matter and how there's some people (but not all) that would say all sorts of negative things in relation to tulpa. And to be honest, unless this tulpa phenomenon has a decent amount of safety nets with Scientific grounds, there's really not much pleasure in spewing to anyone that hasn't been educated with the concept that one has a tulpa or several tulpa.

 

I'd prefer keeping my experience with mine to save whatever possibility that might come with it. Although my own parents are pretty care-free with me talking about some lucid dreams I felt I could tell them about, tulpa would just be more concerning. And for me personally, I prefer sustaining familial roots instead of potential ostracism. I rather enjoy the privacy of what goes on in my mind and my perception of reality.

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One of the reasons I created jan to keep the asps in check.

 

Oh, BTW, I wouldn't say that asperger's is a mental disorder; I'd say "condition" is a better suited word.

It's that guy again!

 

 

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Thank you for the answers i was seeking.

 

One more question, quite a few people here say that their family is religious and hence dislike tulpae, where does this link come from?

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Thank you for the answers i was seeking.

 

One more question, quite a few people here say that their family is religious and hence dislike tulpae, where does this link come from?

I'd guess they'd think of it as a demon trying to possess your mind or body or something like that.

 

>Assuming the religion believes in demons.

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One more question, quite a few people here say that their family is religious and hence dislike tulpae, where does this link come from?

 

There are a couple of things that many religious people strongly dislike and oppose that are completely harmless, like Harry Potter movies and books, so imagine what that kind of people would think about something like a tulpa, especially if the subject is approached the wrong way.

Obviously not all, not even most christians/jews/etc. are like that, but if you consider that your family might label you as demon possesed or a devil worshiper it's just not worth the risk.

Also apart from the natural impulse to tell people about it there aren't many other reasons to do that (except maybe giving your tulpa somebody to talk to other than you if they accept the idea).

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