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Hello, I've recently heard about "Tulpa" and I had a question..

What if you visualized your tulpa and you're taking a picture with a camera. How would this turn out? Would you be able to see it? Would others be able to see it?

Thanks in advance, I consider on following one of the guides.
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I can tell you right now that others wouldn't be able to see it in the picture; someone is going to have to test if you'll see in the developed pictures.
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No and Fuck No
It's just a hallucination, more or less just for your entertainment. I don't think you could see it in a photo unless maybe the tulpa was actively projecting itself into it, which I don't think is a thing they bother doing. And of course no one else could see it in the photo, what made you think it was even remotely possible?
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Thanks for your response, I shall do some research on this by reading the guides etc. Again, thank you.


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What made me think why it would? I don't know, it's already possible to create something imaginairy, why not being able to get it captured on a picture.

So many things in this world that aren't figured yet, so yeah, why not. The possiblity could be there.
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The thing is it's a hallucination, it's impossible to be projected in the real world in any possible manner because it's all in your head, your eyes aren't receiving any feedback from the tulpa, but your brain insists it is anyway. There's no real, physical projecting happening, so no equipment even in science fiction could capture it. You'd have to have access to the brain itself.
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Ok, it was just a question.. thanks for answering though.
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No problem. Welcome to the forums!
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(05-08-2012, 11:05 PM)Nejar date Wrote:Thanks for your response, I shall do some research on this by reading the guides etc. Again, thank you.


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What made me think why it would? I don't know, it's already possible to create something imaginairy, why not being able to get it captured on a picture.

So many things in this world that aren't figured yet, so  yeah, why not. The possiblity could be there.
It isn't possible to create anything, nor destroy anything - the law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed, only transformed. Of course here we're defining energy in the formal sense, that is, in physics, the physical capacity to do work. In psychology this concept can be somewhat transmuted as the perceived mental capacity to do work, and thus subconscious perceptions can be destroyed and projected under this hypothesis out of 'nothing', because we're not dealing with matter, we're dealing with ideas, which are formations of the mind. Nothing is being molecularly created or destroyed, you only think that it is. You're tricking your own brain essentially.

Okay now with that out of the way; other people can definitely not see you tulpa under our current hypothesis yes, without technological aids, such as neurological brain scanners, computers, ect. Now, Tulpae do have access, we hypothesize, from deductions based on several different testimonies, to memories of their individual host. Ie. because it's from your subconscious it can access memories. Yeah, we don't know how it works either.

Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that your memory of when the photo was taken, as perceived by your consciousness, will be assumed by Tulpa and therefore it can, whether it's automated or choice-based, project a visualization onto it? If true for photos, what of movies? If movies, what of sounds; music (if a recording was taken and the Tulpa was speaking at the time to you)? If all of these things, then why not memories in general?

Using neurological scanners there's potential to prove or disprove all of these things, but until then we're stuck in hypothesis land, and continue building our hypothesis on other hypotheses, ect. ect., all of which were founded on shaky ground.


TL;DR: I personally think situation ii is possible.
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In the early days of the IRC Irish said that he took a picture of Alice and could see her in it, he traced her and what not. We could not see her in the picture, though.

I've found that after taking a picture (after Irish brought it up I tested it) I would see my tulpa in it when I concentrated, but after a few days not even with the hardest concentration was this possible.
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