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Easy guide on how to hear your tulpa

This is how I first heard my tulpa's thoughts. It's a simple method that I find really useful.

Before we begin (Host) :

- You must believe in tulpamancy, in your tulpa's existence and in their ability to think to themselves.
- Your tulpa is never too young to communicate unless you think they are.
- Read this post to your tulpa or explain it to them using words which you know they understand. Basically let them know what you're going to do.
- Tell your tulpa to always use your name when talking to you, even if it feels repetitive.
- Ask your tulpa to talk to you during this exercise, as well as whenever they can, randomly.

Before we begin (Tulpa) :

- During this exercise, talk to your host by thinking to yourself instead of trying other ways such as using your body to make any sounds (you don't need a body if you don't have one but I recommend it)
- You and your host share a physical brain. In the same way that you can hear your host's thoughts, they can hear yours. You can't do it "wrong" so don't get discouraged!

The actual exercise (Tulpa) :

- For the whole length of the exercise, simply repeat your host's name and add short, encouraging sentences in between (such as "I love you" or "You can do it!")

The actual exercise (Host) :

- First of all, get yourself ready. Prepare yourself physically. Be as comfortable as you can without falling asleep. Make sure there will be no disturbances and it's as quiet as possible around you.
- Prepare yourself mentally. You're about to do a tricky exercise to get to hear your tulpa, but it can be very exhausting. Remember to always tell your tulpa that you're going to listen for them!
- Here we go. I'm sure your mind is filled with racing thoughts right now. Just block them all. No matter what they say, BLOCK.
- This is the exhausting part, you have to keep on blocking thoughts nonstop until your mind is absolutely clear. Don't give up unless you need to rest. It's fine. With some practice, you'll be able to complete this step in no time! Did it on your first try? Congratulations, keep going.
- Now that your mind is absolutely clear, RELEASE. Stop blocking and try not to think of any words, but most importantly, don't block a single thought. It is recommended that your tulpa has a form and that you visualize it in your head now.
- Be patient for a little, this is very tricky, you have to listen for your tulpa without blocking anything, if any thought popped into your mind out of nowhere THAT WAS YOUR TULPA. Yes it'll "sound" or feel like you, but you made no actual effort to think it. Hence it's not you.
- If no thought pops out of nowhere after a little and your mind is racing again, stop visualization and go back to blocking. You might have to repeat it. Simply try again, block, release and listen, block, release and listen.

How it works:

We're so used to hearing our own thoughts and classifying any thoughts in our own heads as "ours". Adittionally, our minds are usually racing with unwanted thoughts. This means that normally, first our tulpa's thoughts have to be strong enough to overpower every other, and then we have to realize that we're not the ones thinking that. The former is achieved with forcing, the later usually requires countless tries from our tulpa until we realize and get in the right mindset. While I don't encourage being a lazy host and obviously not parrotnoia, this method is intended for those especially. This exercise skips a lot of the forcing necessary to be able to hear our tulpa, allowing us to hear much weaker thoughts from them. Also, by emptying our minds, we're making it easier for ourselves to differentiate whose thought is each of them, since we have less thoughts to classify at a time. We're trying our best not to actively think of anything but the image of our tulpa, distracting us away from thinking any words which could make us be mistaken about who thought this and who thought that, while still actively listening for them.

TL, DR: Block all thoughts until mind is clear, then stop blocking completely and listen for tulpa. Repeat as necessary.
02-18-2019, 07:25 PM
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RE: Easy guide on how to hear your tulpa

Quote:- Tell your tulpa to always use your name when talking to you, even if it feels repetitive.
- Ask your tulpa to talk to you during this exercise, as well as whenever they can, randomly.

It seems like these should go in the "before we begin (tulpa)" section.

Most people will have a lot of trouble just outright blocking their thoughts. Brute forcing your thoughts away is often counterproductive in fact, like telling someone to not think of pink elephants. Maybe it would be better to tell people to simply not interact with any thoughts and to not actively think them, since that is pretty much how it works for open monitoring meditation (though it's still pretty difficult to clear your thoughts with that, it is a lot easier).
Really though, I don't see how blocking your thoughts would be helpful to hearing your tulpa since once you're done blocking your thoughts then intrusive thoughts will start popping up too. You should add a way to tell whether the response is your tulpa or an intrusive thought. Also, has anyone other than you tried this and had it actually work?

I have a tulpa named Miela (formerly known as Monika) who I love very much.


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RE: Easy guide on how to hear your tulpa

I feel this comes close to a lot of good things but doesn't quite hit the mark. Just enough that I couldn't approve it yet.

First off, I think you should re-purpose your "How it works" section into a proper introduction. Try to trim out unnecessary repetition and just unneeded sections of it too, make it cleaner and more succinct. These are minor suggestions, won't stop your approval, but they're little things that will push this from "approved" to something that people might share.

Now, to get more specific, you don't really instruct someone how to "block" their thoughts. You also don't really give a good explanation of what they're doing. I suppose the message is obvious, you want all thought to stop and for the participant to relax. Perhaps you should word it as "clearing out your mind." Essentially you've written a meditation guide as a basis to listen for your tulpa.

Additionally, I don't think the issue you're addressing is weak thoughts. Thoughts can't really be stronger than one or another. Neurons are either firing or they're not. I think the issue is that tulpas are not as used to thinking. There's also an issue of hosts being able to be patient and listen for their tulpa, which this guide directly addresses by telling them to stop thinking and let responses happen and trust it is their tulpa.

I feel I meandered a bit. If anything is confusing, ask me to clarify. For now I'll say this will be suited for Tips and Tricks once approved.

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RE: Easy guide on how to hear your tulpa

Content review:
Quote:You must believe in tulpamancy, in your tulpa's existence and in their ability to think to themselves.
I think it's a given that you must believe in tulpamancy. This sentence should probably be reworded a bit to something like "Be sure to believe in your tulpa's ability to think and speak for his or herself."

Quote:Your tulpa is never too young to communicate unless you think they are.
This sentence is contradictory. Leave it at "Your tulpa is never too young to communicate." Might want to add "as long as they are sentient."

Quote:words which you know they understand.
Eh, I don't think it's good to imply that a tulpa won't understand words when you go on to say they share a brain. They'll understand anything the host understands.

Quote:Tell your tulpa to always use your name when talking to you, even if it feels repetitive.
Might want to add that this is to differentiate between the tulpa talking to you and you having your own thoughts. 

Quote:Ask your tulpa to talk to you during this exercise, as well as whenever they can, randomly.
Tons of tulpas, even fully-developed ones, can't randomly interrupt. Might want to reword this to "Ask your tulpa to talk to you whenever they can."

Quote:During this exercise, talk to your host by thinking to yourself
This is also kind of contradictory. Reword.

Quote:instead of trying other ways such as using your body to make any sounds (you don't need a body if you don't have one but I recommend it)
This doesn't make a lot of sense. If a tulpa is thinking then they're thinking, whether or not they're puppeting a form doesn't change that. Also, you might want to change "body" to "form" to save from confusion.

Quote:For the whole length of the exercise, simply repeat your host's name and add short, encouraging sentences in between (such as "I love you" or "You can do it!")
I don't quite get the point of doing this as opposed to just talking about whatever they want to. Elaborate a bit?

Quote:but it can be very exhausting.
I feel telling them that it'll be exhausting will only increase the chances that it's exhausting. In reality it probably won't be.

Quote:Just block them all. No matter what they say, BLOCK.
Can you elaborate on what this means, exactly? How does one "block" a thought? Best not to use vague terms within a guide, be as straightforward and understandable as possible.

Quote:It is recommended that your tulpa has a form and that you visualize it in your head now.
Why? It's good to explain things in guides so that people know the purpose behind the instructions you give them.

Quote:first our tulpa's thoughts have to be strong enough to overpower every other,
Not really. Usually the problem is the host thinking that the tulpa's thoughts are parroting, not that the tulpa isn't thinking strong enough thoughts. This doesn't really address how to increase the sense of strength in a tulpa's thoughts anyway, especially since you only said for them to say the host's name and little lines of encouragement. I don't see that as being entirely helpful in strengthening their thoughts. You might want to add more to the tulpa part of this exercise, specifically how to increase their sense of mental strength. A good way to do this would be to have the tulpa start thinking/monologuing about something that interests them.

Quote:this method is intended for those especially.
I don't especially see this method as helping to stop parrotnoia. 

Quote:This exercise skips a lot of the forcing necessary to be able to hear our tulpa, allowing us to hear much weaker thoughts from them.
Saying "our tulpa" kind of makes it sound like this is a shared tulpa or something, lol. 
I don't really agree with the issue of tulpa communication being that the host can't "hear" them, or that they need to "listen" for them. If a tulpa is thinking, the host will be able to hear them just fine. Most of the time, the issue either is a) the host has too much mental control that they aren't allowing the tulpa room to think on their own, or b) the host dismissed the tulpa's thoughts as parroting. This doesn't seem to entirely help those two issues. There's too much emphasis on "blocking" thoughts and then "listening" for the tulpa, no emphasis on actually surrendering one's own control to the tulpa for them to have the opportunity to think, and there's not a lot of emphasis on accepting the tulpa's thoughts as their own.

Quote:Also, by emptying our minds, we're making it easier for ourselves to differentiate whose thought is each of them, since we have less thoughts to classify at a time.
I don't particularly see that as making it easier. Like I said, emptying one's mind isn't really the problem, it's usually the fact that the host has such a grip on the mind that the tulpa doesn't have a lot of room to think.

Quote:We're trying our best not to actively think of anything but the image of our tulpa, distracting us away from thinking any words which could make us be mistaken about who thought this and who thought that, while still actively listening for them.
This further shows that the host will continue to have a grip on the mind if they're focusing on visualizing and listening.

Grammar review:

Quote:You must believe in tulpamancy, in your tulpa's existence and in their ability to think to themselves.
Add comma after "existence"

Quote:Read this post to your tulpa or explain it to them using words which you know they understand.
add a comma after "your tulpa," change "which" to "that"

Quote:Basically let them know what you're going to do.
Add comma after "Basically"

Quote:During [...] any sounds
This is a bit of a run-on sentence.

Quote:You can't do it "wrong" so don't get discouraged!
Add comma after wrong ("wrong," so)

Quote:THAT WAS YOUR TULPA.
The caps is a little obnoxious.

Quote:Yes it'll "sound" or feel like you, but you made no actual effort to think it. Hence it's not you.
Add comma after "Yes," "Hence" should probably "Therefore,"

Quote:If no thought pops out of nowhere after a little [while] and your mind is racing again, stop visualization and go back to blocking.
Add "while," change "visualization" to "visualizing,"

Quote:Adittionally,
Spelling

I think the entire last paragraph could use a rewrite, the wording is kinda awkward.

"later" -> "latter"

"TL, DR" -> "TL;DR"


Summary:
This doesn't seem to be all that "easy" of an exercise to me, nor does it really seem to address the actual issues people tend to face when learning to let their tulpa talk. I don't particularly see this as being that helpful for the goal that's being attempted, and seems like there's a chance it'd bring more frustration than necessary. For these reasons, it's not approvable in its current state, in my opinion.

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