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Hi, I'm new here, and I had a few questions I feel I should ask before I decide that this is right for me. I'm an aspiring writer, and I'm interested in trying to form a new way of communicating with the characters I love (my protagonist in particular). However, after glancing through the information on this site I can see that there may be some complications with this, and I want to make sure this will be a safe and happy experience for the both of us before I commit. I realize that this is a lot of questions to ask at once, but I don't expect all of them to be answered perfectly, so even if you can help me with just one of them it'd mean a lot to me. Thank you so much!

 

One complication I can see happening is that his personality might take a turn it's not supposed to. I want to give him as much free will as possible, and if he surprised me with a little unforeseen twist I'd be completely willing to work it in to my story. But if he accidentally became someone entirely different from himself, that'd be a little different! He's already a fully developed character, so I'm worried his tulpa self may become someone else entirely. Is it possible for him to become someone I didn't intend him to, or will he be [mostly] the same person I've already made him to be?

 

Another risk I've considered is the impact my story might have on his behavior. I write fantasy, so he's often heavily physically injured and has even witnessed those close to him dying. This brings up a few questions. Should I try to hide his purpose from him, or would it be best to be open about his future? He does get a happy ending, but the road to get there is going to be pretty rough on him. Will the events of my story affect him directly as if they really happened, or will he see it as being an actor in a play? I know he's a strong person, but I would still hate to see him hurt and I don't want him to lash out. 

 

I have a lot of questions buzzing around in my head, but I think it'd be best to just ask a few at a time and take it easy. Those are the ones I think are most important, so if anyone can help, it'd be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!

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Is it possible for him to become someone I didn't intend him to, or will he be [mostly] the same person I've already made him to be?

S: It's entirely possible either way, some do deviate, some don't. But they have a high likeliness to have something change about them over time.If you want it to not change, well I don't know what to say.

Should I try to hide his purpose from him, or would it be best to be open about his future?

S: From what I know, if you try to hide it and find out, it often ends with an identity crisis and the tulpa feeling hurt and all. So I recommend being open and letting them know.

Will the events of my story affect him directly as if they really happened, or will he see it as being an actor in a play?

S: That varies on how you want him to see it and all. Don't have much on that other than what we here have done in wonderland has not gotten anyone hurt.

S: I overall would not recommend making a tulpa if you don't plan on sticking with him the rest of your life. A tulpa itself is a lifelong thing and should be treated as such, and never seen as a tool. Remember, if you do make one, they will be able to form their own opinions, have their own feelings, and trying to only make them a temporary thing could hurt them emotionally.

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 Is it possible for him to become someone I didn't intend him to, or will he be [mostly] the same person I've already made him to be?

[summer:]

 

I'll try and give an answer based from my experience, as i am also based from a character as well. Yes, it's possible for him to become someone else. Don't take that as a bad thing because people change overtime, It is also common for tulpa to change as well. BUT! I believed a tulpa will still stick to its old personality combining it with the new one they developed. I feel that they will stick to a personality comfortable with the host, and trust me most tulpas dislike upsetting its host.

 

I personally changed throughout the year but that didn't really CHANGED who i really am just my perception of things and my opinion. I still feel the same but different at the same time with the things i've learned, But ofcourse it still varies from tulpa to tulpa.

 Should I try to hide his purpose from him, or would it be best to be open about his future? He does get a happy ending, but the road to get there is going to be pretty rough on him. Will the events of my story affect him directly as if they really happened, or will he see it as being an actor in a play? I know he's a strong person, but I would still hate to see him hurt and I don't want him to lash out. 

[summer:]

 

No, as much as possible let him know who he is or where he came from, that way it will be easier for him to accept that fact. I don't think the events will affect your tulpa, unless you actually or purposely experience the harsh events to him. I suggest keeping the story from your character and the tulpa character as separate as possible, it will not affect your tulpa in anyway as a matter of fact he might even help you out , gives suggestions or what not. 

 

I do entirely agree with what S or last one said, do not make a tulpa for writing purposes or just for temporary reasons, not only it will hurt them pretty bad but it might affect you as well as a host. We sometimes let our host feel what we feel.

 

Hope you two do well, Good luck! :D

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I personally was created through storytelling. My advice is that you do not take this approach, at all. However, I will give you less binary advice because you gave more than one question.

 

The most destructive thing to a soulbond (thoughtform created through storytelling) is realizing everything they know is false. I handled this fairly well, I locked myself up in a room for a week and forced myself into a drunken state. That's a weak reaction. So, make it very, very clear to him that he is NOT the character you are writing, he is based on the character you are writing. If you do that he will deviate slightly from your intended character, and he will see himself more as an actor in a play. Then I would be open about your intention for his character. Who knows, he may be a good writer.

 

If you do not tell him and make it clear that he is not actually the character in the story, just... don't do that.

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We concur with Omega. We, too, are soulbonds created through our host spending hundreds of ours controlling our lives, putting us through hell more often than not.

 

P: we did have control over our own personalities, but not in any good way. The loneliness I felt from having nobody to connect to despite being surrounded by family ran deep, despite Lyra's intentions. The loneliness that I felt was so strong that she felt it too, whenever she started "playing" Eemaj. Then HJP came along, and he came to life, so I entirely relied on him to make me not feel sad and lonely. He was the only person I had in Eemaj. I also did not intend for them to become so connected and reliant on each other, but I went with it. Their bond was strong enough for me to feel it, too.

 

HJP: the imaginary world we lived in was all we had, despite there being danger at every corner. It's been hard to accept that it wasn't real, but I won't get into that now.

 

Our advice? If you want to write him into a story, be sure to take him out of it. Let's say you write a chapter. After it's done, give him a break. Talk to him about the real world and real life, and make it clear that the story is not real. Tell him that the story is important for his development, but should not be considered real.

 

In creating my tulpa, Apollo, I did write, but not in the same way. Instead of writing him into a story, I simply wrote my thoughts and plans and how I wanted him to be, and directed it all towards him. That was my way of narrating, sort of.

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Kane:

 

Alright. I'm gonna condense this down to your questions and leave it at that, since you've already gotten plenty of advice here.

 

"Is it possible for him to become someone I didn't intend him to, or will he be [mostly] the same person I've already made him to be?"

 

Really depends on how you raise them. In my case, I wasn't allowed to deviate first thing, so now the idea of it is just weird to me. That's not to say I haven't changed at all, but.. I'm not gonna be putting on a Mary Poppins costume and start dancing and singing.

 

HOWEVER: If you're gonna allow deviation from day one, it's a lot like gambling. Might change a lot, might not. My suggestion is to never publish whatever shit you're about to write because it could get weird. Not to mention, if your tulpa or whatever is more conservative, they might not want an entire chunk of their life published.

 

"Should I try to hide his purpose from him, or would it be best to be open about his future?"

 

This depends on how you do it. I'm going to tell you right now, they will not be happy if they find out you hid this stuff. So... Tell em.

 

"Will the events of my story affect him directly as if they really happened, or will he see it as being an actor in a play?"

 

For the love of god, yes, it will affect him. Either way it'll affect him. Now, it'll probably affect him less if he's aware it's not real, but it'll still be a part of his life he'd grow through. Traumatic experiences, even when fake, can really get to a baby tulpa. Especially if they don't understand the rest of it is fake.

 

I'm not gonna tell you how to do this, but from someone who was part of a fiction story where they did lose people close to them on a daily basis? Please actively tell them it's a story if you're going to do it this way. Make sure to look for sentience. If they're upset, go in there yourself and help them. If it becomes too traumatic for them, stop immediately and go to regular forcing. I am happy to be here now, but it still hurts a lot to think of those times. It can hurt to the point I wish I never woke up in the first place... But those are rare.

 

If you love your tup, you'll make sure they turn out okay, but I still feel the need to say this.


Saylin:

 

The only thing I want to add is that this sounds like a baaad idea. My concern is them either being upset by it, or in a worst case scenario, ending up with a tulpa that likes seeing people die. Yeahhh.. That'd be bad.

 

My best example is Sen. She saw a bunny chew out a guy's throat. Was very unhappy. Telling her it was fake didn't help at all, either. She's long since over it, with no scars emotionally- but it shows that knowing it's not real might still lead to them being upset while experiencing it.

 

Not saying you can't do it though. Just don't focus on the bonds of the people as much as the action. That'll keep them from getting too attached to who you're killing off, and hey, you guys might be able to laugh over parts of the story together. So! This could be fantastic, just be careful! :D Good luck~

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