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Visualization Boot Camp!

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Orde, in 1997, showed that drawing ability was linked with visualization ability. (pdf) Kaufman talks about how any skill can be learned in 20 hours, but takes 10,000 hours to master

So, if people who suck at drawing were to spend 20 hours learning to draw, how much would their visualization improve?

 

This is an experiment for people who aren't good at drawing. Those of you who are good at drawing aren't going to get as much out of it. Kaufman uses this graph to illustrate how significant improvement can be shown in the first 20 hours, but improvement slows more and more after that period. So those of you who have already put 5,000 hours into drawing are still improving, but you're not going to see much improvement in the span of 20 hours.

 

So here's how you do it:

1. Take the VVIQ or the VVIQ2 (I'll try to get a better link soon) to establish how good you are at visualizing right now. Neither of those links will score you, so you have to score yourself. I usually score myself 0 for no image, 1 for vague and dim, and so on up to 4 for perfectly clear. I scored 34 points on the VVIQ2 this morning.

2. Gather as many reference images for your tulpa as you can in a single directory on your computer. I'm using 560 images, but there are duplicates.

3. Make the most awesome music playlist you can imagine. Ideally both good and long. I forgot this step.

4. Gather as many sheets of paper and Sharpies (or knockoff permanent markers) as you can.

5. Set aside a few hours where you won't be disturbed.

6. Sit down and start your music playlist.

7. Start a slideshow of your image directory. Set it to display each image for 30 seconds.

8. Draw each image as it appears on the screen. Immediately move on to the next image when it appears. One image per sheet of paper -- your paper is your time clock, so when you're done drawing for the day, you can count the papers (564 for me today) divide it in half, and you have how many minutes you've done. (282 for me. That's 4.7 hours.) If you still have blank space on a paper and you want to use it, use it the next day so it won't mess up your count.

9. When you're done, take the VVIQ or the VVIQ2 again. (I scored three points higher, but only on visualizing "a friend" -- Fenchurch.)

10. Post here to let us know how much you've done, how much you've improved, and share your drawings if you like.

11. Do it again the next day.

 

Your pictures will look like crap at first. Don't worry, they're supposed to. It's hard to do a good drawing in 30 seconds. But you will notice major improvement after a few hours.

 

I've attached my first and last drawing of the day so you can see how I did.

 

When I looked at that first drawing five hours after doing it, I had no idea what it was, so I'll explain it. It's a woman with her head cocked slightly to one side, her hair brushed to the left. She's wearing a short top, and we can see her arm.

 

I don't think you'll need an explanation for my 564th drawing. Obviously I'm still not good at drawing, but I'm a hell of a lot better than I was this morning. :)

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"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

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That's actually a great idea!

 

I have zero drawing or visualization skills so I hope to at least improve to the level of your first pic. Even that would be some serious progress and it sounds fun.

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Whoah.. That's really intense. 30 seconds? That sounds kinda like a waste of paper to me, I'd rather draw something all the way. But hey, we're absolutely terrible at both visualization and drawing! Lumi's a perfectionist who errs on the side of not doing something at all, so we have not much experience drawing. He drew just one picture of Tewi. But I mean, I like drawing and I think I'm good at it, for someone who can't draw y'know? So I can draw stuff if it's really that helpful for visualization. Doesn't normally come to mind as something to do for fun because we don't have any drawing supplies or programs, but I will find one. Maybe a game.

 

I no way have the patience to sit there and draw micropictures for more than a few minutes, and I'm probably the only one of us who will draw much in the first place, so.. I'll just say here if I make any progress OK? Two things though, one, we've done visualization surveys in the past and they just feel like they're compiling how many times we say "can't see anything/it's blurry" so I'm not doing that. We keep really good track of stuff like visualization/voice/thinking clarity with us (visualization has ups and downs over time) so I will notice a difference. And uh, two, I already used all my playing time the last week or so on games and Tewi needs the next week.. then we're going on vacation where we have to work on online summer classes anyway.. and we'll be back on like July 5th? Basically don't expect anything from us for a while lol

 

But I will spend the rest of the day drawing probably! I gotta find stuff to draw, and a program/site/game to do it with, but I'll figure out something.

 

Edit: help finding drawing games is impossible, google reddit and steam (with the exception of an awesome virtual reality game) got nothin'. There have to be tons of casual drawing games right?


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I have also looked for good drawing games and been unable to find any. You'd think there would be some, but I have no idea where they might be.

 

As for the 30 second thing, I like it because it doesn't give you time to criticize yourself. So the drawing's not perfect? So what? Half a minute more and you'll have something better. It's not like you spent three hours on it. It's not like you'll spend three hours more fixing it. It's all about moving forward.


"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

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Uh, three hours huh? Well I drew something in Paint.net, let's just say it took 2 hours and 59 minutes..

 

I didn't feel up to drawing a full person yet so I drew Arin's Grump head from Game Grumps, a youtube channel we like a lot. My Arin's head - Arin's Arin's head

 

I only used a mouse and the paintbrush tool (and eraser), no cheaty stuff. And I just drew it while looking at the original occasionally. Hopefully this still counts

, it took me 3 hours and 15 minutes

 


Hi I'm one of Lumi's tulpas! I like rain and dancing and dancing in the rain and if there's frogs there too that's bonus points.

All of my posts should be read at a hundred miles per hour because that's probably how they were written

Please talk to me https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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Huh. When you say "bootcamp", you weren't kidding. This is a serious project.

 

But this has a kind of structure and devotion I find pretty lacking in most tulpa-developing techniques. That's appealing to me. Our visualization and drawing skills are really weak, so this sounds like a nifty thing to do.

 

I've already happened to make a 9-hour playlist of awesome music I haven't listened to yet (don't ask why... short answer: drugs). Finding several hundred reference images sounds really tough though. How'd you approach compiling them all?


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I only used a mouse and the paintbrush tool (and eraser), no cheaty stuff. And I just drew it while looking at the original occasionally. Hopefully this still counts

, it took me 3 hours and 15 minutes

 

Hey, if it works for you, that's what matters. :)

 

Huh. When you say "bootcamp", you weren't kidding. This is a serious project.

 

But this has a kind of structure and devotion I find pretty lacking in most tulpa-developing techniques. That's appealing to me. Our visualization and drawing skills are really weak, so this sounds like a nifty thing to do.

 

That's about where I'm coming from. I've been here on tulpa.info (under other accounts) for nearly three years now, and I was researching tulpas for about a decade before that. I'd really like to make some progress, and if I can make leaps forward in just a few hours of hard work, that would be ideal.

 

Finding several hundred reference images sounds really tough though. How'd you approach compiling them all?

 

Usually I recommend going to Shutterstock and collecting images that look like your tulpa in some way. Like one model might have the right eyes, while another tulpa has the right nose. Then these images can be combined like this, or this.

 

In your instance (and Enny will hate me for this) the Pony Creator might be better. You can do a variety of poses, as long as they're all in profile, screenshot them, and save them somewhere. Or take screenshots from the show.


"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson

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In your instance (and Enny will hate me for this) the Pony Creator might be better. You can do a variety of poses, as long as they're all in profile, screenshot them, and save them somewhere. Or take screenshots from the show.

 

I haven't read the OP so this might not be totally pertinent, but in general, I'd recommend 3d models as references for ponies. I know it sounds weird, and can look weird, but I had much better success with them, and my own imaginings of 3d representations

 

This could absolutely suck, and still probably be better than Zoi's stuff for the purpose of tuppering. I remember looking at it a year or two back and thinking it looked cool, so it's probably still aight.


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