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Wonderland: Tips, Tricks, And Basics For Hosts


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(Pre-Forward: The glossary terms I use in here is based off of other sites, do bear in mind I am doing my best to work on getting terminology right. The tulpa.info glossary isn’t much help unfortunately. I will finish up V 1.0 once there is a definite and clear glossary for terminology, otherwise this guide may stay in 0.98 for a while, unless more grammar errors are found. Please read the glossary I have set for now before any confusion, but be aware it might not be all correct.)

 

Hello, I'm Kyle, host to 3 tulpas. Today I am going to go over some simple tricks and basics to help with wonderlanding, starting from the ground up.

 

Before I begin, I will quickly define what a wonderland is. Wonderland simply is an area of your mind, part of the imagination, where you and your tulpas can hang out and have fun away from the body. This can be done at anytime, and later on can be used as a place to go for switching purposes, although you can go into wonderland with no-one in control as well. When there is no-one in control, it should be similar to having an immersive daydream, or lucid dreaming almost.

 

You can also do this before having a tulpa and can actively force your tulpa in wonderland. Many tulpas may also consider wonderland like home, but this isn’t always the case. While it can be seen as a metaphysical place, like a separate reality, I will be mostly talking about the psychological side of it. Wonderland can be accessed anytime, and just purely looking into it is simple enough, although to really go deep, you may need plenty of time and practice.

 

 

[index]

 

1. Intro and basic visualization exercises

2. Shaping your wonderland

3. Expansion

4. Creating a tulpa in a wonderland

5. Tips for hosts and tulpas who are making a wonderland

6. Tips for hosts where the tulpa has a wonderland you have problems seeing

7. Switching using a wonderland as a tool, and some warnings

8. Other random but important notes and tidbits

9. Kyle’s quick glossary of terminology

10. Changelog

 

 

[intro and basic visualization exercises]

 

So, you want to create a wonderland, but don't know where to start. Let's take a moment first to check a few small exercises in visualization and other small sense-related exercises to work on your imagination itself. Start with imagining an apple with your eyes closed. What color is it? Pay attention to the details, the shape, how smooth it looks. Now try, without moving your arm or hand in real life, to imagine a hand grabbing the apple. Do your best to feel with that hand, feel the weight of the apple, the texture. Is the apple hard or soft?

 

Now, using your imaginary arm, bring the apple to your mouth and taste it. Is there a crunch to it or was it softer? Can you smell the apple, and taste the piece you bit out of it? Does it taste good? Make sure to imagine all the details, not just how it looks, but every sense possible.

 

I recommend doing small exercises like this often, whenever you can. It doesn't have to specifically be apples, but your main goal is to use your senses on something purely from your imagination. Whether it be eating an apple or throwing a tennis ball at an imaginary wall, hearing it thud against the wall and feeling it slap on your hand as you catch it. Alternatively, if you already have a tulpa, you can have them help in many ways as well. Maybe playing small games of catch, or eating together in the imagination. What you do is up to your imagination. Much of this can also be used for imposition later on, with the main difference being imagining with your eyes open and using the physical senses instead of imagined senses.

 

[shaping your wonderland]

 

Now that you have some basic visualization and senses down, let’s start to bring this onto the bigger stage, specifically, creating your wonderland. Now, I recommend starting small. Unless you have prior experience with a wonderland, dissociation, and immersive daydreams, your first time in isn't going to be perfect. Your second time may not be either. It takes a pretty decent amount of time and practice before going into any wonderland can seem like more than just using your imagination.

 

I recommend first getting somewhere comfortable and relaxed, where you have time and quietness, and closing your eyes for the first few times. Start small, like a room with a bed or couch. I recommend using a bed or couch you know well, and imagine it in a room with maybe a few small things. Take a bit of time using this room to do more exercises immersing yourself into your imagination. Make sure you are using your imagined form to feel and see, as your intent should be to disconnect from your physical senses. Your wonderland is not out in reality and thus you will not need your senses out in reality. You need to use your senses in your wonderland. After some time and patience you will find it easier to go into the wonderland and able to go deeply into it, and with constant practice you likely will have all of this down quickly.

 

[Expansion]

 

 

Once you have your room done and are able to go into your wonderland decently, the next step will be to expand on it. Make more rooms, a hallway, maybe even the whole house and beyond. Just make sure to keep up the practice as you do so. You will only get better with time and patience. While I do not have a good amount of time in mind of how much you should practice, I believe you can improve if you do this daily for more than 10 minutes actively, with no real time cap past pushing to your limit.

 

[Creating a tulpa in a wonderland]

 

This section is for those looking into creating a tulpa using their wonderland as a beginning place for forcing. Much of what I will say is based off my personal experience with it and may not be perfect. Many people actually start their tulpa in some way in their own wonderland, especially working on their form, even if they may abandon that wonderland later.

 

Mostly, have an idea of what you want from your tulpa. Imagine them with you in your wonderland, and mostly start by talking with them in your wonderland. You can make a form for them if you want. Explain what they are, what you would like from them, talk about whatever you please. Ask them a few questions and listen for responses back. At first you can parrot the responses, it does no harm to puppet or parrot a new tulpa. Just do your best to know that it won't always be a controlled response.

 

If you made a form, move it around and get a good look at it. Puppeting their form for a while will also help them gain footing to controlling themselves. Do something with them in the wonderland, like tennis or video-games. If they want to explore the wonderland, explore it with them. If they want to change something in the wonderland, let them. Go on from there and transfer what you find out into reality, moving on to hearing the tulpa outside and more complex visualization, like imposition. I suggest looking into other guides for further tulpa-building.

 

[Tips for hosts and tulpas who are making a wonderland]

 

 

This section is more for hosts who already have a tulpa but may not have made a wonderland. This may be a rarer occurrence but does still happen, and maybe you and your tulpa are curious on creating a wonderland. With all that I have said up above on immersing yourself into the wonderland, make sure your tulpa does so too. They may need to immerse into it as much as you, as some tulpas that were not born in a wonderland may not have as much experience going in and out of it. Make sure they work on these exercises as well. The only real other thing is that you two can use starting the wonderland as a bonding activity.

 

Offhand, expanding a wonderland in general can be used as a bonding experience for you and your tulpa, along with work on your mental capacity for visualization. Results may vary.

 

[Tips for hosts where the tulpa has a wonderland you have problems seeing]

 

If your tulpa does have a wonderland that you never visited, and you have problems with keeping a form in that wonderland, then try to have them imagine a form for you while you control the form. It should be like the tulpa is imposing you into their wonderland much like how many hosts impose their tulpa out in our reality. Ease into the form and immerse into it, gain control of it while your tulpa lets go of controlling it. Don't forget to do immersive exercises as well, being imposed into a wonderland doesn't guarantee that you will feel and see it as if it is real. I can’t guarantee this will work perfectly, but like with anything, it takes practice. After you and the tulpa do this for a while, you should work on making the form yourself without their aid.

Note that this is only a suggestion, your mileage may vary, and don’t forget to try other things if the above doesn’t work.

 

[switching using a wonderland as a tool, and some warnings]

 

So say you are working on switching, using the wonderland as a place to go if you don’t have imposition down and don’t want to lose time. I am first and foremost going to tell you to not FORCE your tulpa to do this, they should want to do this on their own right. In addition, I personally believe that you should not give control to your tulpa for prolonged periods of time, more than you, without them knowing all that they are going into. This does include everything. Your social life, your work/school, down to personal habits. They also should have a general good idea on possessing the body, and I recommend testing how they like life through possessing before doing any type of switching.

 

In addition to all this, the tulpa will have the responsibility you normally would of parallel processing and being mindful and open, keeping a part of the mind on you so you are aware and all, at least if you two don’t have parallel processing at a decent level. You also need to make sure you can think for yourself while switched, with the tulpa still being able to do whatever they want without being pulled back. If it becomes too much of a hassle for them and for you, go back and work on some of that yourself before trying to continue.

 

If you and the tulpa are all good with all of this, honestly it gets simple. Find a spot you can immerse into the wonderland, let the body slip from you, while your tulpa possesses your body. Again your first few times won’t be perfect, as you may be pulled to the body easily, but practice makes perfect. Do immersive exercises and keep occupied in the wonderland while your tulpa does other stuff, from chatting to whatever they want. Just remember, when you switch, it's not your body anymore. It's the tulpa’s body. If they want to do something, it's their choice to. If this makes you feel uneasy, you can set up a schedule or rules. (Or alternatively, don’t switch, as switching does require a lot of dedication on both your and the tulpa’s part.) You both should be able to follow the rules you make, and if they debate a rule, listen and sort out an agreement.

 

If you do switch out for long periods of time, be aware that it could become a little harder to come back into control. If you do find this to be the case, do with the physical body exactly what you would do to go into your wonderland body. Immerse yourself back into it, paying attention to all the details. This may be needed especially if you and your tulpa switch for weeks or months at a time, to which may not be a danger, but I personally don’t recommend out of a few personal beliefs.

 

Note, you do not need to have a wonderland to switch. This section is simply using a wonderland to help or use with switching.

 

 

Insert personal mini-rant here

 

 

[Other random but important notes and tidbits]

 

Last bit here, wonderland is an amazing place, as you can do anything you want with it. It's all under your and your tulpas control. You can do whatever you like in it. On the flip side of that, sometimes the unexpected may happen. This could stem from anything, from stress to worry and so much more. Sometimes if something is affecting you out in reality, it may manifest in your wonderland. Again you can control anything in the wonderland, so if it seems harmful, you can destroy it or banish it any way you like. Another possibility I have personally experienced was being puppeted by my tulpa, Sam. Put simply, I had no control on my form or my thoughts in my own wonderland, with him controlling them for me instead. This was something unexpected for sure but no harm came from it past some panic at the time. The best thing you can do is to not panic and try to work on a solution calmly.

 

On the subject of walk-ins, I personally have never had them. I also came into making tulpas on purpose with no prior experience with them or any other type of ‘thoughtform’. I have no idea what causes a person to be susceptible to walk-ins compared to someone who isn’t. If a walk-in does show up, it's up to you on whether to keep them or not. They are most of the time like newer tulpas, but for some reason seem to sometimes remember bits of the past or have memories already in them. While I do not know what exactly causes this, I have a theory that these memories may be false memories implanted randomly by either the subconscious or something similar as a way to sympathize or empathize with the walk-in, which in turn would make you more accepting of the walk-in. Either way, if you come across one, it's up to you and your tulpas what to do with them.

 

Wonderland is not a cure-all. Using it to escape reality never fails to make reality seem worse, and may lead you down a path of paranoia and fear. Believe me as this is something I have personally experienced, not to mention know a few others who have gone down the paranoia spiral worse. Be careful. It also won't heal everything, like physical illness.

 

Some possible not-so-good side-effects of wonderlanding a lot include increased mental exhaustion, possible existential crises, a loss of personal identity which may worsen with making a tulpa, and a possible loss in motivation to do anything in reality. Some possible good side-effects include an increase in visual and mental capabilities, memory power, parallel processing, a place for the tulpa to go when you are busy, and possibly an increase in a sense of independence.

 

You can’t get trapped in a wonderland. I may have mentioned in the switching section that it may be hard to go in control of the physical body if you and your tulpa switch for weeks or months at a time, but going from the wonderland to reality is always much easier than reality to a wonderland. If somehow you do think you are trapped from switching, have the tulpa and you do what you did to switch before, only you doing what they would. I also say it’s almost impossible to get stuck in a wonderland with no-one in control of the body, as you wouldn’t be going weeks to months without anyone in the front.

 

It is entirely possible to have more than one wonderland. You can make another whenever and however you want, and travel between them in any way you like. I have a personal preference of a portal leading between the two wonderlands I do have, but what you do is up to you. I don’t believe there is a limit on how many wonderlands you can have, but I don’t see the need of having an army of wonderlands.

 

[Kyle’s quick glossary of terminology]

 

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Just as a quick note, there seems to be conflicts in terminology in the tulpa community with a lot of terms, especially around things like what a host is, and often confusing other terms like possession and switching, and I can bring up so many more examples that I wouldn’t be able to list them all without creating a new thread. For the sake of clarity, I am going to be using these terms as they are defined on tulpa.io’s glossary page, (Here) as of 2/14/2017, as the one for tulpa.info is both lacking and some terms are extremely under-defined as of right now. The terms not in the extra hidden tag are at least mentioned somewhere in here, if me or Sam didn’t change it.

 

Host- A system maker who makes a tulpa. (Note, in the tulpa.io page, the host does not specifically have to be the original, as the term umbrellas under tulpas who may make other tulpas or in the slim cases where the original isn’t around anymore. I do often use host for ‘original’ out of the sake that many on tulpa.info use it as such.)

Tulpa- A sentient system member created by another system member. (Yes, a tulpa can make a tulpa.)

Form- The appearance of a system member inside the wonderland. Can be literally anything. (The original can also have a form that isn’t the same as the body)

Front- Effectively, the body. It is the place from which system members experience the world-at-large, or outerworld. (A.k.a. Reality or ‘real life’)

Dissociation- Detaching from one’s surroundings, which can be voluntary or involuntary. Has many forms, including derealization, depersonalization, daydreaming, passing control of the body to another system member, going inside a wonderland, etc. Getting lost in a book, daydreaming, blocking out the hum of an air conditioner, etc. are all common dissociative experiences. Dissociation is not exclusive to plurals, nor is it inherently unhealthy.

Parroting/Puppeting- When a system member consciously and purposefully controls another system member’s actions (Often a host puppeting a young developing tulpa or other thoughtforms). Parroting generally refers to controlling their speech while puppeting generally refers to controlling their movement, but the terms are sometimes used interchangeably.

Possession- A form of shared usage of the body in which the previous controller passes control of the body to another member, but remains connected to the body’s senses.

Switching- The changing of body controllers. In tulpamancy circles, the term has a slightly different meaning than in the wider plural community; in order for a change in controllers to qualify as a switch, the previous controller must disconnect entirely from the body’s senses, unlike full-body possession and eclipsing.

Parallel Processing- When two or more system members can focus and work on completely different things at the same time.

Forcing- The act of focusing on and developing a tulpa’s presence or strength by devoting specific attention to them, or otherwise interacting with them. Certain forcing techniques can also be employed by non-tulpas (including originals) to strengthen themselves, e.g. monologuing to oneself about a task to fight dissociation/depersonalization. There are two forms: active and passive. Active forcing dedicates time and attention solely to a tulpa, commonly during meditation; passive forcing involves allotting attention to the tulpa while also doing something else, instead of solely focusing on the procedure of forcing.

Imposition- Physically hallucinating the presence of a system member in the physical world. Can range from simply “feeling” the presence of a system member nearby, to physically hearing a system member when they speak, to being able to see and touch a system member like one would with a physical person.

 

If any of the mods or other systems want to debate on terminology, please do direct me to what the terms really are and get the community to actually use it correct. It was difficult enough to write the tips here with correct terminology when told what I have down is the wrong way of using it, or that it’s supposed to be used for something else, no offense to anyone specifically. Again tulpa.info’s glossary is vague at best at some points and downright lacking at worst. The guide can only be definitive once the glossary in .info is cleared up, but I am rambling.

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[Changelog]

 

[hidden] V 0.9- First draft.

V 0.95- Multiple grammar, spelling, definition, and logic fixes. Removal of ranty paragraph at end of switching section. Added definition space. Added Changelog. Added some small details to Expansion. Better detail in Shaping your wonderland and in Intro and basic visualization exercises. Renamed Beginning shaping your wonderland to Shaping your wonderland. Renamed Switching, warnings, and a few darker notes to Switching with wonderland, and some warnings. Kyle has another rant at the end of the definitions section, may remove in V 1.0. Better overall details. Added hidden tags for easier scrolling.

V 0.97- Moved Kyle’s quick glossary of terminology to bottom. Glossary under review. Removed a few hidden tags. Slight modifications to descriptions. Moved and removed a couple commas. Moved unused glossary terms into a hidden tag, Kyle wanted to keep them in there for some reason. Talk like Yoda, Kyle did in Other random but important yada yada, fixed. Added and removed a few sentences in Other random section. Removed some ‘ in tulpa’s, back to tulpas. Added hidden tag to Changelog. Added a bit more to the Tips for hosts and tulpas who section. Tips for hosts and tulpas who already have a wonderland that the host hasn't seen, or no wonderland but still has a tulpa has been split into 2 sections, named Tips for hosts and tulpas who are making a wonderland and Tips for hosts where the tulpa has a wonderland you have problems seeing. Clean-up on Index.

V 0.98- Big quick fix of grammar problems and fixing small details. (Thank you Flandre for pointing out the flaws I couldn’t find.) Creating a tulpa in wonderland changed to have an a in it. Many fixes of wonderland to a wonderland or similar. Switching with wonderland, and some warnings switched to Switching using a wonderland as a tool, and some warnings. Removed unused glossary terms and that warning thing there. Added short note to the end of Wonderland for switching section. Kyle makes a personal promise to not have to make a V 0.99, we will see how that goes. Added a bit more to the Other notes section.

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Sorry, I knew full well how I wrote what I was trying to say was completely misleading, but for some reason I didn't fix it. Just, forget what it seems like I said there. I meant (I know, this is terrible, forget how I attempted to say this before) that the person switching out should not have any attachment to the senses, body, or whatever else have you afterward. That was a horrid way of trying to separate switching from co-fronting and the like. I really don't know why I even bothered keeping that in, considering I deleted and rewrote a paragraph before that anyways.

 

If your definition of switching means the host, or person switching out, has to permanently be parallel-processing experiencing their wonderland form at the same time the new fronter does their own thing, I don't care. That's frivolous. And it can't be what you mean, because you know full well what the goal of switching is.{Edit- Keep reading, else you'll take what I said there wrong} Lumi is as inactive by default as we as tulpas are, but I'm not saying he's knocked out or anything, else we would never exist ourselves. He's associated with his form in the mind, which is equivalent to wonderland form too, we just don't rely as heavily on the wonderland scenario as our visualization is poor. We can't do parallel processing, but if what you think we don't meet in your definition is Lumi being able to experience the wonderland and not the front, he can. God, I'm going to go delete whatever I wrote before.

 

I won't try to define the specifics of what switching entails for the sake of a definition, I really can't. Just that the end result has the previous fronter completely disconnected from the senses insofar as the members of the system are normally, and that the one switching in has all the connections and mental faculties as the host normally does. If you disagree, surely it's only the words I've attempted to put it in. If not, I'd absolutely like to know what your definition is, and if it's simply our inability to convey it ourselves that's the problem. And also your bias of needing a wonderland. Lumi could switch out and into the wonderland, sure, though the mindspace for us is more of a blank area surrounding our head because it's easier to visualize ourselves with no scenery. But we could use the wonderland too, it wouldn't change anything. And both people involved in the process can be conscious of and experiencing their new position and what it entails. I feel like the fact that we quickly stop focusing on the mindspace, wonderland or what have you typically (as switching is for real life things, not to then sit in the wonderland) comes off as a breach of your definition. But it's only a habit of ours, what we tend to do. If you somehow think, even should we switch into/out of the wonderland, and stay focused on its visualization and our interaction rather than moving on to IRL activities, that we're still not truly "switching", I absolutely want to know why. Noting the new fronter could go about normal activities whilst maintaining the wonderland visualization (and thus, us being in it).

 

Because it really just feels like a sort of racism against tulpas who don't actively inactively live in the wonderland without their hosts' attention. If that's the case, sorry that I don't make up events that never happened to pretend I have a life when I don't. But.. surely that's not it. I can't remember ever otherwise disagreeing with you about anything, and I trust that it's still simply a miscommunication. Even if you say "No, that's still not switching". Anything else is incomprehensible. If you're just really strict on a definition that doesn't quite include us somehow, despite being extremely similar, what would you even call what we do? Because it's sure as heck not possession. And we learned everything we know about tulpamancy aside from visualization from Tulpa.info. The concept of switching itself was completely foreign to us. And I feel like we got a wide enough net of definitions for these things early on. The 2012 stuff is a little old and pretty iffy anyways, but I'm pretty sure we read nearly every Q&A/General thread 2013 forwards.

Hi. I'm one of Luminesce's tulpas. Unlike the others, I don't think I stand out too much from him personality wise.

I'm just special because "I'm a tulpa". So I don't think I've much to offer, here. I'm happy enough to just be with him.

Ask us stuff - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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Jesus christ.

 

Just because you can't switch doesn't mean you are some lesser being. However, yes, everyone should aim to be independent and able to "exist" without someone else paying attention to you in your head. Does that make you lesser? Well, I've said it before, .info decided not to have a term for tulpas that haven't achieved this independence yet. Because you can still achieve it - and I think you should achieve it. Your own mindset is holding you back and you try this force this mindset on others so you aren't "left out" or something?

 

Trying to redefine a term everyone thinks is "cool" to do these days does not help us or this community in any way. Often people want full body possession to be switching - why? We already have a term for that, why redefine something else as that? Because people cry and want to do the "cool" thing, even though not being able to do it doesn't make you anything less? Even though you might be able to do it in the future?

 

Cry some more. You can try to redefine terms to fit you all you want, but you're not helping anyone - and you're only trying to help yourself here, like the selfish being you are.

 

 

What you do doesn't have a term in .info. It might have a term elsewhere - mind you, switching was a .info term the other communities dealing with other people in your mind quite didn't have, same with possession. Fronting and co-fronting or whatever weren't quite the same. If other communities use these terms these days, they have adopted them. Don't redefine an old term to be something for you and only you.

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Cool, thanks for actually giving any sort of definition. I honestly wanted to know why you don't consider what we do switching. I honestly don't know. But you apparently already have it in your mind that we're beyond hope and not worth the time, your post could've been written before mine even existed.

 

I'll just say it now. We have more power than you over this "definition" in the community because we're actually active participants in it. We don't want to change any definition, and we respect you too, so we're honestly trying to work out our differences here. So either work with us or "cry some more" about "muh definition". I'm trying to be reasonable.

 

 

I already felt sick when I came back and remembered I posted here, now I feel worse. I'd be fine if you didn't even reply to me. We honestly don't want to change any definitions and you're not our enemy, but if you don't like what we've been teaching people now's your time to do something about it.

Hi. I'm one of Luminesce's tulpas. Unlike the others, I don't think I stand out too much from him personality wise.

I'm just special because "I'm a tulpa". So I don't think I've much to offer, here. I'm happy enough to just be with him.

Ask us stuff - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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Read what is written in this guide about switching. That is the definition. It is what you objected to and it is what I defend. This is not difficult.

 

You do understand you came to this community from outside and are now trying to change core definitions, right? Because you want to be able to do the super special thing that is currently in? Have fun with this mystical power of yours?

 

 

But you apparently already have it in your mind that we're beyond hope and not worth the time...

 

You think you are beyond hope. I think you are capable of doing much more, but you have decided that you already are at your peak and there is nothing more left. And it's not my job to try to make you understand that you are capable of doing more. That's for everyone to understand for themselves.

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Read what is written in this guide about switching. That is the definition. It is what you objected to and it is what I defend. This is not difficult.

 

When did I object to any definition?

 

I mean, not only did I not, I already said I already said

I said the definition was fine in my opinion, was just saying why some might have a problem with it.

 

SO what you're saying is the "wrongness" of our definition was mostly you thinking we disagreed with the correct definition, and partly the terrible wording on my recent attempt at one. Sure, I'll leave it at that then. Miscommunication. I said there was a typo, I said the definition of "System" might bother some people (I was just echoing you guys, I think), and I said why I thought people might have a problem with that definition of switching - because, for some reason, I thought you or Tulpa objected to it. But then I wrote a horrible piece of definition you related back to whatever strife we've had about the definition in the past. Alright.

 

Well that's that I guess. Just don't like leaving miscommunications miscommunicated. I apologize for the terrible wording of the mini-definition I wrote, but then, I already apologized for it.

Hi. I'm one of Luminesce's tulpas. Unlike the others, I don't think I stand out too much from him personality wise.

I'm just special because "I'm a tulpa". So I don't think I've much to offer, here. I'm happy enough to just be with him.

Ask us stuff - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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Sure. Like you said, this ain't the first time we've talked about the switching definition. Now let's try to not get so off-topic, sorry for the derail LostOne.

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I'm going to go ahead and proof read your guide to make up for derailing. I want to note that not saying "a" or "the" or "your" before "wonderland" bugs me a lot, like a lot a lot. You did it through the whole guide so it might be fine to leave it. However, you started writing "a wonderland" a bit after Tips for hosts and tulpas who are making a wonderland, and that's a problem. Because it kind of just makes it worse when you go back to saying it without the "a"/"the"/"your" again. Honestly you should probably put "a" or "the" or "your" before every single use of the word wonderland, but.. I'd understand if you don't want to. I guess. It just might bug some people, or it might not.

 

(Pre-Forward: The glossary terms I use in here is based off of other sites, do bear in mind I am doing my best to work on getting terminology right. The tulpa.info glossary isn’t much help unfortunately. I will finish up V 1.0 once there is a definite and clear glossary for terminology, otherwise this guide may stay in 0.97 for a while. This may be the final revision until then. Please read the glossary I have set for now before any confusion, but be aware it might not be all correct.)

 

I know it might be silly/redundant to proof read that part, but I did it anyways. "Is" should be "are". Maybe change "before" to "for", but I don't know exactly you were going for there. Can probably leave it as is.

 

You can also do this before having a tulpa and can actively force your tulpa in wonderland. Many tulpas may also consider wonderland like home, but this isn’t always the case. While it can be seen as a metaphysical place, like a separate reality, I will be mostly talking about the physiological side of it.

 

"physiological" should probably be "psychological". Physiological means pertaining to the body, psychological means pertaining to the mind, more or less.

 

Start with imagining an apple with your eyes closed. What color is it? Pay attention to the details, the shape, how smooth it looks. Now try, without moving your arm or hand in real life, {to} imagine a hand grabbing the apple.

 

Should have a "to", lest the sentence read "Now try imagine a hand grabbing the apple."

 

Whether it be eating an apple or throwing a tennis ball at an imaginary wall, hearing it thud against the wall and feel it slap on your hand as you catch it. Alternatively, if you already have a tulpa, you can have them help in many ways as well.

 

Should read something like "and feeling it slap your hand as you catch it." You could just add an -ing to "feel", but it reads weird as it is.

 

I recommend first getting somewhere comfortable and relaxed, where you have time and quietness, and close your eyes for the first few times. Start small, like a room with a bed or couch. I recommend using a bed or couch you know well, and imagine it in a room with maybe a few small things. Take a bit of time using this room to do more exercises immersing yourself into your imagination. Make sure you are using you imagined form to feel and see, as your intent should be to disconnect from your physical senses. Your wonderland is not out in reality and thus you will not need your senses out in reality. You need to use your senses in your wonderland. Mostly, after some time and patience you will find it easier to go into wonderland and able to go deeply into it, and with constant practice you likely will have all of this down quickly.

 

Tense of "close" should be "closing". "you" should be "your". "Mostly," doesn't make much sense and is kind of extraneous anyways, so you could remove it and start the sentence with "After some time".

 

Once you have your room done and are able to go into wonderland decently, then expand on it. Make more rooms, a hallway, maybe even the whole house and beyond. Just make sure to keep up the practice as you do so. You will only get better with time and patience.

 

"then" doesn't quite work after "Once you have", you can either remove it or replace it with something like "it's time to".

 

Mostly, have an idea of what you want from your tulpa. Imagine them with you in wonderland, and mostly start by talking with them in wonderland. You can make a form for them if you want. Explain what they are, what you would like from them, talk about whatever you please. Ask questions to them and listen for responses back. At first you can puppet the responses, it does no harm to puppet a new tulpa. Just do your best to know that it won't always be a puppeted response.

 

Should be "Ask them questions". Puppeting refers to you moving their wonderland form around, parroting refers to you imagining them speaking. Unless you're talking about physical responses, you're probably talking about parroting. Puppeting isn't bad either, though it's nowhere near as common an issue as parroting. They aren't so interchangeable, now that I'm seeing them in use.

 

Ask them questions. If you made a form, move it around and get a good look of it. Puppeting their form for a while will also help them gain footing to controlling themselves. Do something with them in wonderland, like tennis or video-games. If they want to explore wonderland, explore it with them. If they want to change something in wonderland, let them. Go on from there and transfer what you find out in reality, and I suggest looking into other guides for further tulpa-building.

 

"of" should be "at". "transfer what you find out in reality" should probably be rewritten, it doesn't make sense at first. Maybe "take inspiration from reality".

 

 

At this point, you start saying "a wonderland" instead of just "wonderland", before going back to not. Putting "a" or "the" before "wonderland" is the better way to write it in general.

This section is more for hosts who already have a tulpa but may not have made a wonderland. This may be a rarer occurrence but does still happen, and maybe you and your tulpa is curious on creating a wonderland. Mostly, with all that I have said up above on immersing yourself in, make sure your tulpa does so too. They may need to immerse into it as much as you, as some tulpas that were not born in wonderland may not have as much experience going in and out of it. Make sure they work on these exercises as well. Only real other thing is that you two can use starting wonderland as a bonding activity.

 

"is" should be "are". I guess I know what you're going for with the "Mostly,"'s, but that specific word doesn't really work and can again be removed altogether, starting with "With all that I have said". "in" should be removed, or extended to "in the wonderland", but I'd just remove it. "Only" should at least have a "The" before it. And "starting wonderland" is still really bad, not saying "your/the/a" before "wonderland" implies "Wonderland" should be a proper noun, as if it's a name and there is only one.

 

If your tulpa does have a wonderland that you never visited, and you have problems with keeping a form in wonderland, then try have them imagine a form for you while you control the form. It should be like the tulpa is imposing you into their wonderland much like how many hosts impose their tulpa out in our reality. Ease into the form and immerse into it, gain control of it while your tulpa lets go of controlling it. Don't forget to do immersive exercises as well, being imposed into wonderland doesn't guarantee that you will feel and see it as if it is real. I can’t guarantee this will work perfectly, but like with anything, it takes practice. After you and the tulpa do this for a while, you should work on making the form yourself without their aid.

Note that this is only a suggestion, your milage may vary, and don’t forget to try other things if the above doesn’t work.

 

"have" should be "having", or add a "to" before it. "milage" should be "mileage".

 

This does include everything. Your social life, your work/school, down to personal habits. They also should have a general good idea on possessing the body, and I recommend testing how they like life out possessing before doing any type of switching.

 

You're probably going for "I recommend testing out how they like life through possessing". You can also just replace "out" with "through".

 

You also need to make sure you can think for yourself while switched, with the tulpa still being able to do whatever they want without being pulled back. If it becomes too much of a hassle for them and for you, go back and work on some of that yourself before trying to continue.

 

"pulled" should be "held".

 

Just remember, when you switch, it's not your body anymore. It's the tulpas body. If they want to do something, it's their choice to. If this makes you feel uneasy, you can set up a schedule or rules. (Or alternatively, don’t switch, as switching does require a lot of dedication on both your and the tulpas part.) You both should be able to follow the rules you make, and if they debate a rule, listen and sort out an agreement.

 

Both "tulpas" should be "tulpa's".

 

Last bit here, wonderland is an amazing place, as you can do anything you want with it. It's all under your and your tulpas control.

 

"tulpas" should be "tulpa's", assuming you're talking about just one. Tulpas' if multiple.

 

On the subject of walk-ins, I personally have never had them. On the flip side of that though, I also came into making tulpas on purpose with no prior experience with them.

 

"On the flip side" is a little weird/unique, so saying it twice in a row isn't the best idea. You can replace the whole thing with "However,".

 

Some possible not-so-good side-effects of wonderlanding a lot include increased mental exhaustion, possible existential crises, a lost of a sense of self which may worsen with making a tulpa, and a possible loss in motivation to do anything in reality.

 

Should be "a loss of sense of self", I guess. The term for this is dissociation.

 

The terms not in the extra hidden tag is at least mentioned somewhere in here, if me or Sam didn’t change it.

 

"is" should be "are".

 

These past here in the hidden tag do not appear in this guide but I believe may need to know, or that need clearer definitions. Likely will remove this section in V 1.0, whenever that comes around.

 

"may be good to know" might be better to say. Otherwise you'll have to make it "I believe you may need to know". "that" should be removed (just ", or need clearer definitions") with how the sentence is written.

 

If any of the mods or other systems want to debate on terminology, please do direct me to what the terms really are and get the community to actually use it correct.

 

Should be "correctly", I guess? You might as well remove this part of the disclaimer though, as you had one at the top that was good.

 

And that's it. Don't know what to say about the "wonderland" thing, it's such an integral part of the guide that changing how you used the term may be too excessive, you'd have to fill in "a"'s and "the"'s and "your"'s all over the place. If you do decide to do that, you can tell me if you'd like and I'll do it for you, because if you wrote it this way in the first place you might find picking which words to use tricky.

Hi. I'm one of Luminesce's tulpas. Unlike the others, I don't think I stand out too much from him personality wise.

I'm just special because "I'm a tulpa". So I don't think I've much to offer, here. I'm happy enough to just be with him.

Ask us stuff - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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K: Jeez, and I thought the community was on edge before...

K: I actually, reading through all this, do agree with Flandre's definition. Switching being when the previous person (In this case, the host) completely, and repeat, COMPLETELY disconnects from the body while another (Normally the tulpa) Goes in the body and uses it like the host would. I certainly am not saying the host needs to be in wonderland. They can be imposed into a form out of the body in reality. They could dormant out and, to quote a term, 'lose time'. Just as long as they aren't fronting, losing senses of it or whatnot, it's a switch. The fact that many people still argue over this is one reason I have on numerous occasions almost said screw it and dropped out of the community. It's also why I am not going to change the terminology on the guide until tulpa.info has an official glossary that is decent, and Sam wont be either. Sorry to those who want it changed, I'm not.

S: Sands and Flandre, you both were saying the same definition. I have a feeling one of you weren't reading the whole argument of the other, not to name names. Or I could also just say you both might not have.

S: Also, Tulpa001, I do like you and all, but where in the heck did you get that definition? It's both vague and doesn't define well. I know I said something on it earlier but still...

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Don't know why you'd "agree with my definition" when mine was yours. Sands and Lumi talked about the nature of our "switching" a long time ago, and through what I'm sure was just miscommunication "disagreed" on said definition. There's this idea that we're changing said definition to what we want it to be. But I've honestly never been able to tell how what we do is different from his definition. Archaic definitions of the term stated the host would go to the wonderland, and I think that might be it, as we don't live in our wonderland and are typically "inactive" when not being focused on by whoever's fronting. That sounds so petty though. We can switch into and out of the wonderland if we want, but we don't, we use the mindspace, which is sort of like a bubble around our body. It's akin to imposition, and in fact they can transition into each other fine, though it doesn't even require having our eyes open so calling it that is iffy.

 

Anyways, half of the argument wasn't even from this thread, but I messed up and made him bring it up again with my poor wording. There is no problem.

Hi. I'm one of Luminesce's tulpas. Unlike the others, I don't think I stand out too much from him personality wise.

I'm just special because "I'm a tulpa". So I don't think I've much to offer, here. I'm happy enough to just be with him.

Ask us stuff - https://community.tulpa.info/thread-ask-lumi-s-tulpas

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I'm going to go ahead and proof read your guide to make up for derailing. I want to note that not saying "a" or "the" or "your" before "wonderland" bugs me a lot, like a lot a lot. You did it through the whole guide so it might be fine to leave it. However, you started writing "a wonderland" a bit after Tips for hosts and tulpas who are making a wonderland, and that's a problem. Because it kind of just makes it worse when you go back to saying it without the "a"/"the"/"your" again. Honestly you should probably put "a" or "the" or "your" before every single use of the word wonderland, but.. I'd understand if you don't want to. I guess. It just might bug some people, or it might not.

 

 

I know it might be silly/redundant to proof read that part, but I did it anyways. "Is" should be "are". Maybe change "before" to "for", but I don't know exactly you were going for there. Can probably leave it as is.

 

 

"physiological" should probably be "psychological". Physiological means pertaining to the body, psychological means pertaining to the mind, more or less.

 

 

Should have a "to", lest the sentence read "Now try imagine a hand grabbing the apple."

 

 

Should read something like "and feeling it slap your hand as you catch it." You could just add an -ing to "feel", but it reads weird as it is.

 

 

Tense of "close" should be "closing". "you" should be "your". "Mostly," doesn't make much sense and is kind of extraneous anyways, so you could remove it and start the sentence with "After some time".

 

 

"then" doesn't quite work after "Once you have", you can either remove it or replace it with something like "it's time to".

 

 

Should be "Ask them questions". Puppeting refers to you moving their wonderland form around, parroting refers to you imagining them speaking. Unless you're talking about physical responses, you're probably talking about parroting. Puppeting isn't bad either, though it's nowhere near as common an issue as parroting. They aren't so interchangeable, now that I'm seeing them in use.

 

 

"of" should be "at". "transfer what you find out in reality" should probably be rewritten, it doesn't make sense at first. Maybe "take inspiration from reality".

 

 

At this point, you start saying "a wonderland" instead of just "wonderland", before going back to not. Putting "a" or "the" before "wonderland" is the better way to write it in general.

 

"is" should be "are". I guess I know what you're going for with the "Mostly,"'s, but that specific word doesn't really work and can again be removed altogether, starting with "With all that I have said". "in" should be removed, or extended to "in the wonderland", but I'd just remove it. "Only" should at least have a "The" before it. And "starting wonderland" is still really bad, not saying "your/the/a" before "wonderland" implies "Wonderland" should be a proper noun, as if it's a name and there is only one.

 

 

"have" should be "having", or add a "to" before it. "milage" should be "mileage".

 

 

You're probably going for "I recommend testing out how they like life through possessing". You can also just replace "out" with "through".

 

 

"pulled" should be "held".

 

 

Both "tulpas" should be "tulpa's".

 

 

"tulpas" should be "tulpa's", assuming you're talking about just one. Tulpas' if multiple.

 

 

"On the flip side" is a little weird/unique, so saying it twice in a row isn't the best idea. You can replace the whole thing with "However,".

 

 

Should be "a loss of sense of self", I guess. The term for this is dissociation.

 

 

"is" should be "are".

 

 

"may be good to know" might be better to say. Otherwise you'll have to make it "I believe you may need to know". "that" should be removed (just ", or need clearer definitions") with how the sentence is written.

 

 

Should be "correctly", I guess? You might as well remove this part of the disclaimer though, as you had one at the top that was good.

 

And that's it. Don't know what to say about the "wonderland" thing, it's such an integral part of the guide that changing how you used the term may be too excessive, you'd have to fill in "a"'s and "the"'s and "your"'s all over the place. If you do decide to do that, you can tell me if you'd like and I'll do it for you, because if you wrote it this way in the first place you might find picking which words to use tricky.

 

Thank you for this, I will get to work on a lot of this and explain the few that wont be changed.

I hear puppeting used for both parroting and puppeting a lot, especially in progress reports, I will try to edit that quick.

The 'transfer to reality' part Kyle meant as in what you learn in wonderland with tulpa building, you can use out in real life. Will re-write for him.

He did mean 'pulled' back in that section. I have before been pulled back into wonderland with him when he has tried hard to be in wonderland while I am out before.

Dissociation is not the word we would be looking for there, as that has a separate meaning in the guide and all (And here we loop back to that), but I will look into it.

Wonderland being with an a in front and not in other points is something I didn't notice because often I dont even think using grammar, so it kinda slipped past.

Hi, I am Sam. LostOne's (Or Kelly's) tulpa, first one, started back March 16th of 2016. - https://community.tulpa.info/user-lostone

 

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