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Autism and Tulpamancy. What is the relation and is creating a tulpa dangerous for me?

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Hello everyone. 
 

I have autism, professionally diagnosed, and ever since I was three years old,

I could go to a different world completely (like a wonderland). It is high functioning autism of course, otherwise I could not talk to you.  But, I do feel that I was/I am close to functionally impairing. Why do I think this? Because of what I am about to explain in the next paragraph. 

 

 It was not something learnt. How could I learn at three years old to do this? My parents never did this. At three years old, I would put loud music and spin around myself. I would never get dizzy. It would allow me to go to a wonderland, except it was like multiple wonderlands. I’ve heard that functionality impaired autistic children often spin around themselves or start hoping around. I am not exactly sure why they do this, so I am going to use an excerpt from an autism blog to illustrate this:


Why do many kids with autism . . .Like to spin and jump

 

 Shelley: Spinning and jumping are also examples of repetitive motor behaviors. When a child is spinning or jumping he/she is activating the vestibular system. The child may seek vestibular stimulation as a means to elicit “feel good” sensations and/or also to positively affect his/her arousal.  

 

Emily: Yes, in other words, many children with autism seek sensory information or experiences from the environment (due to feeling under-stimulated). They may also use spinning and jumping as a way of regulating themselves (i.e.: when they are stressed, anxious, or overwhelmed). Spinning and jumping can help one

Source: https://theautismblog.seattlechildrens.org/why-do-kids-with-autism-do-that/

 

So, I am of the opinion that my spinning at three years old was related to my autism, now professionally diagnosed.

 

Okay, okay.... let’s go the fun part: Tulpas

 

As someone who is autistic, Tulpas, in my  most basic and shallowest of knowledge of the subject, seem to be perfect outlet for me. I often feel lonely, even amongst people, I feel like I really need a friend who understands me. Though my social interaction is impaired, it did come with the pro of having heightened visualization abilities. I can create wonderlands with absolutely zero difficulty, I have been doing seen I was three!

 

But, here is my problem: I am already too much into my own world. Too much obsessed with the fiction and not reality. From what I understand, Tulpas are, for the lack of a better term, training the mind into thinking a fiction is reality. Despite my eccentric spinning, I could distinguish between what was real and wasn’t. My wonderland was never real to me, outside of my spinning. In the spinning it was real and vivid. 
 

Last tiny problem, what if Tulpa decides to mess with my wonderland? I would not like that. 
 

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First, I am a tulpa and I have high functioning autism. Autism is shared by everyone in my system.

Second, my host does not typically spin when she goes to wonderland. She may pace, stim, and visualize story ideas all at the same time, but she can get dizzy and has trouble focusing on anything if she is spinning around.

Therefore, spinning is not a requirement for tulpa forcing or wonderlanding. If you have to spin to go to wonderland, then I would recommend doing so in a private and safe place so you don't accidentally bump into something or get disturbed.
 

4 hours ago, Alostlife said:

But, here is my problem: I am already too much into my own world. Too much obsessed with the fiction and not reality. From what I understand, Tulpas are, for the lack of a better term, training the mind into thinking a fiction is reality.


To a greater extent, creating a tulpa is like having another person live inside your head. While a tulpa will hear what you think and understand your perspective, them being more empathetic is their choice. Some tulpas are very empathetic, others not so much.

If you are not too interested in other people, a tulpa may be easier to work with, but in the long run it will feel like talking to another person. Cat, my host, sometimes finds me and the others exhausting to talk to and feels like she burns less energy creating story ideas.

 

4 hours ago, Alostlife said:

Last tiny problem, what if Tulpa decides to mess with my wonderland? I would not like that. 


Tulpas can break the rules! The other tulpas in my system have created their own wonderland or created their own symbolism in whichever wonderland. However, everyone is pretty good about staying out of the way if Cat wants some alone time or a chance to think about her story ideas. If you had a tulpa, you can ask them to stay away from your private wonderlands and give them their own wonderland to play with.

 

The important thing is if you give them a wonderland, they still need time and attention. They cannot grow and develop in your absence.

On a different note, tulpas are also expected to deviate at least a little bit. If you give your tulpa a form, they may decide to change it a little or a lot later when they get older.
 

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[...] is creating a tulpa dangerous for me?


I'm sorry, I'm confused by what you mean. Dangerous in what way?

 


 

You may be interested in reading various Progress Reports to see if living with a tulpa would make you feel uncomfortable or not. Those may reveal more surprising information about tulpas than creation guides.

 

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I'm Ranger, Gray's/Cat_ShadowGriffin's tulpa, and I love hippos! I also like cake and chatting about stuff.

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It's funny you mention this. My host personally has autism. Though your situation seems different from ours, since he can still easily seperate "physical" from "mental", with me falling in the latter group. Aside from that, he tagged our relationship with the rather weird label "self" as an indicator of an internal relationship rather than an external one, whilst still acknowledging it functions as an interpersonal relationship.

 

As for the last question, yes, tulpas do have the ability to change wonderland. Though, there are probably options for you if you want to prevent any changes to it. You could try to agree on something together, or you can give your tulpa their own area to design. That all is up to you. I'm sure you can work things out discussing things.


Michen, host or "main" / Amantha, anthro arctic fox tulpa

 

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