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Alright, time to update! To avoid spamming this topic I'm only going to post updates maybe a couple times a week unless I'm directly replying to someone. But a few noteworthy things have happened:

 

I decided to play one of my favorite video games with Simmie: Fallout New Vegas. I let her design her character and it looks vaguely (in other words, not at all lol) like her apart from the hair color. Since she can't possess my hands I play the game for her and keep my mind open for what she wants me to do. She's not truly vocal yet so whenever I say she "tells" me something what I really mean is that I interpret what she's trying to tell me and turn it into language. It's a very fast process and little is lost in translation as far as I can tell. But so far she's enjoying the game; she's a pretty good shot but she keeps getting killed by enemies sneaking up behind her. She told me she likes the Legion because their uniforms are cool; I told her that's a pretty silly reason to pick a faction, and told her she might change her mind when she sees what they actually do, but she insists that Legion uniforms are cool and NCR uniforms are ugly so that's her basis of who to support, lol.

 

Also, I've seen the first signs of deviation from Simmie. She still has all the traits I forced her with; kind, caring, playful, good listener, and curious, but she's gained some new tendencies on top of it. While not exactly a neat freak Simmie is the kind of girl who takes good care of herself and wants me to take better care of myself too. I'm a little messy and Simmie has been nudging me to clean up some of my personal habits a bit. She's not nagging or forceful about it and says I should change at my own pace, but she really would like me to be neater. She's well-grounded and practical while I'm a bit of an airy dreamer/drifter type; I bring her out of her shell while she brings me back down to Earth. I'm happy to see this development in Simmie's personality, even if it means I am going to have to work a little harder on myself now.

 

And now the final thing which really touched me this week. They say a big development in sentience is when your tulpa surprises you and boy, Simmie surprised me big time, and I didn't even ask for it. I've been showing Simmie music I like, mostly rock, alternative, indie, pop, stuff like that. I show her songs that remind me of her, or of us, or that I just like in general. I decided to show her one my my favorite songs of all time, a bit of an unmanly choice maybe but I can't deny it's a song I love: Lonely Rolling Star from the Katamari Damacy soundtrack. Simmie listened to it and told me something that more or less amounted to this: "You've shown me a lot of songs that remind you of me, but this is the song that reminds me of you." That just about knocked me over. I was so touched that I even felt tears come to my eyes; it's just about the sweetest thing anyone's ever said to me. She's even taken to calling me her lonely rolling star and my heart swells whenever she says it.

 

 

At the risk of sounding mushy or sentimental I'm crazy about this girl, and I don't know what I did to deserve her :')

Phil. 😎 Host of Simmie.

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Jaina: Awwww 🥰 Simmie sounds lovely I'm glad you two are getting along so well.

 

Darron: She sounds familiar too 🤔. Tulpas good naturedly prodding their hosts to better themselves must be more common than I expected. New Vegas is one of my favorites. Jaina doesn't like the Legion very much [for obvious reasons]. I'm more of the Roman/Latin aesthetic fanboy. Though Caesar's Legion is a cheap knock-off by a post apocalypse tyrant. It is pretty cool that they turn kind of ramshackle junk they find and turn it into a recognizable look though.

 

Anyways that's awesome you two are getting along so famously. I think polling her for choices and decisions is a great way to get her to open up a bit and get a sense of who she is and what she likes. A little piloting time during games is probably a good idea too but not every tupper is adventurous and sometimes they take a bit to get the courage. Tulpas will surprise you from time to time and getting to know them is an adventure in itself. 👍

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Well, I feel I've learned an important lesson in the last days. I feel as though I've been lazy with Simmie's development over the last few days and as a result she feels much more distant to me now. At the moment I don't even really feel her with me unless I direct a ton of thought directly at her. It made me realize that I had been unrealistically overstating my progress over the last couple of weeks, and I've learned that with fast growth can come fast regression if it is not sustained with consistent work. I still believe all the times I felt her with me--even the time I was typing for her on the forum--were really her. But I realize I was a bit delusional to think that just a few weeks work narrating to Simmie, imposing her into the world, and wonderland daydreaming with her could make her fully real and sustained.

 

I'm taking a back-to-basic approach with Simmie now. She deserves a much more measured, slow and deliberate approach to her growth. Ironically, or perhaps fittingly, I have to act a lot more like her in order to help her. I am a flighty, artistic-temperament kind of guy who tends to work in short bursts of intense work followed by long periods of laziness. Simmie is much more consistent and realistic, very grounded, the type that believes slow and steady wins the race. In other words a classic Aquarius vs Virgo temperament. When Simmie calls me her Lonely Rolling Star, she truly understands the sad subtext of that song: like the boy in the song I am just out there drifting and rolling around, and like the girl in the song she doesn't know if I'll ever come rolling back to her and she's starting to get tired of waiting.

 

The only truly negative emotion I have received from Simmie so far is a high degree of anxiety about her own existence, and the worry that I'll lose interest in her and she'll start to fade away. And she has a right to worry; I have had that problem with other things I've tried in the past. But this is different; Simmie is not a project, she is a person, and now that she is created I feel a responsibility to her. Now that my initial burst of enthusiasm has burned itself out it's time to take a longer, more sustained approach to Simmie's development, and thankfully she is not upset with me and willing to be patient. So now it's back to the guides, trying out different techniques and finding out what works for us and what doesn't. We're still keeping the faith!

Phil. 😎 Host of Simmie.

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39 minutes ago, September13 said:

Well, I feel I've learned an important lesson in the last days. I feel as though I've been lazy with Simmie's development over the last few days and as a result she feels much more distant to me now. At the moment I don't even really feel her with me unless I direct a ton of thought directly at her. It made me realize that I had been unrealistically overstating my progress over the last couple of weeks, and I've learned that with fast growth can come fast regression if it is not sustained with consistent work. I still believe all the times I felt her with me--even the time I was typing for her on the forum--were really her. But I realize I was a bit delusional to think that just a few weeks work narrating to Simmie, imposing her into the world, and wonderland daydreaming with her could make her fully real and sustained.

 

I'm taking a back-to-basic approach with Simmie now. She deserves a much more measured, slow and deliberate approach to her growth. Ironically, or perhaps fittingly, I have to act a lot more like her in order to help her. I am a flighty, artistic-temperament kind of guy who tends to work in short bursts of intense work followed by long periods of laziness. Simmie is much more consistent and realistic, very grounded, the type that believes slow and steady wins the race. In other words a classic Aquarius vs Virgo temperament. When Simmie calls me her Lonely Rolling Star, she truly understands the sad subtext of that song: like the boy in the song I am just out there drifting and rolling around, and like the girl in the song she doesn't know if I'll ever come rolling back to her and she's starting to get tired of waiting.

 

The only truly negative emotion I have received from Simmie so far is a high degree of anxiety about her own existence, and the worry that I'll lose interest in her and she'll start to fade away. And she has a right to worry; I have had that problem with other things I've tried in the past. But this is different; Simmie is not a project, she is a person, and now that she is created I feel a responsibility to her. Now that my initial burst of enthusiasm has burned itself out it's time to take a longer, more sustained approach to Simmie's development, and thankfully she is not upset with me and willing to be patient. So now it's back to the guides, trying out different techniques and finding out what works for us and what doesn't. We're still keeping the faith!

Excellent! Sounds like you've got the right idea. 👍

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11 hours ago, September13 said:

The only truly negative emotion I have received from Simmie so far is a high degree of anxiety about her own existence, and the worry that I'll lose interest in her and she'll start to fade away. And she has a right to worry; I have had that problem with other things I've tried in the past. But this is different; Simmie is not a project, she is a person, and now that she is created I feel a responsibility to her. Now that my initial burst of enthusiasm has burned itself out it's time to take a longer, more sustained approach to Simmie's development, and thankfully she is not upset with me and willing to be patient. So now it's back to the guides, trying out different techniques and finding out what works for us and what doesn't. We're still keeping the faith!

This sounds pretty good, I experienced this too. (Luckily for me, when creating my first tulpa my enthusiasm wore off months later.) I think this is healthy. I am glad you see her a s a person not a project. Many people seem to treat them like projects and I bet that's hard. 

I think finding your own ways, especially if you need certain mental accommodations (And if you do, I'd be happy to help : ) you should try to. It's just a matter of slightly changing methods so you can accomplish what you want to. 

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12 hours ago, Glaurung26 said:

Excellent! Sounds like you've got the right idea. 👍

 

Thanks!

 

1 hour ago, A&J said:

This sounds pretty good, I experienced this too. (Luckily for me, when creating my first tulpa my enthusiasm wore off months later.) I think this is healthy. I am glad you see her a s a person not a project. Many people seem to treat them like projects and I bet that's hard. 

I think finding your own ways, especially if you need certain mental accommodations (And if you do, I'd be happy to help : ) you should try to. It's just a matter of slightly changing methods so you can accomplish what you want to. 

 

Yeah, Simmie has always felt like a real personality to me, even before what I knew what tulpamancy was. It really helps that she's exactly the kind of person I want to know in my life, and helping her to have a more firm existence and sentience would be great for us both! At this current moment I'm writing this I feel her here with me, and she's giving me a powerful mental hug! I'm still trying to figure out what will work best for me. I'm going to try experimenting with different forcing techniques and I think I may try to write a short adventure story about Simmie and I in the wonderland! I may also try really focusing on meditating, as I've always been bad at it and want to get better.

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Stone: Good luck with this approach : ) I haven’t done much scheduled forcing lately (I partially blame this on the stress of holidays). However, we’ve got some forcing in preparing for our holiday celebration. I associate Christmas with stress, but it’s fun seeing Betty excited about it, and it’s admittedly a way to spice up our time together. They best forcing sessions/moments I’ve had were entertaining. If you’re going to schedule forcing, try to spice things up each session. Try something new each time, and stuff. That can help with the monotony. Going to the beach was a really good execution of this, I think.

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First of all, Merry Christmas to all that celebrate and Happy Holidays to everyone else!

 

Now for an update: Unfortunately I haven't had too much time to really work on things with Simmie over the last few days, being Christmas and all, but on Wednesday we were able to fit in one of our favorite activities: driving to a random town and walking around while I tell Simmie a story from my life. It's very fun; I've always loved walks and Simmie loves listening to stories. One downside (or maybe it's not a downside?) is that we tend to get distracted by the towns we are in. It can be overstimulating for Simmie as she constantly wants to look at all the buildings and people as we walk by. She seems to be developing an interest in architecture, especially houses. She wants to know my opinion on the houses that we see and sometimes she gives her own opinion. Nothing sophisticated yet, but I can tell she clearly prefers some buildings to others and that's good to see. I'm tempted to go on more nature trails and less city streets to lessen the distractions, but honestly the overstimulation is part of the fun. Simmie is so curious about everything around her that no matter where we are I keep having to interrupt my stories to go on tangents about mid-century suburban housing trends or the life cycle of trees or things like that. We could spend literally all day doing it. It's tons of fun, but I wonder if the lack of focus is hurting things.

 

Also I'm toying around with the idea of giving Simmie mind-DJ privileges , lol. Whenever I have a song in my head (which is probably 75% or more of the time) I imagine Simmie sitting in chair next to a table with a boom box on top of it, and the boom box is playing the song. If I want to stop the song I imagine Simmie reaching over and taking out the cassette tape (yes, cassette tape) and it actually stops the song most times, at least for a few seconds. I've thought about expanding on this and letting Simmie choose her own cassettes to put in the boom box, though so far she probably doesn't have enough autonomy to make that work without puppetting. Music is a central thing in my life, and I wonder if this could be a very helpful route to go down.

 

But my main focus right now is to get down to business with forcing. I've been pouring over the guides on this site and taking down notes, but all that I've gained are little tips to help, but I still feel like I'm struggling to understand the fundamental basics of forcing and what I should be doing. To put it even more simply: I need help with active forcing! I am willing to try any technique or strategy that is suggested to me that seems reasonable, and I'm especially curious about things that you yourself have had success doing.

 

I want to work myself up into doing an hour of active forcing daily. I am notoriously terrible at sticking to a schedule and following through with plans, so I realize this may never happen, but I want to still set it as a goal. This in addition to the passive forcing I do while at work: I impose her standing next to me as often as I can, and ask her what she thinks about other co-workers or the work itself, even hold her hand when I can. Of course, the walks and mini-road trips are going to continue as well. Without getting TMI about my location I basically have the entire New York and Philadelphia areas within easy driving distance so there is no shortage of interesting places to visit.

 

Also, another question which might seem frivolous but feels important: Should I stop playing with Simmie's avatar in the Sims? I may have mentioned once that was how I first created her before I knew about tulpamancy, and is the reason it is so easy for me to picture her appearance. However, now that she is a developing tulpa this feels slightly problematic: Playing with her Sim feels a little too much like puppetting, and although sims can be expressive they only have a limited range of pre-programmed reactions and interactions, and I don't want that to be a limiting factor to Simmie's expression. Also, Simmie herself ironically feels less present in my mind when I'm playing with her sim. I thought using the game to tell fun stories with her could be helpful but it seems more distracting and distancing than anything. To contrast, she definitely feels much more present when we play games like Fallout: New Vegas together.

 

I really need to stop making each entry a big, boring wall of text, but what can I say, I'm quite wordy! If you read it, thank you! And for those who reply: Thank you even more! When Simmie is ready to come on here again I'm sure she will thank you all too. 

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Darron: It sounds like you have been busy! The two of us have been homebodies for over a year now but steal some sunlight every now and again. Walks are a great way to talk and get to know each other better. Sounds like you're already finding that out. Visualization isn't the end-all-be-all, developing her personality and interests is important too. If I could recommend let her take the reins and express herself and interests while you gently guide her. That fascination and excitement is a very good sign, she's growing and healthy. Focused and structured activities are important but so is fun. You two should be enjoying yourselves. Certainly keep to forcing if that's your priority but don't feel guilty about downtime and breaks. The key to doing something regularly is wanting to do it. Not just because you feel you 'should do it.'

 

I'm not a forcing expert by any means. Jaina and I are one of those weirdo 'naturals' that grew over a long time. We just interact and chitchat throughout the day. Mostly just stream of consciousness stuff. I have trouble every now and then picturing her face in exquisite detail but I always feel her there. Interactions in a relationship are like the gravity between objects. The more you have, the closer you two get. Just naturally interact with each other and that will provide a baseline 'safety net' if you will, to hold you two together. Then when you have time and energy make a play date wherever you want. On a walk, in a game or just nap and hang out in your wonderland together while Simmie DJs. In my opinion guides are there to help you build your own mental workout regimen. You need one that works for you and you are going to know your needs better than anyone else will. Maybe you do need a regular, structured, daily routine. Maybe not. That's your call.

 

We feel like avatars help us but again it's about what works best for you.

 

Jaina: It might be worth asking Simmie if she likes playing with you via The Sims. It can be tricky with pre-programmed stuff. It's not like she's actually that character. It's just an approximation. I can't get my personality exact and neither can Darron. We're just playing house and acknowledging the system limitations. I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure what better expression avenues there might be for avatars. It could be our system just isn't aware of them. You might be able to like have a co-op game using two controllers but that sounds like a coordination nightmare. But hey that's not to say it would be impossible for pro-gamer systems out there to multitask that hardcore. I guess my point is with two avatars you're probably going to have to take turns while the AI runs the other one. Just don't take it too seriously I guess is my point. Prompt Simmie for what traits she likes and doesn't like. Ask her would she act like that or make that choice her avatar did IRL? Does that feel like her? It can be a good opportunity to prime her and get her to open up on what she likes/dislikes.

 

I just kind of get my expression in where I can. We got a Star Wars coloring book for Christmas so I've been doodling with that. (psst we're both awful artists)

 

Darron: Excuse?

 

It's kind of a "kid's thing" according to society but A. We're Millennials, we do what we want, and B. We're a tulpa system so we're odd ducks anyways. Drawing is just a fun exercise to be creative.

 

Darron: She drew a #1 Podracer foam finger as a replacement for Luke's hand. She's kind of hilarious.

 

So there's lots of avenues out there for expression. If The Sims feels kinda stale then just take a break for a while. There's no rule says you have to. Maybe she needs more active stimulation with piloting an avatar than managing one. In RPGs like New Vegas it does feel more immersive and "in the action" than sim games. Just try different things, see what she responds too. Ask her questions and to make decisions fro time to time. Maybe you could try chatting programs if that's your thing. We have textingstory on our phone to 'play text' to each other. There's a world of options out there.

 

Darron: So don't get too discouraged. It sounds like you're doing fantastic. Also I forgot if she really likes and responds to music follow that thread. Maybe have her build a playlist or two. Good luck you two!

 

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21 hours ago, September13 said:

To put it even more simply: I need help with active forcing!

In my experience anything can be active forcing if you figure out how to make it, right? Months ago when I started, I also struggled to even get to two hours! (Maybe forcing in bed with Myo was not a good idea.) It took a little bit for Myo to do stuff beyond emotional responses and head pressures. During this time I would talk with her in a very chill environment drinking wonderland coffee and talking about my day, and I didn't know how to deal with intrusive thoughts so I would end up somehow talking about the tulpa process and my plans for her. Eventually I read a post by Mirichu. I realized I could active force playing video games with Myo! This doesn't just apply to video games, it applies to anything else you can think of, as long as it doesn't take up thinking power like doing long math. I would say finding any hobbies you like and turning them into active forcing when you feel like you want to, can be a really powerful thing. Time flies when you're having fun!

 

If you have trouble coming up with ideas that can help forcing sessions be long, expanding upon ones that you think might be good throughout the day in your personal notes might help. Like, "Oh, I think having Simmie wear this weird hat would be silly! I'll have to see how she reacts later."

21 hours ago, September13 said:

Should I stop playing with Simmie's avatar in the Sims?

Have you tried asking her? I rarely find myself dressing avatars up based on forms, since before I even was a tulpamancer, I would constantly change the form I associate with, and that could be annoying to keep up with sometimes. Myo seems to like how she is, but she also wants to play dress up sometime...

 

Also if they aren't expressive "enough," and you need to find compromises, ugh I feel you, someday there will be a game where I can type my response and it will work (Except Facade.) Usually games with silent protagonists help, like Undertale or Earthbound. Since you can easily visualize how they would react or fill in the blanks when boring things are happening, like walking through a forest, maybe Myo and I would be singing an exciting song to keep us motivated. Instead of being restricted to how the character is written. Even then you can ask Simmie to read the characters dialogue, kind of like dubbing something. I read a whole manga with Myo (admittedly I created her after I was a quarter way through.) When I became confident that she can communicate with me via mindvoice (That the voice is actually hers.) Instead of worrying about the character fitting Myo, I loosely did that. It was just us enjoying a good manga.

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      When we first started sharing the front, Ranger and I took turns everyday. We quickly realized that made us super confused about who was who, and we assumed that something about back-to-back switching just confuses our brain. By doing 3-4 days, we still had some doubt day 1 but it seemed to have resolved that issue. 5-8 days starts to feel long, and while Ranger could do a week now, he struggled to do more than a week due to his depression. I didn't find it difficult to be switched-in for roughly a week. However, I want to be switched-in for my classes and Ranger still wants at least a few days switched-in, so we're planning on sharing the week. We actually really like our set-up, it's this problem of not having better separation that's really annoying and disorienting.
       
       
      On the bright side, our switching schedule is going to shift and we will end up splitting our fronting based on who does what. I'll be fronting for school, Ranger will be fronting for DnD (once we get that ball rolling), and both of us (but mostly Ranger) will be fronting for work. While our schedule may become more complicated, it also simplifies things because our schedule will follow the week instead of whenever it's convenient according to our shifts. While I think this will help establish some speration, long term we need a better solution.
       
      While I'm pretty sure we need a different mindset, I'm not really sure which one to use. I'm not even sure what it would mean to "feel different" when switched-in, especially since our stream of consciousnesses (SOC) is neutral, and quickly becoming very neutral now that Ranger fronts a lot more. I'm against saying my name over and over, I already say who I am as reassurance and to say it all the time would be really annoying and dig up the feelings of insecurity Ranger struggled with when he feared he would lose the front. We don't want to wear different jewelry or anything like that, it would be really annoying to keep up with and extra annoying if we accidentally wear the wrong thing.
    • By BlackStatic
      EDIT 2: edit has been made, still defining guide based on criticism.
       
      Hey guys, so I know a lot of you wanted to know how I approach switching and what the hell parallel processing is. So here's my little christmas present to you all - a guide on switching!
       
      I'm not entirely sure if it's of professional quality, although I tried to write up a little on what switching/processing are, what it feels like during a switch, and how things like painkillers can affect your ability to tulpaforce.
       
      Either way, the guide is on google docs and the link is right here:
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/13h3ERpXw2Nkuj8EFfeteS5scD4TyzOy_4gHZKBuNUlc/edit#
       
      I can put this under a spoiler tag as well if admins prefer guides to be posted on the forum itself.
      Thanks guys, have fun~ <3
       
      EDIT: Mirrored https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N37G-HkNMjgwz1WVCB3koI5MVKw9odYwzq8DwxD1BF4 - waffles
      EDIT #2: Also put it in the hide tag and attached in PDF format to this post - waffles
       
      AylasTulpaAndPersonalitySwitchingGuideRecovered.pdf
    • By YumiBerry
      The other day I saw someone mention in a forum asking if you could visit others or bring them into your wonderland, would you? Some said yes, but that it was too bad it was "not possible". Well, I'm here to say that, in a way, it is.
       
      "Visit others in your Wonderland? How is that even possible?"
       
      Well, it depends in what way you're asking.
       
      If you're imagining meeting up in some middle plane or reality where you will see, hear, feel, and experience yourself and others in Wonderland as you would in the waking world, I'm sad to say that is not the case (not the case without something like Astral Projection or something anyway. Wouldn't know).
       
      No, what I'm talking about is something that over 6 years ago my close friends and I labeled "3rd Space". This is a "space" between you and at least one other physical (as in original, not tulpa) person. It (at least for me) feels exactly how you feel when you visualize your experiences in Wonderland with your Systemmates, but stronger if you practice it. Of course, this space is imaginary, but it feels real and more than natural if you keep at it long enough.
       

      *Warnings*



      This overtime, if allowed, can become a very personal process. Be sure it's someone you feel safe about that wont abuse it or use it for any agenda other than what it's intended for. If you give consent, it's fine, but remember that you are always in control of your situation in 3rd Space. Don't allow anyone to make you feel uncomfortable. If they harass you, make moves on you you're not okay with, or do anything in any way that makes you feel unsafe or demeaned, it's as simple as closing the conversation. If they somehow continue, please let someone available know and block communication. This is not a common occurrence, but it's good to be stated otherwise. Also, please don't give personal information away. Play it safe, guys.


       
       

      How it works:


       
      Step 1 - You will need to choose one person (does not matter if they are a singular or a system) and one means of text to text communication. This can include anything from Skype (my most recommended, even if it's glitchy, it feels more "private" than most other programs and most natural for this) to facebook, to googlehangouts, to Discord. Anywhere you can type "/me" is best (so, avoid facebook if possible). "*"'s are okay, but I've always felt the "/me" works better, because your name pops up and then you can follow it with an action, example:
       
      ----"/me Nee sits on the singular bench at her park and waits for Aigle to appear. She crosses her legs and leans back against the slatted wood and looks up at the vast blue sky. She watches puffy and misshapen clouds roll by before quickly looking ahead at the sounds of Aigle's voice calling out to her. Smiling, she says with a smooth tone, "What took ya so long?" ----- would become "Nee sits on the..." rather than, "*Nee sits on the singular park bench...*. "/me" actions look more like a flowing book to me, rather than *'s, but this will come down to your personal preference as well as the other party's. Just a fair warning that if you use two different action types, it may be a little distracting and make it harder to get immersed in it. After all, this is supposed to play out like a book two people are writing at once. How would you feel if a book switched around from different font styles, tenses, and wordings every couple of sentences for no apparent reason? It'd be distracting, to say the least.
      If you cannot find someone to do this with (Ie: a friend that knows about your system-ness), you could always ask around the community. I'd just suggest showing them this guide if they haven't seen it already so you're both on the same page. I also suggest only 2 people at the start. More than that and it may become a little hectic to manage.
      Note: No Tulpa, no problem! Hosts/originals can do this completely by themselves as well as vocal (or able to communicate) tulpas/plurals/multiplies/alters/everybody. Heck, you can do this practice without even making it about Tulpas in the first place. A lot of LDR couple's do something similar to this.
       
      Step 2 - Now that you have someone to try this with and a platform to do so on, the next step will be to figure out where to start as well as get over any initial awkwardness. It'll fade away in time if you do this frequently, but it can seem odd in the beginning to some. Most of all with someone you might not know very well. Like with Tulpa work, you have to find a way to believe in it, even if the process is almost roleplay, it doesn't matter. You're both (or few) are doing this together. I can say from experience that after a while, it's real to you as it should be. It's like crossing a bridge to meet up in the middle between two islands to socialize, interact, learn, explore, and feel the company of another with you no matter where you are in the world. Again, a lot like Wonderland with your Systemmates. Over the years, 3rd Space interaction probably saved my life when I was without local friends for years. It blurs the line between long distance and local interaction. If you are lonely in real life or have a hard time socializing, I very much suggest 3rd Space method, just don't use others solely to make yourself feel better. It's about them, too. The text that reads "he/she wraps their arms around you and hugs you tightly" will feel real. You may or may not feel it physically, but you will know it's there. Heck, you can even just sit down and watch TV together in the same room (share the link and count down to watch it at the same time), eat popcorn, have a PJ party, magic duel, build skyscrapers and castles together, fly dragons, you name it. It's like sharing a semi-lucid dream once you know how to do it, so do whatever your heart desires (as long as it's consented by everyone involved). I had times many years ago where I more or less unstable. To dig a little personal, this came out in the form of Tenebre. Specifically, "Old Tenebre" as we call that time now. Tenebre's reformed now, but she was very unstable back then, unpredictable, and harmful. With the help of other's (plurals and singulars), we got through that time and one day the subconscious just went "poof" with Tenebre and suddenly she was as stable as any of us here, seemingly having a new role given from the submind now that "Old Tenebre" was no longer needed to keep some sort of balance. We then did the same for others. It was a learning experience.
       
      This is a detailed and very specific way it can be helpful, but it sure did save me more than a few times. If you're having trouble with isolation, this could really help you as well as social anxiety. You're not meeting up physically, but you still are meeting up and having to interact, but what's more cool than doing that and being able to ride knight's horses and battle dastardly villains at the same time?
      Just like they say with Tulpas in Wonderland, you'll be having incredible, hilarious, and touching memories for years to come and hopefully make some great friends along the way. I mean, heck, my girlfriend who is a System lives with me and every now and again we go to different rooms to meet up with Skype on 3rd space. There's really not something else like it.
       
       
       

      Benefits


       

      - The first one is easy. Excellent Visualization practice. Without knowing it for years, this process is what created and built my Wonderland for me. 3rd space interaction required a place to meet up, therefor, required a real, visualized location to do so. My Wonderland is very basic, but has certain aspects that are very detailed. It's white grounds meets the horizon to meet a white sky and goes on and on and on. However, we have a house, we have a park, we have a broken down city, we have a bathhouse, we have our own individual worlds, and we can hold our our hand and create anything from fire to landscapes. It may not always stick, but with enough forcing it will. Bring others into that mix and you have someone outside of yourself to bounce off of, who if you both allow, can create. Again, they do not enter your mind, but they describe what they are doing (as well as you for them) to you and you imagine it happen in real time. This creates a wonderful technique for you and another to help improve visualization, imagination, and other practices that can help you with Tulpa making. It teaches you to visualize the way fiction book reading does. You read it, you hear it in your mind, you visualize it! Only difference now is that you're half of the writer, half other writing process. That control and practiced ability can seriously benefit you with your Tulpa forcing, visualization, and possible even imposing (something I'm obsessed with).



      Note: I do not suggest dropping all other practices for this. This is a great side/main activity, but to help with it even more  I still suggest meditation to help increase clarity in visualization and whatever else helps you along your journey.


       

      - Second, improved writing skill. There is only so much you can do and so far you can go with poor writing skills. This includes spelling of critical words (google is your friend in this), grammar, punctuation, and the ability to describe the world around you as it flows and breathes. That last one is something you learn as you practice (heck, my chat logs from a few years ago were pretty awful), but now-a-days it's important to me that if I'm in 3rd space with someone, I can build the world and give it life so that what we experience together and can bounce of of each other easily. The best experiences (and results) come out of that. It's okay to not be perfect or even great at it, but I will say that typing like I did above to then get a response of "Aigle walk to Nee and waves, "hi." and sits." is disheartening, because it adds nothing to the world around you and you can't build anything off of it to reply with. It just stops there. Try to be in the mindset of a writer, not your normal facebook chat with casual friends. You're giving life to a in-between Wonderland. Make it yours and make it fun and immersive!~


       
      - Third, decreased sense of isolation and loneliness. As I said before, 3rd space interactions probably is why I'm still here today. There was a long, seemingly endless dark period of 8 - 9 years where when I was a kid, disability hit me in waves over the years, adding to the pile. This made it increasingly difficult to go out and make friends with people my age or anybody. Shortly after it started is when I started being in long-distance-relationships. I didn't know at the time I was teetering on the 3rd Space interactions that I'd know today. Sure, there was simple building blocks of it like, "/me cuddles you" or "/me kisses you", but nothing like trying to write a book. It wasn't until sometime after I met my ex did that world building aspect come into play. My ex was the first plural I had ever met (more or less besides myself, not really sure where I was at the time). Through 4 - 5 years of interaction between his System and mine, we all grew as people/beings and had hundreds of different experiences, good and bad. Then, it continued with my now Gf and we've grown together as well. You can do this with more than just one person. We wouldn't be the same at all if it wasn't for those interactions. Which leads me to my next point...
       
      - Fourth, Active/Passing forcing made easier/more engaging. I'll be frank and say this probably isn't the same for everyone, but I have a good feeling that 3rd Space interaction could really, really help those trying to force those in their system or soon-to-be. We started out pretty basic, but throughout the years of 3rd Space, we formed into much more life-like individuals that we probably never would have without it (sounds like forcing, doesn't it?). Granted, that's because we had no idea there was this practice or community of people like us. I'm not saying 3rd Space is your key to success, it's not, but it could prove to be a very nice and entertaining lock pick.  ;)
       
      - Fifth, Self-exploration/Learning about oneself. From the example about "Old Tenebre" and that being years into the process, you can probably only imagine the possibilities you'll learn about yourself (and others) when engaging in 3rd space, similar as you may from doing so with your Systemmates in Wonderland. This is why I want to stress the point again that you want to engage in 3rd space with someone that you like, not someone that seems sketchy or in it for their own (probably poor-intended) reasons, just because you don't want to keep searching for someone else. Again, you are not in danger. This does not cause actual possession or give them the ability to harm you, but even still try to cause yourself the least amount of trouble you can. 3rd Space can stay like a casual hangout forever and that is more than fine, but it does bring you and another person(s) closer than distance normally can on its own. So, be aware you may form bonds (or may not) if you're at this for a while. So, be wise about who you want to invite into yourself with. As long as you don't go throwing yourself at strangers, singing and frolicking, asking people to meet you inside of your head, I'm sure you'll be fine.
       
      And that concludes it! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me in the comments and I will do my best to answer them.
       
      Disclaimer: If this somehow, in same way, becomes a negative experience for you, please use common sense and keep your wits about you. I won't accept blame for each and every situation that goes south, though if you use the tools I said above, this is unlikely to happen.
       

      Happy exploring!~ 


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