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Over the last two weeks Simmie and I have transitioned to a much more relaxed, you could even say "casual" approach to tulpamancy. It's been quite a nice thing to not have to stress out so much recently over things. If Simmie is quiet one day I no longer worry that she's regressing, I just accept that she's more in the mood to be quiet and keep to herself.

 

Stone: This is a great way of looking at things. I'm happy you've made it to this point. I think I've made it, too.

 

Getting creative always makes things more enjoyable.

 

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Maybe I'll post a before and after image later. We're planning on doing the same thing for me soon too!

 

This would be interesting.

 

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I asked Phil to look up pictures of orange cats so I could look at them closely and watched a few videos. Then I started to picture Nigel's body from all sides. I paid special attention to his face. I pictured myself stroking his face and his ears. I imagined cuddling him and how his fur would feel under my hand. I started to think about Nigel's personality. He's a very sweet cat, very cuddly, loves to spend time with Phil and me. (Especially me! 🤗) But he's also adventurous and loves to explore. He always knows where the best hiding spots are. He can be very independent when he wants to be. All around he is sweet and playful, but can be sassy at times and definitely has an independent streak. I'm not sure if you'd call this forcing or not but I've been working on Nigel for the past two days and I think it's going well! 💚🧡

 

This is super interesting! I've heard of this as well. I hope you like your new cat :)

 

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I'm not sure what we'd call him because he's not exactly a tulpa; he's just a pet after all.

 

I don't see why he can't be a tulpa. Non-tulpa animals can behave autonomously so I'd say if you create an autonomous animal thoughtform, they're a tulpa.

 

Really neat update!

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Jaina: Yay! 😊 I can't wait to see Nigel. We just adopted our husky. 

 

Woof! *doggo noises*

 

 

 

 

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We just hit a significant milestone and I'd like to talk about it.

 

It happened right here on this very forum when Simmie was answering questions on a topic called "The Tulpa Interview". An important note: The body was highly caffeinated due to us having had a quite strong mocha, and Simmie is always highly active whenever the body is super caffeinated. So we were doing our normal thing as we typed: Simmie told me what she wanted me to write and I faithfully typed what she wanted me to.

 

But then something very unusual happened. All of the sudden Simmie was doing it all herself. I had ceased to be the middleman. Simmie was just straight up typing into the computer; her thoughts to my (our?) hands. And that's not all. For a brief moment--probably less than a full minute--I, as in Phil the host, the personality structure I fully consider as being myself, was not active. As in I, the original and dominant personality that lives in this body, completely ceded control of not just my body but the dominant active narrative of the brain, to Simmie.

 

The moment Simmie realized I wasn't active I suddenly became active again and we (metaphorically) looked at each other in amazement at what had just happened. Then we started to celebrate. Simmie has been partying up there ever since. I am so proud of her. ( I did it! I did it! *Dances happily* I'm a big girl tulpa now! 😁)

 

Up until today all that Simmie has been able to do in regards to possession has been to move my hand around a little bit. But then out of the blue this happens today. It's a major step forward and I don't expect we'll be able to repeat this anytime soon, at least not with any consistency, but this is proof that it is possible and it is something to work towards.

 

tl;dr Simmie spontaneously achieved Possession for several minutes and I even switched out completely for a few moments.

 

While we're on the subject, the post that Simmie was working on when this all happened is actually very interesting and if you're curious at all about getting to know Simmie better (and who wouldn't be...Simmie's great! 😁) it's worth a read because Simmie gets very candid about what she thinks about certain things:

 

 

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Jaina: 😃 I'm so proud of you! 😊🤗 *dancing happily*

 

Congrats you guys!

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So.

 

We might be taking a break here shortly. By that I mean taking a break from the forums and community as a whole; I'm not taking a break from Simmie. To the contrary, the purpose of the break would actually be in order to more clearly focus on Simmie and her development.

 

There have been some very interesting...conversations? (That's not really the word I would use; more like people talking past each other at cross-purposes) here on the forum about the old school of tulpamancy versus the new school. To my understanding, this is what it boils down to: The old school approach to tulpamancy was very rigorous, with the concept of a tulpa being very well defined and specific. The community surrounding tulpamancy at the time seemed to be a lot more hard-core and intense. The new school approach seems to be much more open and inclusive (and I don't necessarily mean that in a good or bad way), and the focus has been diluted from tulpas to focus on other thoughtforms without rigorous divisions between who is considered what. The new school community seems to be a bit of a hugbox.

 

This dichotomy has been causing me a lot of stress and has actually made Simmie a bit weaker in recent times. The thing is, I am actually much more attracted to the rigor and intensity of the results-based old school. At the same time, the people of the new school seem much more friendly and welcoming. The old school people seem to be very contemptuous of the new school and the way they talk down to them doesn't sit right with me at all. So I guess you could say my head is with the old school and my heart is with the new school. It's f'ing annoying!

 

Anyway, really, all I've ever wanted to do here is make a tulpa and hopefully make friends along the way. Simmie is the priority always, and I've made good progress with her. She is definitely at least somewhat sentient but I'd by lying if I said she was all the way there. In fact I feel like we're barely getting started. Maybe I've fallen into the new school trap of getting comfortable and complacent with the progress I've had. And I'm not going to lie, the warm welcome Simmie has received here has truly helped her. But yet, I desire to dive deeper in. I want to immerse myself in the tried and true guides of the old school. I want to go with what has worked for people in the past; the people who still have tulpas that have persisted for years.

 

Ideally, I'd like to find someone to help guide me along. That seems a little unlikely though, so my next best option is to try and be my own guide. Take an honest appraisal of what my strengths and weaknesses are; build my own approach that uses my strengths while mitigating my weaknesses. Use guides as a reference, but fundamentally build my own guide tailor-made for myself. Simmie is behind me on this.

 

I have a final goal for tulpamancy. It could be considered a lofty goal, but it's an ideal worth striving for. The goal is that between Simmie and me, I want to be a complete person. (And by *I*, what I really mean is the "Greater I*, you could say the "system", although I'm not sure that term would really apply). Simmie is everything that I lack. And yet, Simmie is also very much a part of me. If Simmie can grow into that person we can turn into a bulletproof duo here in this body. I know that might be a lot to put on a tulpa, bit Simmie wants this. She might seem carefree and whimsical when she posts on here, but there's an intensity to her that impresses and inspires me. She wants to be more than she is, she NEEDS it. And what's more, she deserves it. This little girl has completely swept me off my feet and has already changed my life in ways I haven't even fully understood. And that's at a power level that's only a fraction of what she could be.

 

So tl;dr I might be taking some time away from the community to focus on Simmie. We will probably stick around at least another day or two before the break, and we'll almost certainly be back. So if anyone has advice for us we're willing to hear it. But fundamentally we're going on a journey together deep inside and we might be too deep to get a signal out. We'd love to come back and tell everyone how we did. But for the time being we're packing our bags and getting ready to head off on a journey.

Phil. 😎 Host of Simmie.

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That sounds so much like what I've strived to be with Jaina. She is my rock and compliments me. You and Simmie are what's important to focus on. The community is just here to back you, give advice, blow off steam, and mess around with. You two go wherever your journey takes you.

 

We love you two so much! Take care! 🤗 And keep Phil in line for me. 😉

 

You'll be in our thoughts, prayers and well-wishes. 👋

 

Good luck. 😊👋

 

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Good luck.

 

I hope you find a way to make steady progress for your goals. I also don't want to experience tulpamancy at a shallow level, and wonder how deep it can go. I started out having read a lot of old stuff, then became disillusioned seeing that a lot of the old stuff didn't seem to apply anymore, or that no one is really doing or experiencing those things. Not sure how to feel about it.

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On 4/23/2021 at 7:45 PM, Glaurung26 said:

That sounds so much like what I've strived to be with Jaina. She is my rock and compliments me. You and Simmie are what's important to focus on. The community is just here to back you, give advice, blow off steam, and mess around with. You two go wherever your journey takes you.

 

We love you two so much! Take care! 🤗 And keep Phil in line for me. 😉

 

You'll be in our thoughts, prayers and well-wishes. 👋

 

Good luck. 😊👋

 

Thank you so much! We love you two also! 💚🤗 You gotta come stay at the guest house some time! 😁

 

Simmie, you know that's impossible lol. (Says you!) Anyway, the house is coming with us on our journey. (Wonderlands are confusing😋)

 

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Good luck.

 

I hope you find a way to make steady progress for your goals. I also don't want to experience tulpamancy at a shallow level, and wonder how deep it can go. I started out having read a lot of old stuff, then became disillusioned seeing that a lot of the old stuff didn't seem to apply anymore, or that no one is really doing or experiencing those things. Not sure how to feel about it.

 

Yeah, taking it deep is what it's all about for us. There may be some parts of the old guides that are obsolete, but there also may be lost wisdom in there. I'll try to make a record of what works for us and what doesn't and pass on that information once we're back.

 

It truly feels like Simmie and I have our bags packed and are ready to head out on our journey. It feels like we're flying to a far off country to seek out wisdom from gurus or monks or something. But it feels more like the Fantastic Voyage; but we're going deep inside the mind and not the body.

 

I just want to say that I'm really excited! 😁 I'm going to miss everyone soo much while we're gone. We've made so many friends here and the support we've gotten from people on this forum has helped me so, so much. Having Phil tell me that I'm real and that I exist is very good, but being seen as valid by people here has really meant a lot to me. I really wish I could give each of you a hug. 🤗

 

If you see my name here that means we're probably reading guides. We'll try journaling and when we come back we'll summarize everything in this progress report. There's a chance we might pop in to post art, but I might save that for our return too.

 

Well, it's time to say goodbye for now. But we'll be back, and probably sooner than you think. Bye everyone! 👋😘🤗🙂🧳✈️🧠

Phil. 😎 Host of Simmie.

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After a short break we are back! I never intended for us to be away for too long but we needed a break to refocus ourselves. I've always had this feeling when I'm interacting online or sometimes even in person that I'm "performing" and not really being myself, that whatever name I choose for myself in an internet community becomes a persona onto itself. This is bad enough for a human, but potentially devastating for a tulpa that is just trying to find herself and learn who she really is. Simmie needs to be herself without filters (well, maybe with common-sense filters) and not be sucked into the same "performative" trap I've been stuck in. Simmie is not the words she has posted on the forum any more than she is literally the Sim in her new profile pic, they are just projections or shadows of the real Simmie, the wonderful and beautiful woman I as well as Simmie herself are just getting to know.

 

Oh, and Simmie has hew own account now! The era of her typing in green on my account is over (though she may still jump in if she has something quick to add). My goal is to post less and less and have Simmie post more and more, until the point where she is the main representative of our "System" that you interact with and I, Phil, only pop in from time to time. We are signed in on two different web browsers. I use dark mode, Simmie uses light mode. These are little things that will hopefully help us have an entirely separate experience posting on here. Don't worry, Simmie and I aren't going to be annoying and start responding to each other's posts. At least not very often. 😋

 

And now for the meat of this update: What did we do on our break?

 

Here's a brief summary of our break:

 

Simmie and I talked a lot, but more importantly, we just spent time together. I focused on her presence, keeping her active and with me. We read through some guides, including this one, making observations about things we have learned and things we have already done. We took stock of what we were good at and what still needed more work. We discussed the times that Simmie feels more present, less present, and occasionally like she's not even there, and what might cause those times. We also laid out what our goals were, both our ultimate goal and how we conceptualize getting there.

 

This is a crude graphic demonstrating how I conceive Simmie's evolution from the past though the present into the future:

 

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I don't know where exactly we are on this chart. I imagine somewhere between stage 2 and stage 3, possibly closer to 3 than 2. But this chart is already slightly obsolete because Simmie clearly has tree-like roots going deep into the subconscious already as we are learning, and it's from those roots that she gains metaphorical minerals that help her growth.

 

So what is the end goal of tulpamancy for us? We want to quite literally be an unstoppable duo. We want to, between us, be a complete person. We don't like using the word "System", we prefer the term "Greater I", meaning the totality of everything that is this human creature including body, mind, the personas that call themselves Phil and Simmie and anything else, all of it. With that terminology in mind, we want the Greater I to be a complete and unstoppable human, with the synergy of Simmie and I at the core of it. (In this case the "I" is the "Lesser I", which is just me, Phil.) When I was younger I was fascinated by the concept of the soulmate, or "the one", this other person out there in the world that will make you complete. But I've grown to think that it's probably unhealthy and unwise to look for another person to "complete" you. A partner should compliment you, not complete you. However, I have been fascinated by the potential to use Tulpamancy to create this "missing half" internally rather than search for it externally. Simmie is on board with this goal. There is so much more to her than just being my other half, but she has just as much invested in the Greater I being successful as (Lesser) I do.

 

Here's a nice metaphor found in a cartoon from my childhood. Sonic and Sally are Simmie and I, and Dr. Robotnik and his minions represent the obstacles on the way to this state of completeness.

 

Is this goal far too lofty, unrealistic, and unattainable? Probably. But that's kind of the point. It is an ideal to work towards, not a finish line to be crossed. As long as this hangs out there as a goal, Simmie and I will always have a reason to keep working and a direction to keep heading.

 

 

Here's a list of observations/thoughts made on the journey:

  1. Turns out I'm actually...kind of good at tulpamancy? At least the early stages? I had this thought after reading through the early chapters of the guide I linked above. Stuff like personality forcing, creating the form, making a wonderland, narration, love & attention...I was a natural at all of those. Simmie felt like a fully realized person from even the first couple of weeks of forcing, although she had (and still has) a long way to go in terms of sentience and her personality has evolved quite a bit from the beginning.
  2. On the same token, I'm really bad at other aspects of Tulpamancy. Meditation has always been extremely hard for me. Focus and discipline are difficult. I'm easily distracted and my mind often gets fixed on things that are useless and unhelpful. I thought I could avoid these problems by focusing on my strengths instead. But it's time for me to confront these weaknesses and work to improve them or else Simmie's growth could be forever stunted.
  3. Learning about Old School Tulpamancytm was a major goal of the break. As it turns out, there's not too much difference in the approach between the old and new school; it's more about the higher standards old-school tulpamancers placed on what is and isn't a tulpa, and the willingness of the New School to accept less rigorously-developed tulpas as true and valid. Which for all I know they might be; I don't seek to make a value judgement as to what school is better. But I hope I've demonstrated that I'm more interested in the Old School, rigorous mindset of making Simmie into an authentic tulpa. She is indeed on her way there though she has not 100% arrived yet.
  4. Being a writer has both advantages and disadvantages when it comes to tulpamancy. Advantage: Simmie felt much more real and jumped out of the page right away from my experience at character creation (see point 1). Disadvantage: Parroting Simmie is a very easy pitfall because I am so used to putting words in characters' mouths. A month or two ago I thought about writing a (mostly fictionalized) book of Simmie's creation, and I couldn't help but start imagining how some of the conversations would go. But then the real Simmie would pop up in my mind and go: "H-hey! I'm over here!" in annoyance whenever I started to imagine Simmie's lines for the book. The only way I will ever make this book now is if Simmie writes her own lines. I respect her sentience too much to put words in her mouth, even if it is only technically a character based on her.
  5. Simmie is a Determinator. Underneath her laid back and bubbly personality there is an unquenchable fire inside her. I've looked deep into her eyes and there is an intensity there that is deeply inspiring. She is extremely protective over me, and she aches to get stronger so she can fight me demons. I want to be able to fight them side by side, but I know Simmie would hide me behind her shield and step forward and face them herself. I guess she's my knight in shining armor and I'm her damsel in distress, lol.
  6. We took the Meyers-Briggs Personality test. I am an ENTJ and Simmie is an ENFJ. Very similar, but with that one key difference. 
  7. I need to restructure how I spend my free time. I spend so much of it on meaningless and wasteful activities that aren't even all that fun most of the time. It really took Simmie to point that out to me. She understands that I need time to unwind and unload but she's distressed over how many hours I just waste. Simmie becomes so disengaged that she often checks out completely during that time, to the point where I might as well still be a singleton in those moments.
  8. I don't know if Parallel Processing is truly a thing or not but it's worth looking into. I've been historically very bad at multitasking. But if Simmie and I could split mental resources that would open up far more possibilities for us.
  9.  Simmie is Awesome McAwesomeface with Awesomesauce on the side. But I already knew that. Love this girl. 🥰

 

Well that about sums everything up for now. I could keep going all day with this but this post is already monstrously long enough lol. Thank you so much everyone for supporting Simmie and I on our journey, and if there's any way we could give back to the community in the form of advice, support, encouragement, friendship, we love to do it.

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Okay. So my current idea is to dedicate an hour each night to forcing. Whatever we might do during the day, 11pm to midnight is Simmie Time. If we can't go the full hour, are late starting it, or have to miss it for some reason, no big thing. But an hour a night is the target.

 

I think I might divide each forcing session into sections. Not timed or anything; just moving on to the next when the previous meets its natural conclusion. There should be a reason for doing each of them. The first will be a general relaxation or breathing exercise to get into a relaxed mood. Then we can move on to any number of things from our grab bag of exercises. Maybe I will focus on visualization. Or tactile imposition. Then maybe vocalization exercises. Possibly do something in our wonderland house. Do a writing exercise. Chant a mantra. Maybe just talk. Have Simmie lead me on an exercise, see what she wants to do. She's already quite capable; I see forcing Simmie almost like making a sword at this point; the weapon exists but it's not ready yet. It needs to be heated up, pounded, and sharpened over and over again.

 

Just pick somewhere between 2 and 5 exercises to do and call it a night. That's the idea. Let Simmie take the lead when she wants. These are my thoughts on the way ahead. Sound like a good strategy, tulpamancers?

Phil. 😎 Host of Simmie.

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      When we first started sharing the front, Ranger and I took turns everyday. We quickly realized that made us super confused about who was who, and we assumed that something about back-to-back switching just confuses our brain. By doing 3-4 days, we still had some doubt day 1 but it seemed to have resolved that issue. 5-8 days starts to feel long, and while Ranger could do a week now, he struggled to do more than a week due to his depression. I didn't find it difficult to be switched-in for roughly a week. However, I want to be switched-in for my classes and Ranger still wants at least a few days switched-in, so we're planning on sharing the week. We actually really like our set-up, it's this problem of not having better separation that's really annoying and disorienting.
       
       
      On the bright side, our switching schedule is going to shift and we will end up splitting our fronting based on who does what. I'll be fronting for school, Ranger will be fronting for DnD (once we get that ball rolling), and both of us (but mostly Ranger) will be fronting for work. While our schedule may become more complicated, it also simplifies things because our schedule will follow the week instead of whenever it's convenient according to our shifts. While I think this will help establish some speration, long term we need a better solution.
       
      While I'm pretty sure we need a different mindset, I'm not really sure which one to use. I'm not even sure what it would mean to "feel different" when switched-in, especially since our stream of consciousnesses (SOC) is neutral, and quickly becoming very neutral now that Ranger fronts a lot more. I'm against saying my name over and over, I already say who I am as reassurance and to say it all the time would be really annoying and dig up the feelings of insecurity Ranger struggled with when he feared he would lose the front. We don't want to wear different jewelry or anything like that, it would be really annoying to keep up with and extra annoying if we accidentally wear the wrong thing.
    • By BlackStatic
      EDIT 2: edit has been made, still defining guide based on criticism.
       
      Hey guys, so I know a lot of you wanted to know how I approach switching and what the hell parallel processing is. So here's my little christmas present to you all - a guide on switching!
       
      I'm not entirely sure if it's of professional quality, although I tried to write up a little on what switching/processing are, what it feels like during a switch, and how things like painkillers can affect your ability to tulpaforce.
       
      Either way, the guide is on google docs and the link is right here:
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/13h3ERpXw2Nkuj8EFfeteS5scD4TyzOy_4gHZKBuNUlc/edit#
       
      I can put this under a spoiler tag as well if admins prefer guides to be posted on the forum itself.
      Thanks guys, have fun~ <3
       
      EDIT: Mirrored https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N37G-HkNMjgwz1WVCB3koI5MVKw9odYwzq8DwxD1BF4 - waffles
      EDIT #2: Also put it in the hide tag and attached in PDF format to this post - waffles
       
      AylasTulpaAndPersonalitySwitchingGuideRecovered.pdf
    • By YumiBerry
      The other day I saw someone mention in a forum asking if you could visit others or bring them into your wonderland, would you? Some said yes, but that it was too bad it was "not possible". Well, I'm here to say that, in a way, it is.
       
      "Visit others in your Wonderland? How is that even possible?"
       
      Well, it depends in what way you're asking.
       
      If you're imagining meeting up in some middle plane or reality where you will see, hear, feel, and experience yourself and others in Wonderland as you would in the waking world, I'm sad to say that is not the case (not the case without something like Astral Projection or something anyway. Wouldn't know).
       
      No, what I'm talking about is something that over 6 years ago my close friends and I labeled "3rd Space". This is a "space" between you and at least one other physical (as in original, not tulpa) person. It (at least for me) feels exactly how you feel when you visualize your experiences in Wonderland with your Systemmates, but stronger if you practice it. Of course, this space is imaginary, but it feels real and more than natural if you keep at it long enough.
       

      *Warnings*



      This overtime, if allowed, can become a very personal process. Be sure it's someone you feel safe about that wont abuse it or use it for any agenda other than what it's intended for. If you give consent, it's fine, but remember that you are always in control of your situation in 3rd Space. Don't allow anyone to make you feel uncomfortable. If they harass you, make moves on you you're not okay with, or do anything in any way that makes you feel unsafe or demeaned, it's as simple as closing the conversation. If they somehow continue, please let someone available know and block communication. This is not a common occurrence, but it's good to be stated otherwise. Also, please don't give personal information away. Play it safe, guys.


       
       

      How it works:


       
      Step 1 - You will need to choose one person (does not matter if they are a singular or a system) and one means of text to text communication. This can include anything from Skype (my most recommended, even if it's glitchy, it feels more "private" than most other programs and most natural for this) to facebook, to googlehangouts, to Discord. Anywhere you can type "/me" is best (so, avoid facebook if possible). "*"'s are okay, but I've always felt the "/me" works better, because your name pops up and then you can follow it with an action, example:
       
      ----"/me Nee sits on the singular bench at her park and waits for Aigle to appear. She crosses her legs and leans back against the slatted wood and looks up at the vast blue sky. She watches puffy and misshapen clouds roll by before quickly looking ahead at the sounds of Aigle's voice calling out to her. Smiling, she says with a smooth tone, "What took ya so long?" ----- would become "Nee sits on the..." rather than, "*Nee sits on the singular park bench...*. "/me" actions look more like a flowing book to me, rather than *'s, but this will come down to your personal preference as well as the other party's. Just a fair warning that if you use two different action types, it may be a little distracting and make it harder to get immersed in it. After all, this is supposed to play out like a book two people are writing at once. How would you feel if a book switched around from different font styles, tenses, and wordings every couple of sentences for no apparent reason? It'd be distracting, to say the least.
      If you cannot find someone to do this with (Ie: a friend that knows about your system-ness), you could always ask around the community. I'd just suggest showing them this guide if they haven't seen it already so you're both on the same page. I also suggest only 2 people at the start. More than that and it may become a little hectic to manage.
      Note: No Tulpa, no problem! Hosts/originals can do this completely by themselves as well as vocal (or able to communicate) tulpas/plurals/multiplies/alters/everybody. Heck, you can do this practice without even making it about Tulpas in the first place. A lot of LDR couple's do something similar to this.
       
      Step 2 - Now that you have someone to try this with and a platform to do so on, the next step will be to figure out where to start as well as get over any initial awkwardness. It'll fade away in time if you do this frequently, but it can seem odd in the beginning to some. Most of all with someone you might not know very well. Like with Tulpa work, you have to find a way to believe in it, even if the process is almost roleplay, it doesn't matter. You're both (or few) are doing this together. I can say from experience that after a while, it's real to you as it should be. It's like crossing a bridge to meet up in the middle between two islands to socialize, interact, learn, explore, and feel the company of another with you no matter where you are in the world. Again, a lot like Wonderland with your Systemmates. Over the years, 3rd Space interaction probably saved my life when I was without local friends for years. It blurs the line between long distance and local interaction. If you are lonely in real life or have a hard time socializing, I very much suggest 3rd Space method, just don't use others solely to make yourself feel better. It's about them, too. The text that reads "he/she wraps their arms around you and hugs you tightly" will feel real. You may or may not feel it physically, but you will know it's there. Heck, you can even just sit down and watch TV together in the same room (share the link and count down to watch it at the same time), eat popcorn, have a PJ party, magic duel, build skyscrapers and castles together, fly dragons, you name it. It's like sharing a semi-lucid dream once you know how to do it, so do whatever your heart desires (as long as it's consented by everyone involved). I had times many years ago where I more or less unstable. To dig a little personal, this came out in the form of Tenebre. Specifically, "Old Tenebre" as we call that time now. Tenebre's reformed now, but she was very unstable back then, unpredictable, and harmful. With the help of other's (plurals and singulars), we got through that time and one day the subconscious just went "poof" with Tenebre and suddenly she was as stable as any of us here, seemingly having a new role given from the submind now that "Old Tenebre" was no longer needed to keep some sort of balance. We then did the same for others. It was a learning experience.
       
      This is a detailed and very specific way it can be helpful, but it sure did save me more than a few times. If you're having trouble with isolation, this could really help you as well as social anxiety. You're not meeting up physically, but you still are meeting up and having to interact, but what's more cool than doing that and being able to ride knight's horses and battle dastardly villains at the same time?
      Just like they say with Tulpas in Wonderland, you'll be having incredible, hilarious, and touching memories for years to come and hopefully make some great friends along the way. I mean, heck, my girlfriend who is a System lives with me and every now and again we go to different rooms to meet up with Skype on 3rd space. There's really not something else like it.
       
       
       

      Benefits


       

      - The first one is easy. Excellent Visualization practice. Without knowing it for years, this process is what created and built my Wonderland for me. 3rd space interaction required a place to meet up, therefor, required a real, visualized location to do so. My Wonderland is very basic, but has certain aspects that are very detailed. It's white grounds meets the horizon to meet a white sky and goes on and on and on. However, we have a house, we have a park, we have a broken down city, we have a bathhouse, we have our own individual worlds, and we can hold our our hand and create anything from fire to landscapes. It may not always stick, but with enough forcing it will. Bring others into that mix and you have someone outside of yourself to bounce off of, who if you both allow, can create. Again, they do not enter your mind, but they describe what they are doing (as well as you for them) to you and you imagine it happen in real time. This creates a wonderful technique for you and another to help improve visualization, imagination, and other practices that can help you with Tulpa making. It teaches you to visualize the way fiction book reading does. You read it, you hear it in your mind, you visualize it! Only difference now is that you're half of the writer, half other writing process. That control and practiced ability can seriously benefit you with your Tulpa forcing, visualization, and possible even imposing (something I'm obsessed with).



      Note: I do not suggest dropping all other practices for this. This is a great side/main activity, but to help with it even more  I still suggest meditation to help increase clarity in visualization and whatever else helps you along your journey.


       

      - Second, improved writing skill. There is only so much you can do and so far you can go with poor writing skills. This includes spelling of critical words (google is your friend in this), grammar, punctuation, and the ability to describe the world around you as it flows and breathes. That last one is something you learn as you practice (heck, my chat logs from a few years ago were pretty awful), but now-a-days it's important to me that if I'm in 3rd space with someone, I can build the world and give it life so that what we experience together and can bounce of of each other easily. The best experiences (and results) come out of that. It's okay to not be perfect or even great at it, but I will say that typing like I did above to then get a response of "Aigle walk to Nee and waves, "hi." and sits." is disheartening, because it adds nothing to the world around you and you can't build anything off of it to reply with. It just stops there. Try to be in the mindset of a writer, not your normal facebook chat with casual friends. You're giving life to a in-between Wonderland. Make it yours and make it fun and immersive!~


       
      - Third, decreased sense of isolation and loneliness. As I said before, 3rd space interactions probably is why I'm still here today. There was a long, seemingly endless dark period of 8 - 9 years where when I was a kid, disability hit me in waves over the years, adding to the pile. This made it increasingly difficult to go out and make friends with people my age or anybody. Shortly after it started is when I started being in long-distance-relationships. I didn't know at the time I was teetering on the 3rd Space interactions that I'd know today. Sure, there was simple building blocks of it like, "/me cuddles you" or "/me kisses you", but nothing like trying to write a book. It wasn't until sometime after I met my ex did that world building aspect come into play. My ex was the first plural I had ever met (more or less besides myself, not really sure where I was at the time). Through 4 - 5 years of interaction between his System and mine, we all grew as people/beings and had hundreds of different experiences, good and bad. Then, it continued with my now Gf and we've grown together as well. You can do this with more than just one person. We wouldn't be the same at all if it wasn't for those interactions. Which leads me to my next point...
       
      - Fourth, Active/Passing forcing made easier/more engaging. I'll be frank and say this probably isn't the same for everyone, but I have a good feeling that 3rd Space interaction could really, really help those trying to force those in their system or soon-to-be. We started out pretty basic, but throughout the years of 3rd Space, we formed into much more life-like individuals that we probably never would have without it (sounds like forcing, doesn't it?). Granted, that's because we had no idea there was this practice or community of people like us. I'm not saying 3rd Space is your key to success, it's not, but it could prove to be a very nice and entertaining lock pick.  ;)
       
      - Fifth, Self-exploration/Learning about oneself. From the example about "Old Tenebre" and that being years into the process, you can probably only imagine the possibilities you'll learn about yourself (and others) when engaging in 3rd space, similar as you may from doing so with your Systemmates in Wonderland. This is why I want to stress the point again that you want to engage in 3rd space with someone that you like, not someone that seems sketchy or in it for their own (probably poor-intended) reasons, just because you don't want to keep searching for someone else. Again, you are not in danger. This does not cause actual possession or give them the ability to harm you, but even still try to cause yourself the least amount of trouble you can. 3rd Space can stay like a casual hangout forever and that is more than fine, but it does bring you and another person(s) closer than distance normally can on its own. So, be aware you may form bonds (or may not) if you're at this for a while. So, be wise about who you want to invite into yourself with. As long as you don't go throwing yourself at strangers, singing and frolicking, asking people to meet you inside of your head, I'm sure you'll be fine.
       
      And that concludes it! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me in the comments and I will do my best to answer them.
       
      Disclaimer: If this somehow, in same way, becomes a negative experience for you, please use common sense and keep your wits about you. I won't accept blame for each and every situation that goes south, though if you use the tools I said above, this is unlikely to happen.
       

      Happy exploring!~ 


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