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Earlier this week was having a lot of head pressure due to extended periods of visualizing, so as the pressures became annoying and persistent enough, I thought I should address it.
I've noticed before that my head pressures are related to the way I was flexing my tongue muscles really hard and pressing it against my palate inadvertently.
I have tried many times visualizing without doing this and, it works momentarily but whenever I stop paying attention to my tongue, there it goes again pressing my palate really hard once I start to concentrate into the visualization. I only notice that I'm doing that after I already start to feel the head pressures. By that time it's too late and it's already bothering me.
So after two days of attempting to visualize with my tongue relaxed without success I thought that I should probably google that.
So there I go googling the terms "tongue" and "meditation" and I came across this:
Very weird, right? That's what I thought too.
Basically, they stick the tongue up into the nasal cavity above the palate and use that to aid the process of meditation.
So of course I went down this rabbit hole and found out that some people seem know how to do this naturally.
This girl is an example of someone that has this ability naturally:
Also other people report having head pressures identical to what we see in tulpamancy in this practice, here's an example of someone describing their head pressures in the context of Kriya meditation:
Described as "tension in the head that is somewhere between no pain and the pain you experience during a headache."
This seems to me like it's the same kind of head pressure we experience in tulpamancy. At least to me.
Also I forgot to mention that, they say THIS GIVES YOU IMMORTALITY.
Which, of course, is bullshit otherwise there would be 1000 year old yogis walking around.
Then I thought it would be a good idea to ask around here because, well to be honest, the people that practice this don't know how to explain it without anecdotes and dogmatic stories. Which is fine for spiritual people but I want to find what part is real and what part isn't. Or a deconstruction to find the line where the anecdotes end and the actual benefits of this practice begin. Or if there are any benefits at all.
Here is a small list of claims about this technique: (which I have absolute no idea if it's true or not)
-Helps you overcome hunger and makes it so that you go extended periods of time without food.
-Gives you access to DMT that is stored in your pineal gland. By licking it directly. (yeah gross, the girl in the video seemed to get very high from doing it, she even says she's high afterwards)
-The practitioner doesn't suffer from decay, disease and death. (this part I think it's flat out not true)
-Gives you immunity to snake poison. (This one I think it's sorta possible, because some snake poison triggers your immune response and the response of the body is what kills the person not the poison itself, so technically by controlling your immune response you would therefore not die from the poison)
So my questions are:
1-Does anybody else experience their tongue forcing up the palate unintentionally while visualizing or concentrating really hard?
2-If so, do you think this is related to Khechari mudra? Or is it just tension and I'm looking way too much into it?
3-Are those just stories and not meant to be interpreted literally? (If so people are doing a bad job at explaining that)
4-Is there something to this at all? Is it a practice worth looking into?
Just thought it would be cool to ask here, since if I asked on their forum they would either not tell me because it's a closed practice, or even if they did tell me I wouldn't understand because the vocabulary they use is very far removed from anything I can contextualize.
So what do you guys think? Is it all nonsense or not?
Hello! So far I have yet to have any such experiences in a normal wakeful state. The goal of this post is to collect information about this topic; no theory, only practical methods. I will start by listing some of the methods that I have tried so far:
a) By concentrating on my breath for 20 - 40 min I have been able to reach transcendental states and lose awareness of my body. I believe that If I pursue this course of action I will eventually be able to have an OBE, though it might take a long time.
b) Through meditation I have been able to turn off my sense of self and revert to just being conscious. One then notices that there is just a stream of perception and one could just alter it? - I don't know, I haven't succeeded yet.
a) OBE scripts on Youtube.
b) Self-hypnosis with autosuggestions, and hoping that if you snap your finger this time you might just go woosshh...
c) Whilst being in a deep trance, i.e. somnambulism or Esdaile state, inducing an OBE. I haven't been able to go this deep yet.
a) Waking up in the night and inducing an OBE - this one always work but I don't use this one often as I can't go back to sleep...
b) I assume lucid dreaming is insightful? - So, all methods of lucid dreaming.
c) Entering OBE's through hypnagogic or hypnopompic states.
a) Recently neo has posted about his experiences involving astral projection. To summarize, he recreated his body parts through imaginary sensations (tactile and visual) and consequently tricking his mind into thinking he was out of his body.
b) Sitting still for hours on end. I have tried sitting motionlessly for 3 hours without sleeping and I only got dissociated. The reason being, I was scared to fail so I didn't try; otherwise, I would get associated back because of the expected failure.
c) Imagining that you are ever so slightly rotating more and more, or moving up and down. - Has worked once.
d) Trying to slide out of your body through sheer willpower.
e) Hopping in a centrifuge.
a) Gradual possession.
b) Switching methods.
Ironically enough, it seems as though the harder you try, the harder it gets. After all, expectation triumphs will, and the more you will the bigger the downfall and the grimmer the expectation. Sigh...
This is only level one, however; just achieving an OBE is not enough. It needs to be consistent and eventually become as easy as breathing. I would also like to ask whether this is possible through practice, and if anyone has achieved this?
Hi! Renesmee here. So, today I created Rosalie (placeholder name). I introduced myself during an active-forcing session and then sent an email to an account I set up so I could email her for forcing. I'm feeling encouraged and optimistic. More reports as events warrant!
Hello! This is our sketchbook gallery. Here you will find pictures from my system, including drawings of me, tulpas, other headmates, and the dreamscape. I draw some things myself, other projects may be collaborations between me and Matt, Clu, or Shalkagi. I'm not quite into the switching phase yet. Usually, they talk to me as I do the drawing.
Here's our first entry! It's also on the ITT: We Draw Our Tulpas thread.
This is my first full visualization of Shalkagi. She started as an original character idea and began to form as a legit tulpa. I drew her face and body so I'd have an image to recall when narrating or forcing.
Shalkagi (who also spells her name as Sal'qagI) is a Klingon female. She's pretty tough and belligerent, as Klingons are. I consider this drawing here one of my best works so far. This drawing was done by me as the host, while working on the visualization process.
Notes on details:
On the hair on her left side, there appears to be a light spot. There, is a streak dyed neon purple. I didn't include the purple in this black-and-white drawing. The weapon she's holding is a traditional Klingon bat'leth. But she uses other weapons, including just fists and feet. The light metallic armor is just one of many things she wears. Pictures of other outfits will come later. The quote on top is written in tlhIngan Hol. She is saying: "My name is Shalkagi. I am a Klingon!" And this is the very first Klingon I've ever drawn!
I had lots of fun with this. Follow me for more!