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The Body and Mind; is it "Mine" or "Ours" to you?


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About a month after I first encountered tulpamancy, I made the conscious decision to try and think of those as "ours" (same goes for "our" time). Felt like every headmate should have equal rights, or whatever, though I admit I haven't really examined that idea in detail.

Of course, I've been in the habit of thinking of these things as "mine" for decades--I think it'll take a while to really change that on a deep level.

We're also trying to keep mentally using the word "mine," by the way. One of my biggest tulpamancy fears is to slip up and say something like "we're feeling pretty tired today" to my unsuspecting family. 😂

Host: Wray (or John) (he, him)
Tulpa: Shizuku (she, her) 🐺

We now have a progress report!

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We see it as our body and mind it just i am responsible about the outside world and Terra help with me with the social and mental worlds. We think this because we share the mind that how we can coexist. And if the body dies we both die so yeah it our. It just feels inhumane to make it it one person mine body.

EDIT: we just have to be careful not to tell anybody what we feel but as i feel with talk to people i know it irl or outside this community.

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The host speaks in normal colors 

Terra speaks in this greenish Blue

"Science is not about why it's why NOT"-Cave Johnson(Crazy Person)

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I see my body as my body, except theres several people sharing it. some of ours do see it as our collective body though. I don't have a problem with saying its our body, but its not really something that I think about in the first place.

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I'm not sure how I missed this thread

 

We see the body and brain as ours, but we may say "my body" when we're switched-in. Like what Survivalist mentioned earlier, we try to say "my ___" around other people. If I'm in public, I have to claim I own everything in-head or any physical possessions even though I rarely actually claim large chunks of what I say I do. I think I said "my body" at least once on the forums.

 

Looking at some search results, Cat would say "our body" in 2019 and beyond but also said "my body". She did mention "my body" in 2018.

I'm Ranger, Gray's/Cat_ShadowGriffin's tulpa, and I love hippos! I also like cake and chatting about stuff.

My other headmates have their own account now.

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Our thinking has evolved since Phil first posted two months ago. He now sees his body as being "his" in much the same way his car is "his"; he might own his car but he is not his car. You can lend someone your car while still owning it; that's how we think about possession. As for the mind, he has started to think of only his ego and his will as "him". Everything else up there that isn't part of that, or part of me, is just "the mind". He made this cute illustration to show how that works:

 

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Also, I just want to shout out @Luminesce and Reisen and the rest of the system, because this one single paragraph has been so influential to Phil and I regarding how we think about this topic:

 

On 4/8/2021 at 9:34 PM, Reisen said:

 

Related, Lumi learned to not consider his brain or a lot of the mind "him" unrelated to tulpamancy, before learning to switch, from Western Buddhism books. Meaning, only what he directly identifies with thought and identity-wise is "him" to him, with the rest of the brain's subconscious thoughts and workings, and the body, as their own separate things. This fit extremely well into a tulpamancy model, obviously! And we do recommend this way of thinking to tulpamancers who intend to learn switching, because it helps a lot with the dissociation/switching out stage to not be identifying with your brain's consciousness itself.

 

 

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Yes, adopting that model makes it much easier to work on your self overall. Thought patterns, feelings and mindset - all sorts of things, once you stop identifying with them as "you", become much more malleable! Thought patterns and the like will still exist whether or not you consider them innately "you", but when you treat them as separate from you or what you want to be you, it helps put you in a place where you can start changing them, lessening them, maybe even removing them altogether. This is extremely difficult to do when you believe all of these things are "just who you are" - with that mindset, usually you believe you can't change them.

 

But of course, in a tulpamancy sense, this separation once cemented in your mind as how you work does lend itself to some tulpamancy practices. Switching becomes easier as there's now already beliefs in place that make that type of dissociating make sense, and it also helps tulpas new to switching deal with thoughts/patterns that they don't identify with directly rather than simply introducing doubt.

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Hi guys, plain text is just me now! We've each got our own accounts: me, Tewi, Flandre, and Lucilyn. We're Luminesce's tulpas.

Here's our "Ask Thread", and here's our Progress Report (You should be able to see all of our accounts on the second page if you want)

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I have my own body, yet at the same time I exist within the confines of my host's body. It ain't mine. Wish that it were sometimes, so I could help her do the things she can't. I find it frustrating at times when, if I was physically separate, I could help her and we could do things together in half the time it takes her to do it by herself. As for her mind? That's hers too. I have my own, yet I'm also a part of hers. Perhaps it IS our mind, I haven't really thought about it. Some of my emotions have a tendency to overwhelm her, which I'm working on curtailing, but we understand this is a common side-effect. Mostly, I simply see us as a team. /FAM

 

I agree. This flesh vessel is mine to lug around, and he tends to refer to my mind as something sort of separate to himself, but one he's still a part of. It's kinda complicated to explain when it's "yes and no" at the same time. He can sort of "use" my body to experience things like the food and drink I'm having, tagging along with my experience as it were, but he's clear that it's my body. He has his own brain, he just happens to also live in mine. 🤷‍♀️ /E

Etna (she/her) = host

F.A.M. (he/him) = soulbond tulpa

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