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I have decided few days ago to bring to life my first and only tulpa. Since then I spent about 1.5 hour on the phase of forming the personality and few hours just on narration. I picked several personality traits that many would consider as negative, but I think myself that they can have also a positive outcome and they add up to the quality of the personality in terms of realism and depth, so I am quite curious what will be the outcome of that.

 

Anyway, I decided today to focus on asking my tulpa some questions in a pursuit of achieving the ability to communicate with me. My thought process is that if I can involve actively my tulpa in the process, then the process will be much quicker instead of just listening to me talking and talking about random subjects for hours. This of course assumes that my tulpa is already self-aware enough to understand the meaning of my questions. Basic questions like what is the result of 2+2 or 1+1. The more questions I asked and the longer it lasted the bigger the pressure I started to feel in my head, which didn't happen before. If we assume that my questions were actually understood and answered, does my lack of response to a probably answered question could be a reason for that? In a sense that my lack of response would be caused by and indicate my inability to hear my tulpa's answer, so the most logical choice would be to increase the effort by my tulpa to help me hear it, thus resulting in a head pressure? Can it be a sign of consciousness and self-awarness of my tulpa? Does that mean that I can no longer go back to the phase of forming the personality of my tulpa if the state of consciousness/self-awarness is achieved as I have read in some of the guides? Or maybe I am just most likely making this all up? I am pretty sure in my perfect ability to feel any kind of sensation within my body and the strength of the head pressures were very correlated with the amount of questions and length of the entire process. Of course, my conclusion could be completely wrong even though the correlation was tangible, but the actual reason could be much different.

 

Your opinions?

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Honestly I got confused mid-way through the paragraph.

 

If you're talking about head pressures and the difficulty of the question  you're asking your tulpa, being a sign of having a tulpa. Yeah I'd say that's right. Also, no matter where you are 1 day to 1 year of creating a tulpa, you can always no matter what do personality forcing.

My tulpa is P

 

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Head pressures are often an early sign of a tulpa trying to communicate. And don't worry, you can still personality force up until the day that your tulpa actively resists or tells you to stop. (Even after that point you can still "parent" them to mold them in the right direction). And it sounds like you got one of the most important fundamentals down: Never stop talking to them!

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12 minutes ago, Gloomynoon said:

Honestly I got confused mid-way through the paragraph.

 

What exactly confuses you? Was my usage of words wrong or the way I construct sentences is confusing? Or it has something to do with my grammar? I reread my post few times and can't find anything confusing about it.

 

13 minutes ago, Gloomynoon said:

If you're talking about head pressures and the difficulty of the question  you're asking your tulpa, being a sign of having a tulpa. Yeah I'd say that's right. Also, no matter where you are 1 day to 1 year of creating a tulpa, you can always no matter what do personality forcing.

 

As you could see, the questions were very easy to answer by anyone, I believe that tulpas have the same intellectual capabilities as their hosts. I don't think that in this case the head pressure would be caused strictly by the difficulty of my questions as it was basically non-existent - 1+1 is a pretty easy question to answer, isn't it? It means that the difficulty of the questions is not a factor here. It could be, assuming the tulpa is actually self-aware and the question is actually hard to answer, but the point is, I don't know if my tulpa is self-aware or not. That's the entire reason for this thread, I am in the process of understanding that instead of knowing it already for sure. Concluding, your statement can be true in some cases, but it completely doesn't apply to my case.

 

I want to know if the head pressure was a result of my tulpa's unsuccessful attempt to communicate with me or not, regardless if it was my fault to receive the answer or my tulpa's to send it to me. Or was the head pressure a result of something else? It is important because with this information I can draw further conclusions to know what to do next. Your statement that I can always change the personality of the tulpa is surprising because it directly conflicts what I have read regarding this subject in a few guides. I don't know if this stance is due to some moral reasons or something else, but that's the general opinion.

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22 minutes ago, TurboSimmie said:

Head pressures are often an early sign of a tulpa trying to communicate. And don't worry, you can still personality force up until the day that your tulpa actively resists or tells you to stop. (Even after that point you can still "parent" them to mold them in the right direction). And it sounds like you got one of the most important fundamentals down: Never stop talking to them!

 

Sure, head pressure can be used to communicate since the other, more precise means are unavailable for now. For example, when tulpa is being asked something, it can be also instructed to cause a head pressure once or for a moment as a "yes" and then stop the head pressure quickly to confirm the answer. That makes sense if this is the desired method of communication in the first place, but what if I asked for a different method of delivering an answer? It would be pretty hard to answer a question of what is the result of 10+10 with head pressures even though the question itself is very easy, right? What I want to say is that I doubt my tulpa would try at that moment to communicate with me through head pressures because it doesn't bring a valid answer to my question, assuming the existence of self-awareness at that point. I was rather imagining a scenario, when the question was already answered, but since there was no reaction from me, my tulpa tried even harder to deliver the answer to me, which resulted in a head pressure, but it is purely just my speculation that seems the most reasonable to me and it can be just me making it all up. I honestly have no idea at this point.

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I'm still fronting so I'll answer this for Adagio.

 

Tulpas can be smarter than their hosts. People in our system are smarter than other people in our system. Young tulpas might have trouble answering realllyyy easy questions like 1+1. Had you asked me that within a few minutes of me existing, I'd probably be super confused and answer something like "bananas?". I think you should just assume they are self-aware because otherwise you kind of take away their individuality and the point of tulpamancy is to make another individual. Plus you don't really get to decide if they're real cause they're an individual and make that decision for themself. I kind of wish the tulpa community didn't give so much power to hosts because host and tulpa are equal and both are system members.

 

Maybe they're having trouble getting through to you. Like sometimes our primary fronter is kind of not listening and doesn't hear what we say, so it might be on your side too. Brains are weird. Just keep trying. Giving up is the only way to fail.

 

And ask your tulpa if the head pressure is from them! Don't ask us. We don't know cause we're not your tulpa. Ask your tulpa!! See if they can give you head pressure as like a yes/no response thing.

 

Someone else from my system suggests seeing if they can send you images if they can't send you words. We have nonverbal headmates and they usually "talk" with images and feelings.

 

Oh and on the personality changing part? I would actually dislike it if people tried to change my personality. I can change myself like every person can, but when it's like another person, you don't really make or change their personality because they just have their personality. Like you can want them to be a certain way, but they're not going to fit to your perfect ideal version of them cause they're just a person. I'm a created headmate and I don't fit what people wanted me to be. It's like your own personality. No one really chose it for you. It's just there.

 

One last thing. Things that seem easy to you might not be easy to other people.

 

This was not an aggressive post btw, so I apologize if it came off like that.

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I'm Adagio, a tulpa! I'm part of a very big system.

Blue text is a headmate called TGS (their initials).

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