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[TB]

おhごおｄ

 

oh good, hope it isn't overcast at those times

 

hmm i typed a lot about my finances but decided to not send it because it's probably not worth talking about

Edited February 23 by TB

[Lucilyn]

just looked through new game releases on the Switch e-shop for like 40 minutes with our brother

on that and the other crappy games we see elsewhere -

 

there are so so many bad games in online stores these days

a lot of them are ~"dev's or devs' first game", which is great, and no reason not to try to make a little money for your time (if priced appropriately lol)

but soooooooo many others are just greedy/lazy people seeing making awful, copy-paste, asset flip, or otherwise low-effort games as a way to make money (ESPECIALLY on Switch where at least half of the games in the recent releases section are physically painful to bear witness to, with so much low effort asset flipping and even outright stealing)

 

thoughts on this: just the natural way of things really, the game industry is suffering because capitalism people are taking advantage of the opportunities they see, far more people just want money than want to contribute worthwhile art/experiences to the world

we don't blame people for making crappy games to try and make money, but we don't sympathize either - why should anyone buy the 175th version of an exact concept for a game, that is only the 94th best choice? you're lucky anyone does at all!

 

so we don't have any negative feelings about the current state of the game industry (for indie games anyway, for triple A games insert typical "capitalism bad, stop giving CEOs hundreds of millions of dollars and pay your workers instead" rant), a lot of people are saying this is the worst time in history to get into game development but we don't agree, there's just way more people making trash and so you can't get away with doing that and still making big bucks anymore, the trash market has become competitive!

 

but good games will still be popular and make money, as more and more people across the world get into gaming, and no one is saying "aw man there's so many bad games coming out these days, guess I won't buy Slime Rancher 2"

 

and frankly I think a lot of the people who think it's become "worse" to try and make games to make money are not respecting how much easier it's been for THEM to MAKE said games because of countless better tools, engines, and above all massive amounts of help and resources online, so they honestly aren't putting in the same work for their products that people did for similar products 25 years ago (all game devs from previous eras are legends and should be proud of the work they did)

 

anyways yeah making games is still perfectly fine, you just can't hop in and make guaranteed $$$$ like you could through the late 2010s as game development became absurdly easy and the resulting garbage heaps hadn't caught up yet

 

though did I mention CEOs and other higher-ups are still siphoning massive amounts of money that should be going to their workers? although that's the case across many fields of work and is not unique to video games

 

and again people who are just making games for fun or for practice are still cool, vidya games is art if you're intending for yours to be, so keep that up cool people

[TB]

interesting lucilyn. i didn't know people were saying now is the worst time to be making video games. Hm

 

good luck with your games when you get to that point, i'm sure you'll make something good

 

i just made I think a cool thumbnail drawing for a tayomi potentially painting I want to do. I'm so scared to try painting but I have the supplies now. I should yolo later

 

I just put on my phone alarms for my schedule for the day. The current rule is I don't have to fill the entire time slot doing the thing, I just have to make it a habit to start on those things at those designated times. I'm usually very very aversive to specific schedules like this, but I'm going to give it a more solid try and maybe it will work out. If I leave things to when it feels right to do so, that can work often but also often doesn't work depending on my mood and wellbeing

[Lucilyn]

officially speaking, it is the worst time to "get a degree in game design/etc. and try to get hired in the industry", mostly 'cus capitalism patterns dictate that now is the time to downsize to maintain profits, in conjunction with the whole inflation of games in the market and how so much meh stuff is being released

 

but like, for people who just wanna make games, it's never been easier and it's only gonna keep getting easier and easier to learn and to make cool looking stuff, so

 

kinda like trying to do art for money vs just trying to do art, the former is getting much harder but the latter is as easy as it's ever been (not getting as much easier as game making but how could it, really)

 

and there's something to be said for the success of people making games or making art without money specifically in mind, in some contexts they'll end up in better positions to make money eventually anyways lol

(hopefully that is where we fall, since we genuinely just want to make good games people enjoy)

Edited February 23 by Lucilyn

[TB]

I used to want to do art for videogames. Maybe I still will someday, but my biggest hope is a successful patron and to draw and animate the story of my characters and have them be endearing and lovable and well designed so people want to keep seeing them and feel for them. Also cool dbz art on the side I guess. I see some people do dbz and other stuff at the same time so it isn't unreasonable

 

I could also sell merchandise if I could figure that out

 

God building up the audience for all this is probably harder than even getting the drawing skill, though. I don't know where to start. I at least have an idea of how to get better at drawing, even if my confidence that I can pull it off is low

 

The like 14 year old who has 27 billion followers and makes money on patron on twitter, I talked to them about how they did it, they said they are just extroverted and became friends with a bunch of popular artists and got their stuff retweeted, and they also obviously draw superbly well for a kid, they draw superbly well for an adult even. For drawing I think they just said they use a lot of reference, and showed me their reference sheet on pureref or some similar program. They said they just steal bits and pieces from a dozen different things so none of it can be traced back and it becomes unique, which I believe is what any good artist probably does, as marc brunet emphasizes the importance of using reference all the time and says if you aren't using reference you aren't gaining any new information and thus aren't learning. Drawing from imagination doesn't really make you better, apparently. It's just a test of what you can currently do without help, I guess, but not even professionals choose to go without help most of the time. Drawing from imagination is just for fun and for things you've done a million times. As such I used a ref for my tayomi thumbnail. I changed the pose a little so it isn't totally stealing but it was a base for the idea of her pose. Poses throw me off though. It is hard to "change" a pose from a reference without making it suddenly not work or be natural anymore. As such it is like you have to steal it completely, but that is also bad. Idk how artists deal with that. I guess doing trillions of gesture drawings or something, but I feel like I don't learn from doing gesture drawings. Maybe I just didn't give gesture drawings a strong enough of a try to see improvement, but I feel like my gestures are about the same day after day and I'm certainly not consciously figuring anything out so if I am learning at all it is subconscious, and idk if learning is supposed to work that way

I told my senpai once I don't feel like I'm learning when I draw and they asked me what is learning even supposed to feel like. Well, I imagine it involves epiphanies and discoveries and then practicing on making these epiphanies and discoveries locked in so they feel natural to act upon. Coming upon new information that changes the way you look at things and do things. Maybe that isn't what learning is supposed to feel like though. Maybe it is just all subconscious and you don't notice it until a bunch of time passes, but that doesn't seem right to me. I imagine practice might be like that, as in training your hand eye coordination, but being able to draw a better gesture because you knew where to put the lines, rather than your ability to put lines where you want to, seems to be the former I explained, I think. To draw you need to know where to put lines, then you need to be able to succeed at correctly and attractively placing them there in the right way. One is dexterity and one is knowledge. I don't gain knowledge very well. I think I have decent hand eye coordination. I know for sure my hand eye coordination is tremendously better than when I started, and it isn't my hand eye coordination that is my problem very much. I could be way wrong but I would argue my hand eye coordination is even similar to my senpais... well probably not actually but it could probably get there without too much time if i tried really hard. Trying hard at gaining knowledge though... I'm like dumb and just don't get things as vague as what makes gesture work. It is too nebulous, complicated, and intuition based. Maybe I should say all of this in the art school discord and see what anyone has to say, but shorter so people actually read it

 

I hope that was readable, semi rant I guess. My happiness depends on successfully making living drawing the things I want and/or enlightenment, preferably both. Guess time to go through the hero's journey to get there. I don't care if AI becomes more advanced, there's still got to be a way to succeed at this. I don't see how AI prevents people wanting to support me because they like my drawings enough to want to see me do it full time, and/or get perks like maybe recordings of my process so they can also learn to do it themselves, when I actually have a process lol. There are a lot of things AI doesn't deliver. It isn't like I'm planning to make a living doing just commissions that people might be relunctant to pay for due to there being an AI that can make their prompt for them. There should be a irreplaceable human element and story involved, that AI can't tell, and maybe keychains of my characters or something people can buy, as I've seen japanese artist sell keychains and badges of their characters before. It is often furry merchandise though, lol

 

I'd actually prefer not to make money doing commissions but am willing to at least a little if necessary. I might ask my friend for a commission soon, after a month or two of being in the swing of things, or maybe this summer or spring. When I'm more consistently creating stuff he said he would boost me, so hope that helps. Also I need to get out of my shell and just maybe try talking to every artist I like and see if any respond, and if I can make more artist friends. The art school discord probably has advice on this too, as it is literally an art school with many of the people their planning to make drawing their living, and it has over 10,000 people in it I believe, so they can't all fail

Edited February 23 by TB

[TB]

Also as for AI, one of the dnd players I play with had an AI rendition of their character but apparently liked my style enough to actually pay 60 dollars for me to do a commission of their character to use as their portrait instead...

 

And it isn't like they were money bags and could easily pay for it either, I had to wait for them to get the money to pay me in the future and I just trusted they would since they are a friend of a friend, so they apparently wanted it that bad

Edited February 23 by TB

[TurboSimmie]

Good afternoon! 😊

[TB]

good afternoon. The pu-erh tea I bought smells like spinach. Wonder how it will taste

 

update: it tastes like spinach too

 

re-realizing that marc's study schedules advice working for 8+ hours a day, and he has a schedule for busy people that gives a schedule for 4+ hours a day. I gotta step my game up man I'm not a busy person. I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it I can do it

 

that's me writing on the chalk board for art school detention for not working hard and long enough, like bart simpson or something

 

interestingly, my dad said affirmations do not work for him unless he writes them down over and over. If he fills several notebook pages with a positive affirmation it will start to take affect where as reading it or saying it does not. Maybe I should try that

Edited February 23 by TB

[TurboSimmie]

For some reason I am reminded of Bart Simpson in detention writing on the chalkboard. 😆

[TB]

16 minutes ago, TurboSimmie said:

For some reason I am reminded of Bart Simpson in detention writing on the chalkboard. 😆

yeah I did mention that at the bottom of it lol