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40 minutes ago, TB said:

thing is i don't have a cup with me and idk where to get one, unless i went home to get one and that'd be annoying. im at work atm

 

there are ceramic bowls here though... i could heat water up in them maybe, but i fear they will be too hot to pick up and pour. maybe i can pick them up if I use a bunch of paper towels

 

Yeah, if you're desperate, any microwave-safe container could work (though I'm not actually sure if a plastic container can hold boiling water, better stick to ceramic and such)


To be safer with something (still microwave safe, but sus) like a plastic container, maybe just get the water "really really hot" but not quite boiling. We don't actually bring water to boiling when we make ramen like that because it just seems too hot, but very-very-hot water (not a single bubble) has always worked fine for us, as long as the lid is covering it while it sits


I wonder if a faucet that gets hot enough the water is steaming wouldn't just work on its own - though that makes me think, we use filtered water for our food, not faucet water

 

And yeah if we have to get something hot out of the microwave we use paper towels, sometimes folded for an extra layer

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19 minutes ago, ringgggg said:

Hand towels work if you have some on hand

Oh, good idea. I didn't think of that. We have rags usually used for cleaning things. I'm sure no one would mind if i used a couple as oven mitts and then put them back

 

And hmm, are people okay with moving on from all the stuff they've built in the server? This is some tibetan buddhism stuff. Just spend countless hours making stuff then let it all go and move on to something else

 

I keep thinking about minecraft but idk. I've failed to try and build anything for so long. I can't seem to believe it will not be painful and cringey. I used to be okay with things I built but I think I got worse or realized how bad I was the last time I played, as in the time before lotpwcraft, and my motivation to really study and figure out how to maybe do something well is low and unclear if I can. Also there aren't really examples for what I want to build. Well maybe for castles I guess but not a necropolis. I feel like an ant that wants to build a spaceship lol

 

I also notice I seem more aversive to active entertainment I think. I only want to ever do passive entertainment. That might not be good. I don't even play slay the spire anymore because it is too stressful

 

 

you fold paper towels maybe once or not at all when using it to get hot things? That seems like not nearly enough lol. If I was going to I'd get like at least 5 layers

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If it was literally boiling water, then we'd probably fold it again for 4 layers yeah

 

Doing new things is good for your brain, so maybe learn to be critical of the feeling of wanting to avoid something because you don't know how to do it well

You definitely won't get better at building in minecraft if you don't build in minecraft, if that's something you care about

 

And I don't think it's been quite long enough to start over already (people getting bored during the current server doesn't necessarily mean they're ready to play again even on a new map), but we're not usually too concerned about losing the stuff we build on Minecraft servers after the fact. At least, with a couple thoughts:

- If everyone who was going to see the things that were built/accomplished have already grown used to those things, and

- If the server's premise was not to last indefinitely so ultra-high effort builds were avoided

Then it's okay. It would suck if someone built something extremely high effort and impressive expecting the server to last a super long time though. I don't know how Simmie and Bre feel, but our spawn/giant tree are pretty standard, they were effort but once everyone is bored of them we don't mind the server moving on to another map

 

Still think it's a little too early to be considering that, though

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what is also probably good for the brain is reading the figure drawing book i bought a couple weeks ago. i think i will read it before getting into course again because one of the main things that has you do is figure drawings and I don't think i'm learning anything when I do that, which is part of my aversion of continuing it. Maybe it is supposed to not feel like learning, though

 

I feel relatively confident it should feel like you are learning when doing something... but maybe it doesn't work that way, or it doesn't work that way with everything

 

It works with japanese. I feel like I'm learning all the time. It doesn't necessarily mean I feel like I'm getting better though. Learning new stuff constantly doesn't result in noticeable improvement until months have passed, especially when you're intermediate. It's maybe faster when you are new

 

drawing often feels like I'd do it for months or years and not get any better, which is exactly what has happened before. Somehow, I have improved at some points, but I think the time I did improve I did feel it. Reading scott robertson's book was one of those times. Actually I think that was the only time... other than initial copying, which made me better at copying and hand eye coordination, but not at drawing things on my own or even creating things with references

 

Oh there was one other time, when I learned about iterative drawing from sycra. Iterative drawing was how I found out how I wanted my characters to look. They were so poorly designed for so long then in like weeks they got 3 or 4 times better. not to say they are actually any good.... i like them though, but i have limited evidence of how much others think they are good

 

but yeah if for some reason a wizard resetted my drawing skill, as long as they don't erase my memory of how I got it in the first place, I think I would regain literally all of it back in a few months. That's really sad for having drawn for over a decade

 

By extension I think anyone here could draw as good or better than me in a few months if they wanted to. What I do is not hard at all. Getting there felt like having my legs ripped off but I'm just... idk, there is something fundamentally wrong with me I've felt for a long time lol. Other people would not have nearly as difficult a time if they are told what to do or are good at figuring out what it is they need to do, and have whatever they need to apply consistent effort

 

random rant or something. i'm drawing right now

 

rant #2: why lately do I always have to [REDACTED] it is really annoying and used to not be like this

 

also ik i talked about the feeling like learning thing before but idr what i said about it 

 

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39 minutes ago, Reisen said:

Still think it's a little too early to be considering that, though

Sure, all things considered.

 

47 minutes ago, TB said:

I keep thinking about minecraft but idk. I've failed to try and build anything for so long. I can't seem to believe it will not be painful and cringey. I used to be okay with things I built but I think I got worse or realized how bad I was the last time I played, as in the time before lotpwcraft, and my motivation to really study and figure out how to maybe do something well is low and unclear if I can. Also there aren't really examples for what I want to build. Well maybe for castles I guess but not a necropolis. I feel like an ant that wants to build a spaceship lol

47 minutes ago, TB said:

This is some tibetan buddhism stuff. Just spend countless hours making stuff then let it all go and move on to something else

It’s like we’re on the same wavelength, tb

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20 minutes ago, TB said:

I feel relatively confident it should feel like you are learning when doing something... but maybe it doesn't work that way, or it doesn't work that way with everything

 

Technically if we're talking brain health, there doesn't actually have to be practical value to what you're learning for it to count, you only need to be focusing and doing new things (that you aren't able to do without conscious effort or thought). If you're practicing drawing and it's not feeling like that, just mundane, then you're probably missing the point of focusing on the what's and why's, instead of just "completing" the practice

 

Seek out the feeling of having-to-think-and-process, often pre-signaled by desire to avoid it as "effort"

Human brains avoid effort to preserve calories, but in this age where calories are never scarce (outside of third world/emergency scenarios), we need to learn to ignore/discredit that specific thought-feeling and focus on improving our brain health (and being productive/learning practical skills doesn't hurt either)

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RetroSpecter does a ton of FNF stuff, so that also checks out

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i've been putting my all into non-minecraft things as of late, but i want to get back to the server eventually. i would like to start again with a new seed and i could even be open to some mods, at some point, but it seems a bit early for that right now. i still have some more things that i would like to do in this world

 

1 hour ago, TB said:

are people okay with moving on from all the stuff they've built in the server? This is some tibetan buddhism stuff. Just spend countless hours making stuff then let it all go and move on to something else

the builds themselves may pass, but the experiences remain. i feel like i have actually learned a lot while building my atelier, and i think when we start over in the future, i'll be able to make something significantly better

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I see. I'm glad you feel you made progress

 

Learning japanese doesn't really feel like effort so much to me except when I learned kanji. It is often too fun to feel like effort. Though I do still avoid it anyway for some reason, mostly because I'm addicted to entertainment and the majority of the entertainment I like is in english, and the entertainment that is in japanese sucks to not understand well. In that I guess there is still an uncomfortable feeling but not because of effort so much, just annoyance of missing out. The satisfaction of solving something in japanese is really high though

 

Really weird. The feeling of wanting to avoid something because it requires effort doesn't seem to exist at all when you are having fun or like what you are doing, but I assume you still learn and get brain benefits, maybe even more so than normal, when you are doing something you find fun like that, as long as it isn't also totally mindless/not presenting you with new information

 

I feel like my damaged sleep schedule probably damages brain. I can't believe I used to always do that. I've had an unbreakable sleep schedule for years and now it is gone. I lost the ability to go to bed whenever I want to

 

As for drawing I don't feel like I'm learning because it is too hard and I don't know what to do. I can't find the answers to problems or even fully identify what the problems are. Gesture drawing is also incredibly boring and unpleasant. I obviously don't know what I'm doing at all with it and it is hard, but too hard. I just try to do what they say in videos to do. Find line of action and capture the pose in as few lines as possible, using c curves, and exaggerate it a little to really capture the action. My drawings just look ugly though and don't get better, and idk if I'm doing any of that right. It's effort because I don't want to do it and it isn't fun, but it doesn't feel like I'm figuring something out or gaining information. I just feel like I'm going through the motions of trying to copy a pose in 90 seconds and just do it over and over until 30 minutes have passed. So far the course doesn't really say anything about gesture drawing I don't already know I think, and actually gave very little information about how to do it, but just said you should do it every day and that it is important and like building a muscle. I feel like I'm building a deformed or useless muscle though. I think I asked my mentor person for advice once and he said you're not supposed to think about it, but I don't understand how it helps you if you aren't thinking about it. I feel like I"m supposed to come to some conclusions about how the human body works and looks, but I don't. It's also supposed to build a visual library so you have thousands of examples of poses in your head to choose from when you try to draw from imagination, but I don't store anything. All my poses are stiff and awkward and idk why, even when I use reference. Idk. I feel like in all the hours I've spent drawing and learning from others I can count everything I know on one hand, and if someone was told those things and practiced hand eye coordination for a little while would become me. It feels like there are another thousand things I don't know. Maybe I underestimate how much I know, but even if I do I still doubt it is like even 5 percent of what I should know

 

idk why i'm saying all of this. I just forgot how hard drawing is and had to remember and process it again. I feel like you can feel a sense of effort and not be helping your brain or learning anything, and not feel any effort and be learning tons of things and rapidly evolving. Marc (the person who made my course) says learning feels uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun or enjoyable, and I don't think the discomfort I feel is the learning kind or I'd be a super genius with how much I've felt that

 

Sorry for all that, just still trying to figure out what my issue is. It's really hard to believe that I'll actually get anywhere and it makes me not want to do anything. Despite this I've had fun drawing recently, but I've realized the drawing I've done at home kind of sucks, the one I showed lineart of. The sketch was fun and okay, but it gets worse each stage. I'm surprised how clean the lines were, I don't usually do that, but the colors and light makes no sense I feel and reveals my extreme ignorance 

 

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