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10 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

what it means to "beat" an animal is kind of vague. is this a fight to the death? are the animals aware that they must kill us to survive?

 

I just assumed a plain "you both start fighting in some standard flat terrain and intend to kill the other", though admittedly I was thinking of being the one to start the fights

 

And yeah, I really don't know how to kill a kangaroo, while it knows how to kill me just fine, so while I've seen some kangaroo fights and am confident I could have the upper hand, lack of a plan might just mean death

 

7 minutes ago, a937539 said:

Dude I don't even know if I could beat another human in a fight much less these animals.

 

Well yeah, with no special conditions a human vs a human is an equal match. I don't think any of these animal fights are an even match

 

And, I'm not really interested in discussing specifics of how to kill a bunch of random animals

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11 minutes ago, Luminesce said:

 

I just assumed a plain "you both start fighting in some standard flat terrain and intend to kill the other", though admittedly I was thinking of being the one to start the fights

 

And yeah, I really don't know how to kill a kangaroo, while it knows how to kill me just fine, so while I've seen some kangaroo fights and am confident I could have the upper hand, lack of a plan might just mean death

 

 

Well yeah, with no special conditions a human vs a human is an equal match. I don't think any of these animal fights are an even match

 

And, I'm not really interested in discussing specifics of how to kill a bunch of random animals

Okay how about to change in topic. 

You get three wishes you can add and's and clarifiers to The wish but they have to be related to the original intent of the wish. 

 

For instance you couldn't say I wish for world peace and a cheeseburger 

 

But you could say I wish for a cheeseburger with a side of fries and a drink with extra sauce. 

 

The genie's not going to screw with your wish. 

 

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I am not sure how lumi figures they can beat all those animals. Unless crocodiles are weaker than I think, I have no idea how you'd hurt it. It seems like it would just be so thick, sinewy, and tough, and not give a crap about a human's attack. Kangaroos can drop kick you without having to actually drop. And yeah for medium sized dogs I feel it'd have to be the smaller end of medium sized for me to have a decent chance of winning. For big dog I think like a german shepard, and they can destroy people easily

 

Humans are actually awful and weak compared to most other animals. We did not evolve to fight unarmed. We are apex predators because of tools and weapons. Unarmed we are automatically at a huge disadvantage to every other animal that has sharp teeth, claws, and are built like tanks with thicker muscle density, skin, and everything else

 

Also snakes can snap and bite you in like 3 milliseconds. People always kill snakes with a knife or rock when you catch them in your yard or while fishing and want to get rid of them. I am not sure I imagine anyone disabling one with just their hands. I guess if you grabbed it you can win by making it unable to move but idk what you do from there. It is physically impossible for a human to be strong enough to snap a human's neck with their hands even by twisting their neck, so I imagine it is probably still very difficult or impossible for animals. Maybe you can king kong it like he does to the t rex in the king kong videogame (i never seen movie, maybe it happens there too) but you might actually get bit trying

 

But yeah I thought it was an interesting and fun conversation. I guess it isn't as fun for others

 

I desperately want humans to be OP unarmed, partly why I love dragonball. If mythological chinese martial arts are real, I guess with that you could because you are amped with ki, but yeah that is unlikely. Shaolin monks do seem to have superhuman durability and endurance though and they say it is cuz ki cultivation and concentration. I think chinese martial arts are more so a discipline to get really tough, and in an actual fight you don't want to use the techniques you learned because from what I've seen on youtube, people using them get wrecked. However I am not sure if the people getting wrecked are ascetics or just people who learned the style like some kid who goes to karate class every wednesday

 

If I had 3 wishes I would wish to be my decided true form, or amy, which is an immortal entity that can shapeshift into literally anything and will things into existence or to happen

 

and uh, not sure I need wishes after that. I guess the ability to create any universe I wish, and give Rena the option or ability to really manifest physically and have her separate subjectivity, but could go back in

 

Basically bre's idea of wishing for omnipotence but dragged out into 3 wishes because efficiency

 

I like need to stop saying like so much. When did I become contaminated

 

After I become Amy, I will turn into Fused Zamasu and fly into the stratosphere, and create a super nova that slowly descends to the earth that is obviously visible and dangerous to the whole world. If humanity doesn't fix its corruption, it will sink into the earth and reach the core and explode in a week's time. I will announce the ultimatum to the whole world telepathically like the wizard babidi did

 

also i'm joking lol, but if I had that power I would like to do something but idk what. would have to be very careful

 

*everyone is typing* oh god

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I edited my message a lot so idk if anyone missed any part of it

 

and I mean what was I exposed to that got me into the habit of saying like so much like a valley girl. I think for me though it represents some lack of confidence that idk how to express otherwise

 

I also say though a lot, but I don't think Rena does towards me, but if Rena tries talking to someone outside of system, the though infestation begins

 

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7 minutes ago, TB said:

Unless crocodiles are weaker than I think, I have no idea how you'd hurt it. It seems like it would just be so thick, sinewy, and tough, and not give a crap about a human's attack

crocodiles are tough, but they have an extremely exploitable weakness: they cannot put much strength into opening their mouth, and if you can keep their jaws shut, they don't actually have that much they can do to harm you. this is what allows people to wrestle alligators for sport in real life. once you have an alligator grappled, you can hold it upside down and it's blood won't be able to flow to its brain properly and it will pass out. the problem is, for someone who is not trained in wrestling such beasts, it is extremely dangerous to get in range to make such an attempt. plus, people don't wrestle crocodiles for sport because they're way more dangerous than alligators, but they still have the same weakness

 

21 minutes ago, TB said:

Humans are actually awful and weak compared to most other animals. We did not evolve to fight unarmed. We are apex predators because of tools and weapons. Unarmed we are automatically at a huge disadvantage to every other animal that has sharp teeth, claws, and are built like tanks with thicker muscle density, skin, and everything else

i mean, if we were still living the hunter gatherer lifestyle, that required us to be trained in fighting against animals and to keep out bodies fit, then we would fair much better in such a situation. a bit part of the problem is that humans just don't do that stuff much anymore. plus, humans are pack hunters, so naturally, they are at a disadvantage in a 1 on 1 fight

 

26 minutes ago, TB said:

Also snakes can snap and bite you in like 3 milliseconds

cobras have the exploitable weakness that if you can force their head to the ground, then they can't lunge at you to bite. this is extremely dangerous to do for an untrained human, but trained humans can do it relatively safely. once you have it subdued, you can just stomp on it or whatever

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21 minutes ago, a937539 said:

I was worried it was a health thing.

Yeah no worries

 

18 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

crocodiles are tough, but they have an extremely exploitable weakness: they cannot put much strength into opening their mouth, and if you can keep their jaws shut, they don't actually have that much they can do to harm you. this is what allows people to wrestle alligators for sport in real life. once you have an alligator grappled, you can hold it upside down and it's blood won't be able to flow to its brain properly and it will pass out. the problem is, for someone who is not trained in wrestling such beasts, it is extremely dangerous to get in range to make such an attempt. plus, people don't wrestle crocodiles for sport because they're way more dangerous than alligators, but they still have the same weakness

Interesting, I didn't know that. It is fun to learn history and to learn about the capabilities and weaknesses of creatures

 

18 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

i mean, if we were still living the hunter gatherer lifestyle, that required us to be trained in fighting against animals and to keep out bodies fit, then we would fair much better in such a situation. a bit part of the problem is that humans just don't do that stuff much anymore. plus, humans are pack hunters, so naturally, they are at a disadvantage in a 1 on 1 fight

Yeah our lifestyles today make a big disadvantage. I think they still used weapons when we were hunter gatherer's though

 

18 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

cobras have the exploitable weakness that if you can force their head to the ground, then they c

I see. Yeah. I guess aligators and cobras aren't in the impossible category, but I think they are in impossible for me personally category. Lumi seems confident though lol

 

I'd win against those things like 1 out of 10 times maybe, unless I'm not giving myself enough credit. Knowing alligator weakness would raise my chances slightly. Otherwise I'd be kicking it hoping it doesn't bite me lol. Or I may have figured flipping it over would be good because I have vague memories of them struggling to turn back upright, and especially if you held them down. I didn't know they would pass out from it too though

 

I have vague memories of hearing about a supposedly true story of a man fighting a bear and winning, but I think he was mortally wounded and had to crawl back to civilization but got help and survived

 

Maybe he didn't kill the bear but somehow he survived. I had it in the category of like 1 in a billion stories. I wish I could find it again

 

bear would run up to byakko then put its head down to be petted. her spirit is too peaceful and pacifying. failed to have a byakko dream last night, would have been cool, idr what I dreamed about

 

in the event it was still aggressive she can probably just shout in an amplified way and scare it

 

pre training byakko or even mid training byakko would be a snack for it lol

 

idk what eara'd do. be in grave danger but plot armor way out

 

tayomi would one shot it then eat it

 

kyouiko would just leave and it'd be incapable of following her

 

hoss and yoko have an action scene

 

zoraz trick bear into thinking it killed him

 

it's fun to imagine being more capable than this flimsy body lol

 

i got disillusioned when a punch hurt me more than my target

 

live guided meditation time to purify my cringe

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39 minutes ago, TB said:

I have vague memories of hearing about a supposedly true story of a man fighting a bear and winning, but I think he was mortally wounded and had to crawl back to civilization but got help and survived

i think that was a plot in riverdale too

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