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[Luminesce]

absolutely nothing-mood

decide to review the few kanji I know on wanikani

 

see that 下 (down/below) has eight different ways to read it

 

nevermind the learning Japanese thing

[Luminesce]

I always do it anyways, coping telling myself learning just a little more will still be useful without committing to actually becoming fluent

 

Doo wop doo wop, listen to the music

[ringgggg]

When I get hotdogs, I usually rip the top part of the bun off. I like less bun, it doesn’t overpower the dog’s signature meatiness.

 

If I could put anything on my hotdog, I’d put chili, cheese, relish, and a drizzle of ketchup, mustard, and mayo, but there’s only so many things on the school cafeteria menu. You end up having to get creative, like ordering a side salad so your burger can have some lettuce or something. It makes you feel like a true culinary expert sometimes.

 

31 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

if it's important, they'll leave a voicemail. it's probably just some automated scam anyway

It was one of those ads for a tinnitus treatment

[TurboSimmie]

6 minutes ago, ringgggg said:

When I get hotdogs, I usually rip the top part of the bun off. I like less bun, it doesn’t overpower the dog’s signature meatiness.

 

 

I agree that the bun-to-meat ratio is off in most hot dogs. 🌭

[Luminesce]

Sometimes made up for by having too many condiments

Edited September 20, 2024 by Luminesce

[Luminesce]

Wow, no joke I literally just saw this right after posting that

 

It's a synchronicity; add more condiments to your hotdogs

[TurboSimmie]

Usually I'm happy with a little mustard but sometimes I'll go full maximalist. 🌭🌭🌭

[Breloomancer]

i am fine with the standard size of hotdog buns, but ideally you toast them before inserting the hotdog, to get them nice and crispy. a little ketchup goes a long way, and if its a good hotdog or sausage, then it's best to forgo the ketchup entirely. i am not fond of mustard, but to each their own. chili and cheese go great, of course, but that is, in my opinion, its own subclass of hotdog, different from a standard hotdog. i guess i'm not one much for toppings, really. although, i'll often have some baked beans with hotdogs, because it is a very simple meal, and using the hotdog bun to soak up some of the liquid from the baked beans is very good

[Ice909]

episode of torchwood called cyberwomen. they've become woke. 

[TB]

 

1 hour ago, Luminesce said:

absolutely nothing-mood

decide to review the few kanji I know on wanikani

 

see that 下 (down/below) has eight different ways to read it

 

nevermind the learning Japanese thing

I try to tell you it is a massive waste of time to learn japanese by just learning kanji and all their readings together

 

Just learn words, which is way more satisfying and immediately useful and is not made any more difficult whatsoever by not knowing the reading beforehand

 

Let's say we could snap your fingers and you instantly know all readings of all kanji. Now what? You still will not be able to read Japanese correctly. There is nothing to indicate what reading to use and the readings aren't going to help you know what it means. Even knowing all the kanji's potential meanings isn't going to make it perfectly clear always what the word means

 

Let's snap our fingers and say oyu instantly know 10,000 most common words. Now you can read Japanese and function, and oh you also know all the readings and meanings too incidentally

 

I feel like just grinding all the readings and meanings of each kanji as a method to learn japanese is like trying to build a city, but you start out by building a city out of glass first so you can then feel like you are ready to build the actual city out of steel and cement and stuff

 

Also it's been a while, but I feel like when we learned how to read in english class, we learned the basics of how letters sound, like a is ah and p is puh and whatever, but I don't recall ever sitting in school and being like, ph is ff and aeux is oh and gh is ff sometimes and other times doesn't make a sound and et is ay and te is t and whatever probably hundreds or more examples of finicky sounds english letters make in niche contexts outside of what you learn they sound like from abcs

 

I feel like we learn the oddities of pronunciation from reading a lot and being exposed to words. What you are doing is like "I can't learn the word beautiful until I learn that eau sounds like 'yuu'" or something when you can just learn beautiful and in the process you instantly know eau is yuu sometimes without having to make it 2 steps for no reason, because learning eau can be yuu does not help whatsoever literally just as much as know 下 sometimes being shita or ka or etc depending on what word it shows up in isn't going to have any worth

Except doing this with japanese is far worse because you have to do this process like 10 times as much compared to english probably

 

I can't imagine a more miserable and stressful and slow way to learn japanese

 

what is a million times more fun and something you can do right now instead is just

 

ooh, now I know that symbol means inside and is pronounced naka because I was having fun reading a manga, and looking the word up cracked the puzzle so now I know that "mata karada n naka ni hairarechamazuimonna"  means "you don't want me getting inside your body again, huh"

 

Spoiler

what an amazing line to choose out of context by complete accident in a 34 tankoban series for my example

and then you get cold chills and tingles and feel good from learning while also having fun and it is super rewarding and you are actually doing something useful WHILE learning, and knowing that symbol is pronounced naka in this context is probably going to be instantly rewarded again in the near future cuz it is so common and by the laws of physics the majority of the words you do this with will be common and likely seen again very soon, and you lose nothing by not knowing the other yomis for the time being especially since naka is what that is going to be probably like 90% of the time and if not, it will be chuu, and I know this because I've read enough japanese to notice that that is what you see and need to know the majority of the time

 

or you can grind knowing naka, uchi, ataru, and chuu and start reading and run into that symbol and proceed to not be any closer to knowing which yomi is even relevant because you don't know words yet

 

 

let's say you know all of those readings

 

if for some reason the text was all hiragana, or you were listening and recognized you heard shita

 

you wouldn't even know if it was that, or 舌 tongue or 簧 reed of an instrument

or if you read or heard moto if it was 元 origin  if you read or heard ka if it was 科 science 課 lesson 蚊 mosquito etc, all of which are also ka

 

Idk maybe you're seeing something I'm not but I don't understand why you feel it is important to actually try to look at a kanji then absorb all of the yomis of it at once, or really even at all for any reason, instead of focusing on just words being used in context, and learning how a word in context is pronounced, because if you do that, there is only usually 1 right answer, and the latter let's you read and the former makes you able to be a walking dictionary everyone has access to in their pocket, assuming you ever succeeded at it, which I'm pretty sure that method of study probably has a 95% casualty rate and the only survivors are people who did it because they took a class in school or something and in the end couldn't function in japanese whatsoever afterwards

 

 

sorry for long message, just really want to try to get my point across to you, or if you disagree with it, have you tell me what is wrong with my suggestion and important about the way you are doing it

 

edit: also I read ahead and it took only 10 pages before only knowing 中 is naka became useful again

 

I did not see another reading of that kanji appear within those 10 pages

 

some readings seriously aren't worth your time, at least right now. simply finding things you find fun to read and reading them will teach you what is important to know and not know first and it curates itself and is a lot more fun than trying to memorize a list

 

focusing on learning words, especially in the wild in text I find fun to read, is how my low motivation league addicted self was able to at least get to a point where I can look at any random low difficulty manga page like dragonball or a youtube comment and have quite a good chance of reading a lot of if not all of it and know what it means, even with kanji present, and I was not miserable the whole time, or any of it. I did it because I was having fun and if I didn't waste time on non japanese games and media too much I'd probably be native proficiency by now but alas english media addiction etc

Edited September 20, 2024 by TB