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we actually knew pretty much all Krillin stuff already, Lumi saw him and Goku training at at least two different points in the show as a kid

 

but Tien and Chiaotzu were mysteries for sure, and we've never seen Yamcha when he wasn't a joke (he was really 100% retroactively redeemed with that surprise kamehameha)

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36 minutes ago, Lucilyn said:

but Tien and Chiaotzu were mysteries for sure, and we've never seen Yamcha when he wasn't a joke (he was really 100% retroactively redeemed with that surprise kamehameha)

I don't agree he's a joke very much. He gets a bad wrap for no reason. It is just a meme cuz he dies to a saibaman, but these saibamen are each comparable in power to raditz, and raditz almost took out goku and piccolo by himself and only lost cuz gohan got enraged and shattered his ribs

 

Post kami training yamcha would easily defeat post kami training goku

 

Also yamcha beat the saibaman in a fight easily, including finishing it off with a kamehameha. It just didn't completely die and basically used its remaining hitpoint to sneak attack him and kill yamcha with a suicide attack, which suicide attacks are always far more powerful than any attack that can be generated normally

 

He also fights at the level of the ginyu force in the afterlife, but I can't remember if the ginyu force was nerfed by yemma in that scenario

 

He gets neg diff by android 20 (gero) later, so he is 100% useless by this point, but he did train for the androids and is certainly very strong at this point, it's just too much

 

Then in buu saga, he fights olibu and others in the afterlife, which is nothing compared to buu but quite a lot compared to the rest of the show before the buu saga, so he isn't' really a joke, he just needs to stay away any relevant antagonists to goku or vegeta lol

 

But yeah if using a kamehameha makes him not a joke to you, you should consider the fact he's invented his own move, the spirit ball, and also has the wolf fang fist, which is a cool technique, that idk if he was taught it or invented it. There is a fan comic about yamchas past where there is a wolf hermit who taught him the technique, but he died before he could teach him the full version, which the full version is on some nanto suicho ken energy. It's fun to imagine if true but yeah. He later even makes a super spirit ball, which is a bigger version, kind of like how goku made a super kamehameha with the same idea, except goku didn't invent kamehameha

 

Inventing your own ki attack is pretty skillful, especially when he was in his 20s when he made it, compared to master roshi taking 50 years to invent the kamehameha

 

This makes krillin even more cracked though, because he invents the destructo disc AND expanding energy wave in a similar amount of time, which are both probably more powerful than spirit ball, but still

 

In case you didn't know spirit ball is telekinetically manipulating a hardened ball of energy to fly around from any direction repeatedly, so you have to dodge it from random directions and it can hit you over and over again like getting smashed with an bowling ball over and over

 

byakko flew head first max speed into it before lol, it probably would have killed her if she wasn't amped from essentially her version of a kaioken

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Krillin is super talented yeah

it was actually Dragon Ball Super that helped fix the (not even our, kinda casual-fans' consensus) perspective of "ha those old characters are jokes, so weak"

it's just that they're all humans, who are not very powerful

so we've been thinking of the human characters since then in relation to how accomplished they are vs other humans, and aside from Roshi (who we just always respected because wtf he's strong he blew up the MOON), we respect most the chars a lot more now

 

especially Krillin, the fact that he was relevant for even a split second against Frieza "casually blow up the entire Saiyan race instantly" is absolutely crazy, it's tempting to call him the #1 strongest human in DBZ

(but we'll need to watch DBZ for real to be sure in saying that)

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20 minutes ago, Lucilyn said:

especially Krillin, the fact that he was relevant for even a split second against Frieza "casually blow up the entire Saiyan race instantly" is absolutely crazy, it's tempting to call him the #1 strongest human in DBZ

(but we'll need to watch DBZ for real to be sure in saying that)

Akira Toriyama has stated Krillin is the strongest human, so it is confirmed, though Tien's tri beam might have more raw attack power than anything krillin can do, at the expense of losing life force though

 

Master Roshi was considered the strongest human before krillin in his day. In fact that is what the 2nd dragonball movie is about. Dr. Wheelo is a mad scientist and wants to have the body of the strongest person on earth to implant his brain into, who he mistakenly thinks is master roshi at first before realizing goku is stronger

 

One of master roshi's titles in japanese is Muten Roshi (which is where the roshi in his english name comes from I guess) which basically means invincible old master. In japanese he is otherwise always refered to as kame sennin (turtle hermit) by friends, or jii chan by goku

 

I always found it interesting. neither of those things are really his birth name obviously. His only known names are actually just titles describing what he is or his status. His name isn't really Roshi

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Hey there, the name's Bryan. In system Re:Body(In order of the rainbow): 

Sean, Esper, Blinky, Compact, Janey, Kyle, Gwen'd, Gwen, Emily, Rollin, Waynin, Trease, Layy, Justin, Chloe, Zachery, and Elliot. 

I've been here a while. Much longer than I thought I'd be. Our system was founded October 2nd, 2018. In early 2020, we decided that due to our systems exponential growth, we'd limit who would be active. Now, every month, we do a check to see who wishes to be in dormancy and who wishes to be active. Currently, for the month of April, 2023, we've got myself(Bryan), Janey(Co-host), Emily, Layy, Chloe, and Esper(sub-rep). After over 2 long years, we can finally switch :) 

 

Bryan is currently swapped in as host, Esper is sub-rep. 

 

"There used to be 7 wonders of the world, but now there's 8, as everyone wonders how much of a fool you are."

 

Ice909#0065 -- Always down for a chat 

 

https://discord.gg/89qN59SbRp Plural safe-space 

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Ruh Roh Shaggy

 

Time to book it, huh

 

tri beam has insane attack power but destructo disc is also hyper lethal as it is concentrated and using energy in such a way it can cut through almost anything, but unfortunately a lot of villians can regenerate or survive being severed

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3 hours ago, Lucilyn said:

it won't be real-lifelike-wow-that's-an-actual-dinosaur-in-my-room

it can be

 

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you've just got to pick the right hobbies. most of my hobbies i can do for free

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