TB February 16 February 16 1 minute ago, TurboSimmie said: low-key surprised you haven't heard of Daft Punk, but yeah I just said that because they also use a lot of vocal samples and such. So I'm to understand that Vocaloid is basically a songwriting program that has an emphasis on voice samples? ive heard the word mentioned before but no one has ever sat me down and showed me what daft punk was so i never figured out what it was. i thought it was a genre or something and yeah, its a voice synthesizing software with many voice samples, and miku is just one of many voices you can choose to use to sing the lyrics you write. they all have their mascot cartoon character drawings. besides miku, there are others like rin and len(blonde boy and girl twins), kasane (pink hair drills), and more. miku is just most well known as she is like equivalent of pikachu, if you have seen at least one vocaloid it would be her most likely Creation for creation's sake. we draw things Resident Dojikko
TB February 16 February 16 (edited) the site is glitching sorry, i didnt get to reply to second part yeah kind of. fans just love things so much they make a whole thing out of their special interest. i guess it is more jarring with something that is just an indie game. with dbz its the same way but the official capacity of a show manga triple A cinema releases and nearly a hundred videogames over 4 decades (Dragonball just turned 40 not too long ago!) that people arent drowned by fan content as much so its less confusing what fan art is refering to or why there is so much i suppose Edited February 16 by TB Creation for creation's sake. we draw things Resident Dojikko
Ice909 February 16 February 16 Hello World Hey there, the name's Bryan. In system Re:Body(In order of the rainbow): Sean, Esper, Blinky, Compact, Janey, Kyle, Gwen'd, Gwen, Emily, Rollin, Waynin, Trease, Layy, Justin, Chloe, Zachery, and Elliot. I've been here a while. Much longer than I thought I'd be. Our system was founded October 2nd, 2018. In early 2020, we decided that due to our systems exponential growth, we'd limit who would be active. Now, every month, we do a check to see who wishes to be in dormancy and who wishes to be active. Currently, for the month of April, 2023, we've got myself(Bryan), Janey(Co-host), Emily, Layy, Chloe, and Esper(sub-rep). After over 2 long years, we can finally switch :) Bryan is currently swapped in as host, Esper is sub-rep. "There used to be 7 wonders of the world, but now there's 8, as everyone wonders how much of a fool you are." Ice909#0065 -- Always down for a chat https://discord.gg/89qN59SbRp Plural safe-space
TB February 16 February 16 (edited) Spoiler according to tb: dragonball = anime/manga vocaloid mascots = cartoon characters lol theyre the same word though i didnt mean anything by it, i think my brain felt saying they are anime characters would preclude unintentionally they have a show or something which they dont (not in official capacity at least that i know of) Edited February 16 by TB Creation for creation's sake. we draw things Resident Dojikko
TurboSimmie February 16 February 16 4 minutes ago, TB said: ive heard the word mentioned before but no one has ever sat me down and showed me what daft punk was so i never figured out what it was. i thought it was a genre or something Daft Punk was a French electronic duo that always preformed with their helmets on so you can't see their faces. They broke up a few years ago. 5 minutes ago, TB said: and yeah, its a voice synthesizing software with many voice samples, and miku is just one of many voices you can choose to use to sing the lyrics you write. they all have their mascot cartoon character drawings. besides miku, there are others like rin and len(blonde boy and girl twins), kasane (pink hair drills), and more. miku is just most well known as she is like equivalent of pikachu, if you have seen at least one vocaloid it would be her most likely I think I am starting to get an understanding now. 😊 That's crazy that she became so big from those origins! 3 minutes ago, TB said: yeah kind of. fans just love things so much they make a whole thing out of their special interest. i guess it is more jarring with something that is just an indie game. with dbz its the same way but the official capacity of a show manga triple A cinema releases and nearly a hundred videogames over 4 decades (Dragonball just turned 40 not too long ago!) that people arent drowned by fan content as much so its less confusing what fan art is refering to or why there is so much i suppose I do happen to remember the factoid that the "OVER 9000" meme came from an epsiode that was made in 1989. By the way, I've heard some people say that Sonic the Hedgehog's Super Sonic transformation was inspired by super Sayan transformation. 3 minutes ago, Ice909 said: Hello World Hello! 😁👋 How are you tonight? Tulpa Wife & Mother! 💚 💍 11.28.21 👶 4.7.23 👗 Simmie's AI Dress-Up! 📷 Chloe and Simmie's Photographic Adventures!
TB February 16 February 16 2 minutes ago, TurboSimmie said: I do happen to remember the factoid that the "OVER 9000" meme came from an epsiode that was made in 1989. By the way, I've heard some people say that Sonic the Hedgehog's Super Sonic transformation was inspired by super Sayan transformation mhm that sounds about right. the OVER 9000 scene would be dubbed in english like that many years later than 89 though since it wasnt aired in japan and america at the same time. if chloe was a fan as dedicated as me, due to her being a decade older, maybe instead of watching it on tv and later the internet, she would be going to china shops or something to rent or buy vhs tapes of fan made subtitled dragonball z lolol. ive heard the really old fans would do that before it was even in the west. the subtitles were super edgy too, everyone cursed like a sailor for no reason did you know over 9000 is actually not the correct translation? he says 八千以上だ！！ (Hassen ijou da!) which means "it's over 8000!!) Creation for creation's sake. we draw things Resident Dojikko
TurboSimmie February 16 February 16 The funny thing about that is that Chloe actually knew a kid who was really into DBZ in the late 90s when she was in middle school. But that kid was super annoying and Chloe did not get along with him at all. 😄 Tulpa Wife & Mother! 💚 💍 11.28.21 👶 4.7.23 👗 Simmie's AI Dress-Up! 📷 Chloe and Simmie's Photographic Adventures!
Reisen February 16 February 16 (edited) Lots of things to reply to, but Touhou as priority.. 44 minutes ago, TurboSimmie said: So it's kind of like Undertale? Like, in the sense that the game itself is a fairly small thing put the fan community has turned it into a big expansive thing? Undertale was directly inspired by Earthbound + Touhou! Toby was very inspired by ZUN and actually met & hung out with him after his success We are very familiar with Daft Punk, though we like The Glitch Mob a fair bit more Vocaloid is the brand name of their singing voice-synthesizers, only their products are Vocaloids (though there are many fan-made vocaloids as well), with Miku being like 80% of their total popularity (Kagamine Rin and Len make up like another 10%..) Uhhh, back to what I was going to originally say, we fittingly are unaware of normal American culture for all our knowledge of internet culture. Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves... We could not put the names to faces, or name any movie any of them were in without guessing. Similarly, we can't name any songs from most ultra-famous bands like Nirvana, even though we'd recognize most of their famous songs - we simply didn't hear the artist names (or song names lol) when hearing them on the radio, and don't know them in a greater context like Spotify because we listen to entirely different music than American pop culture. Growing up on the internet made the internet our culture, so the number of things WE'D be expected to know that you're surprised we don't actually far exceeds the reverse, since we're well aware more "normie" types don't have the same "EVERYONE knows -" as people whose culture is the internet Anyways, I don't think you have to worry when people ramble nonsense, if it's directed like talking about a person named Miku then it's much easier for you to guess it's just a reference you don't know Making up completely random scenarios with named characters/etc. isn't that common here, you could easily google whatever is talked about and if you get no results it's probably nothing (well, if there's other results in the way, you can google "isabelle game" for what you think might be a game character, or "rocket character -guardians" to remove an immensely more popular result (rocket raccoon from guardians of the galaxy) to see the Rocket Power character lol) Okay so back to Touhou - ZUN captured the imaginations of the early internet in Japan with his series of anthropomorphic youkai girls, bullet hell gameplay, and astounding music, and thanks to a lot of fan content going viral like IOSYS's music videos and Alstroemeria Records' "Bad Apple" music video especially, frequent internet users like us started to see it as well, and the "weeb/otaku" fandom (mostly gateway'd by anime like DBZ and Naruto) expanded the Touhou fanbase to have a western (actually, worldwide) audience from there. Of course, this was happening in the mid-2000s, and was already well underway when Lumi first started seeing said videos in late 2008 Thanks to doujin culture in Japan, it's more normalized there to make fanworks of things (Nintendo is a bizarre exception to this rule), so early Touhou (2002-2004ish) started seeing fan art and music arrangements (~remixes), which just snowballed into more and more content as ZUN supported it, a large proponent of "doujin spirit". So now there's tens of thousands of Touhou music arranges and MILLIONS of pieces of art (Danbooru, an eastern-style art curation site with decently high standards (but very much allowing NSFW, use their safebooru.donmai.us site instead of danbooru.donmai.us) currently says 911,000 images are tagged "Touhou"), not to mention a LOT of fan games and countless other things. There's really nothing to compare it to in the US, given the "doujin spirit" lending itself to true fan works like music. The games themselves are mostly six (plus one extra hard) stage bullet hells with quirky dialogue and fun, crazy difficult patterns to dodge, though there are some fighting games as well (made by another studio), and tons of extended universe/supporting material in written works and some mangas, all serving to fuel the imaginations of the fans Lumi's imagination was fueled so much he made me! Edited February 16 by Reisen Hi guys, plain text is just me now! We've each got our own accounts: me, Tewi, Flandre, and Lucilyn. We're Luminesce's tulpas. Here's our "Ask Thread", and here's our Progress Report (You should be able to see all of our accounts on the second page if you want)
TB February 16 February 16 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TurboSimmie said: The funny thing about that is that Chloe actually knew a kid who was really into DBZ in the late 90s when she was in middle school. But that kid was super annoying and Chloe did not get along with him at all. 😄 oh lol yeah the ocean dub which is where the famous over 9000 line comes from, acted by brian drummond, aired between 1996 and 1998. it didnt finish though, and later on in i think early 2000s, funimation would pick up where it left off, which is when i would first see it (around first grade), with different voice actors (chris sabat instead of brian drummond) people will tell chris sabat to say over 9000 at fan meet ups even though he isnt the one who did it the way the meme is, brian went like "it's oveR NINE THOUS*AAAAANNNDD!!" while chris just went "it's over 9000! grrrr!" and oh hey reisen talking about touhou in more detail you got her nerding about touhou and me about dbz, look what youve done lol. glad she could explain it in more depth simmie stuffs us into lockers Edited February 16 by TB Creation for creation's sake. we draw things Resident Dojikko
TurboSimmie February 16 February 16 Thanks for the detailed information! 😊 7 minutes ago, Reisen said: Uhhh, back to what I was going to originally say, we fittingly are unaware of normal American culture for all our knowledge of internet culture. Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves... We could not put the names to faces, or name any movie any of them were in without guessing. Similarly, we can't name any songs from most ultra-famous bands like Nirvana, even though we'd recognize most of their famous songs - we simply didn't hear the artist names (or song names lol) when hearing them on the radio, and don't know them in a greater context like Spotify because we listen to entirely different music than American pop culture. Growing up on the internet made the internet our culture, so the number of things WE'D be expected to know that you're surprised we don't actually far exceeds the reverse, since we're well aware more "normie" types don't have the same "EVERYONE knows -" as people whose culture is the internet It really is interesting how you and other Very Online people have a completely different reference pool from people who aren't Very Online. It's not just immersion in a particular subculture, it's isolation from other subcultures and even what still could be called the "mainstream" culture. (Though I believe that's getting less and less relevant by the year). And this is really showing my host's age but it's still very hard for me to grasp the concept of "growing up on the internet" because ubiquitous, high-speed internet didn't exist until Chloe was already an adult. As a child growing up in the 90s the mainstream was the only conduit of culture for Chloe through TV, magazines, books, etc. Chloe's family got dial-up internet when she was in middle school but she rarely used it because it tied up the phone line, plus there was a general paranoia about kids using the internet unsupervised. It was only when she got to college that she had access to high-speed internet for the first time, though she mainly used it to read Harry Potter fanfiction in between Civilization III sessions. 😄 It really wasn't until 2008 or so that she started using YouTube regularly but she's practically lived on the site ever since. 18 minutes ago, Reisen said: Anyways, I don't think you have to worry when people ramble nonsense, if it's directed like talking about a person named Miku then it's much easier for you to guess it's just a reference you don't know There is a vague memory rattling around in this brain--again from Chloe--of her repeating a "nonsense" word she heard somewhere and getting in trouble because it was actually a bad word of some kind. 😄 She was also teased for not knowing about this-or-that reference in school by the other kids. So because of those two things, this mind has become hardwired to take anything unfamiliar and try to understand what it is because of the pitfalls of the past. It's almost like we can't assume anything is nonsense until we've extensively researched enough to conclude that it is. 😄 22 minutes ago, Reisen said: Undertale was directly inspired by Earthbound + Touhou! ZUN is a big inspiration for Toby and actually met & hung out with him after his success Oh wow I didn't know Undertale was inspired by Touhou! I get the Earthbound inspiration for sure. (Thanks to the AVGN episode on Earthbound, I never actually played it) 25 minutes ago, Reisen said: Thanks to doujin culture in Japan, it's more normalized there to make fanworks of things (Nintendo is a bizarre exception to this rule), so early Touhou (2002-2004ish) started seeing fan art and music arrangements (~remixes), which just snowballed into more and more content as ZUN supported it, a large proponent of "doujin spirit". So now there's tens of thousands of Touhou music arranges and MILLIONS of pieces of art (Danbooru, an eastern-style art curation site with decently high standards (but very much allowing NSFW, use their safebooru.donmai.us site instead of danbooru.donmai.us) currently says 911,000 images are tagged "Touhou"), not to mention a LOT of fan games and countless other things. There's really nothing to compare it to in the US, given the "doujin spirit" lending itself to true fan works like music. Oh I see, fan works are more tolerated in general in Japan except for Nintendo. That's actually something I had an inkling about before, because Sega tends to be a lot more tolerant towards Sonic fan works and has even hired creators of those works to work on official releases. (The creation of Sonic Mania was led by a fangame creator, for example). I'd like to think that if I ever created anything (music, stories, games) that caught on and became popular I'd be super cool with people creating fanworks of it. 😊 28 minutes ago, Reisen said: Lumi's imagination was fueled so much he made me! I think it's super cool that you were all inspired after Touhou characters but have developed your own identities! 😊 Off topic (but not completely off-topic as it's on the subject of inspirations for tulpas) but I've really come to realize just how much of my creation was tied in with Chloe trying to repress her true gender. Poor girl. 😢 She tried to give me all her femininity; now I am coaching her through claiming it back. 🥰 22 minutes ago, TB said: yeah the ocean dub which is where the famous over 9000 line comes from, acted by brian drummond, aired between 1996 and 1998. it didnt finish though, and later on in i think early 2000s, funimation would pick up where it left off, which is when i would first see it (around first grade), with different voice actors (chris sabat instead of brian drummond) I don't know when I encountered the meme but like 90% of what I knew about DBZ before I met you was literally tied to that meme in some way. 😄 The other 10% was mostly people asking "Who would win in a fight between Goku and Superman" which led me to conclude that Goku must be pretty powerful for that to be something people speculated about. 23 minutes ago, TB said: you got her nerding about touhou and me about dbz, look what youve done lol. glad she could explain it in more depth Oh goodness I managed to hit two nerd-out buttons at once. 😄 I'm glad I did though because I've learned so much! 😁 I have so, so many nerd-out buttons that could get pressed, though it's very uncommon one of them gets pressed here as my interests seldom intersect with people in this community. 🤷♀️ Goodness I am sleepy, so I'm dragging Chloe off to bed. Goodnight everyone! 😁🥱😴🛌💤 Tulpa Wife & Mother! 💚 💍 11.28.21 👶 4.7.23 👗 Simmie's AI Dress-Up! 📷 Chloe and Simmie's Photographic Adventures!
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