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22 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

well i know that much. and of course, it is all based around making money by providing goods and services outside of what is legally allowed

It really depends on what gang you go to. Some of them are involved in that market, but others just want control over people and territory

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32 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

not all inaccurate depictions of something are cultural appropriation. naruto can't appropriate ninjas, because naruto and ninjas both come from the same culture. furthermore, japan is already an imperialist culture that massively exports their ideas, so japanese culture isn't in danger of erasure anyway

 

it's not wrong to enjoy media that has problematic elements, like cultural appropriation, but you should be mindful of the problems that it has and be careful not to replicate them yourself

hmm i see

 

schizo thought but if time can be thought of as a location as well, wouldn't modern japanese people be appropriating culture of past japanese people lolol (i'm kind of joking but still, i can imagine if people in the past can see what they are seen as in the future they might get mad. maybe not with ninjas though, because spreading stories about insane feats of physical ability or magic i think was something they actually did as propaganda to make people scared of them, but i'm not a ninja scholar and it is hard to know what info about historical ninjas is true as it seems they went out of their way to not have like a bunch of written records about themselves)

 

17 minutes ago, ringgggg said:

I was watching a king von youtube documentary the other day and I didn’t realize how much worldbuilding the chicago gang scene has. Like full on factions and partnerships and wars and stuff

chicago gang scene would have showed up in my childhood through media in the form of the driver games, but i sucked so bad at them i couldn't see much of it as i couldn't beat any missions lol. that was my first time seeing a sawed off shotgun and wondering why are they randomly illegal. i thought they did more damage or something but it is because you can hide them in trench coats

 

most of what i know about gangs come from gta games and N.W.A. music. i don't know what all of nwa is true to gang life (i'm sure some has to be extremely exaggerated like the song "sorry louie" lol or gang members are like like ed gein levels of horrifying), but people say modern rappers are rappers that are wannabe gangsters but NWA were gangsters that were wannabe rappers. i don't listen to much rap because it often has lyrics i hate especially modern ones but nwa i like a lot (and also dislike a lot it depends a lot i'm very picky)

 

hmmm, i think my favorite nwa song might be "no more ?'s" and it is basically eazy e being interviewed about what it is like to be a gangster lol

 

content of gta san andreas does resemble lyrics of nwa a lot. some of the characters even look modeled after nwa members.

 

vice city i think you are a part of an italian mob and just got out of prison so immediately go back to crime instantly as one does lol. but you lost your mob boss's drugs/money because you hosted a failed trade that was a set up so you got robbed of everything and the story of the whole game is your mob boss is angry and you have to have his money before he comes to vice city or he's probably gonna murder you, so you go around trying to find crime jobs to make the money back and it just escalates from you being a small henchmen guy to eventually running the entire city and having millions of dollars, so by the end you just betray them i think cuz you don't need them anymore

 

san andreas is about you returning home to los santos from liberty city for your mom's funeral because she was shot in a drive by shooting. think your character went to liberty city because they didn't want to live in gang life but now you have to be there with your friends and family. they see you as having abandoned them so they don't respect you, so you do things that build respect back with your hood. as the game goes on, you find out all your friends are actually sellouts and hypocrites, except your brother who you save, and you defeat a corrupt cop that has it out for you for no reason. one of the first things that happens in the game is that cop pulls you over and just takes all of your money savings away in civil asset forfeiture saying it was drug money when it was not lol

 

i remember more details about san andreas because i think it was more memorable and wholesome compared to vice city, it also was just a bigger game with way more content so me and my friends played it more. it also has a lot of comic relief. there is a lot of sad moments or surprising moments or dark moments but most of it is silly to some extent or another and not taking itself seriously all the time. you make a hippy friend at some point and he gets paranoid the government is going to arrest him for his massive weed farm so you have to take a flame thrower and help him burn down his own farm lol, which i think results in you getting massively high and then you are driving basically his janky mystery machine looking vehicle to get out of there.

 

another kind of wholesome thing is there's a young kind of dumb guy that's like a family friend and wants really bad to be a hard core gangster but in reality he's a soft person so everyone tries to keep him out of danger and out of that life. my memories are vague though so my memories might not be exact

 

most of my san andreas memories consist of trying to find myths with my friend cuz we thought based on youtube videos there were secrets in the game like big foot or jason vorhees or alien spacecrafts, so we searched relentlessly for these things. some of them are real, like mysterious ran down cars in the woods sometimes at the top of hills and if you walk below them they start rolling down the hill for no reason and possibly run you over

 

i think GTA V actually added actual ufos and stuff because i guess they became self aware of the mythological brain worms that infested the community about san andreas lol. maybe at that time it was just the biggest open world game with a lot of creepy and variable environemnts, so it opened peoples imaginations

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4 minutes ago, Breloomancer said:

if you aren't in it for money, what's even the point?

in gta games i guess there is often two things you are after that you get as rewards for missions. money, and respect. respect+ i think even is a meme lol

 

also i'm sitting here kind of suprised a game like gta exists. you literally get money and respect for killing cops or destroying police vehicles lol. i remember noticing everytime i blow up a police helicopter with a rocket launcher my money goes up

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2 minutes ago, TB said:

schizo thought but if time can be thought of as a location as well, wouldn't modern japanese people be appropriating culture of past japanese people

sure, but past japanese people are all dead, so their opinions don't matter as much. i'm sure that the ancient greeks and ancient egyptians wouldn't be too happy with a lot of the ways their mythology is depicted either, if they were still alive

 

2 minutes ago, TB said:

in gta games i guess there is often two things you are after that you get as rewards for missions. money, and respect. respect+ i think even is a meme lol

sure, but respect is peripheral. you want respect so that people will be more willing to listen to you so that it is easier to manage your business, but the reason why you have the business in the first place is to make money

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