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On 7/15/2020 at 2:38 PM, Nyarlat-hotep said:

This is an odd conversation.

 

You’re not kidding, skip skip skip.

 

On 7/15/2020 at 7:01 PM, Breloomancer said:

I'm going to take LSD either tomorrow or on friday, how's that for having a good time? I can be cool...

 

Isn’t there a trigger or nsfw warning tag on this site? @Ranger

 

On 7/15/2020 at 9:41 PM, Luminesce said:

I don't really want to be like "I told you so" if it does screw with you, nor do I want you to do the same if it doesn't, so I guess I'll just say good luck

 

This is what you call “taking the high road” no pun intended.

 

Trigger warning.

 

No one in my family has done anything worse than a glass of wine, I haven’t even done that. What I know about drugs is, creepy people do them and think they’re cool and everyone should join them and whatever they’re into is 100% perfectly safe and you’re wrong unless you 100% agree and that conversation gets old *really* fast. They also can’t stop talking about how great being high is and how it’s ridiculous that laws exist and how anarchy is the way, and we need to ban police and etc.

I don’t even want to know. A friend of mine OD’d on a cocktail of who knows what all, and the very first thing she ever tried was acid. She just “wanted to see what it was” and two years later she’s doing meth, hard liquor, prescription, who knows what else. Needless to say she left our friend circle, started hanging out with really creepy people and had at least one abortion, this was the same girl who was pro-life all in before. 

Honestly it destroys my mood to think about it. Oh of course LSD, acid, pot, shrooms, are not a gateway drug, of course it’s perfectly 100% safe, of course only idiots take it too far. She was a 5.0 honor roll student. Her last grade report had 3 F’s. Now she’s dead. It’s safe, of course. Can’t convince them otherwise.

 

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10 minutes ago, Samantha said:

 

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No one in my family has done anything worse than a glass of wine

Oh no! Since alcohol's one of the worst drugs, that means people in your family have done EVERYTHING!!!!!!

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1 hour ago, Samantha said:

What I know about drugs is, creepy people do them and think they’re cool and everyone should join them and whatever they’re into is 100% perfectly safe and you’re wrong unless you 100% agree and that conversation gets old *really* fast. They also can’t stop talking about how great being high is and how it’s ridiculous that laws exist and how anarchy is the way, and we need to ban police and etc.

I've done my research. I know that there are risks, but I also know that due to many very personal factors, the benefits greatly outweigh the risk for me. I do think that it is ridiculous how a lot of the legal system works, especially laws around drugs, and I do think that we need some very major police reform, so you've got me there.

 

1 hour ago, Samantha said:

She just “wanted to see what it was”

that sounds like the problem to me. she wasn't practicing safe drug use: you shouldn't be taking drugs to learn what they are like, you should only take drugs after you have done as much research as possible and know as much what it's like as you can so that you can make an educated decision about whether or not to take it, and if you take it, so that you can know how to minimize the risks.

 

1 hour ago, Samantha said:

Honestly it destroys my mood to think about it. Oh of course LSD, acid, pot, shrooms, are not a gateway drug, of course it’s perfectly 100% safe, of course only idiots take it too far. She was a 5.0 honor roll student. Her last grade report had 3 F’s. Now she’s dead. It’s safe, of course. Can’t convince them otherwise.

your friend went down a bad path. that sucks. out of respect I am going to avoid commenting on her being pro life. but know this: just because one person died, and because their cause of death can be indirectly linked to her taking LSD, does not mean that LSD is some super dangerous thing that kills everything it touches. people die from skydiving. my friend might go skydiving, and their chute might fail, and their backup chute might fail, and they might hit the ground going very fast and stop being my living, breathing friend and turn into a mess of broken bones and flesh. this would be very sad for me, and I might gain an emotional, non logical, personal aversion to skydiving because of it. but I would still not try to make skydiving illegal, and I would still not try to pressure people into not skydiving, because I know that even though this thing happened to my friend, statistically, very few people die from skydiving, and one extra person dying is not enough to notably change that statistic

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2 hours ago, Tanaka Kanade said:

Oh no! Since alcohol's one of the worst drugs, that means people in your family have done EVERYTHING!!!!!!

 

 

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@Breloomancer

My point is, drugs changed her into something she didn’t expect and you’re ignorant if you think she didn’t make a well informed decision. What kind of friend do you think I am if I didn’t do all the research for her on top of all the research she did. Your presupposition is directly insulting and doesn’t justify your position nor negate mine.

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alchohol is one of the worst ones, and I don't plan on never putting large amounts of it in my body, but it isn't quite the worst. at least it's not as bad as heroin

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7 minutes ago, Samantha said:

My point is, drugs changed her into something she didn’t expect and you’re ignorant if you think she didn’t make a well informed decision.

of course I am ignorant, the way you told the story certainly did not make it seem like she was well informed, and until now I had nothing to make me think otherwise

 

7 minutes ago, Samantha said:

What kind of friend do you think I am if I didn’t do all the research for her on top of all the research she did. Your presupposition is directly insulting and doesn’t justify your position nor negate mine.

you are taking this way too personally. what kind of friend doesn't do research on the drugs that their friends are doing? the friend of someone who doesn't tell them what drugs they are doing until there isn't enough time do research. I also assumed that you did not know a lot about it because you acted as though LSD and acid are two different things, and because I would have expected someone who knows a lot about it to know that just because one person's death was indirectly linked to LSD does not mean that it is something that holds an extreme risk factor.

 

I don't know everything about the situation with your friend. any risk factor that may have been present that could have been negated. maybe she did truly do everything right and she got extremely unlucky. that happens. that is a risk that you need to be willing to take if you do LSD. regardless, your friend dying from LSD says almost nothing about how dangerous it is, and if anecdotes like this do count as evidence, then I know probably over a dozen people who have had positive life changing experiences as a direct result of LSD

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6 hours ago, Tanaka Kanade said:

Right, right, that switching guide isn't a joke, just a meme:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-missile-knows-where-it-is

 

I'm glad I caught up on LOTPW before taking that seriously.

 

3 hours ago, Samantha said:

Isn’t there a trigger or nsfw warning tag on this site?

 

 

As long as it isn't something illegal (such as child porn), it is courteous to put NSFW in spoiler tags.

Trigger warnings are not required here, but it is also polite to give people a warning of what could be triggering.

What you did was perfectly fine.

 


 

[Cat] I was looking up how long you are high while on LSD (realized it's long, roughly 12-16 hours), and I also read that LSD enhances your mood, even if it isn't a positive mood. I think if I tried LSD, there's a risk I would be super paranoid and probably have a bad trip. That was the same concern I had looking into pot- there's a risk it will make me paranoid, not mellow.

 

I thought about experimenting with CBD oil, but since it's new and still unregulated despite the fact it's legal, I could be getting CBD oil and... who knows what else. I don't like the idea of ingesting a drug that could have other stuff in it, because that stuff could be far more dangerous than the base oil.

 

With LSD, there's not even a guarantee how much you are getting when licking the paper. While I'm not sure how bad foul play is with LSD compared to other drugs, I know that drug dealers will put stuff in bags of meth, crack, or heroin that's not any of those things- salt, citric acid, sugar, gravel, dirt, or anything else, possibly other drugs as well. That's the main problem with the vapes- it's not just the nicotine, it's the preservatives, flavoring, smelly chemicals, and everything else that are really bad for you.

 

However, I will admit I grew up in an anti-drug leaning family and became paranoid about drugs just because I get anxious about everything. I don't trust anti-anxiety meds despite never having them.

 

I agree with Ranger on what he said earlier- if you have a guardian around, that's better than doing this alone. At least you have someone there to take care of you if things go wrong.

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10 minutes ago, Ranger said:

[Cat] I was looking up how long you are high while on LSD (realized it's long, roughly 12-16 hours), and I also read that LSD enhances your mood, even if it isn't a positive mood. I think if I tried LSD, there's a risk I would be super paranoid and probably have a bad trip. That was the same concern I had looking into pot- there's a risk it will make me paranoid, not mellow.

LSD lasts for ~12 hours normally, but I now learned that not all of the effects of LSD go away at the same time. after ~13 hours I stopped being high, but my pupils were still all dilated. the mental effects of being on LSD are so powerful that it is impossible to even approximate a description of them in english. it will show you things that you might not be ready for. it will tear down everything that you think that you know about existing and about feeling and about caring and about yourself and about reality, and then out of the rubble it will help you rebuild something new. it will make you appreciate how small and week your mind it, and how incomprehensible and vast the world is. if you are not ready for all of your mental barriers to be removed, and for every self deception and insecurity and everything that you try not to think about to come in to the light where you have no choice but to face it and accept it, then you are not ready to take LSD. LSD will amplify whatever state of mind to a degree that you cannot prepare for, and it will not pull any punches. for me, I was already in a good state of mind and I am already quite a happy person, and I am naturally quite introspective, and Miela already helped me resolve most of my issues, so when I tripped I was ready to accept whatever it showed me about myself as me, even if I didn't like it, and I learned how beautiful the world is, and how connected everything is, and what matters, and what doesn't matter, and I talked to reality and I became reality, and I knew that it is inherently good, and that everything is exactly in place for how it should be, and that it is impossible for it to not be how it should be, because everything is reality, and reality is predetermined. I am not explaining it right because I could never possibly explain it right in english

 

47 minutes ago, Ranger said:

With LSD, there's not even a guarantee how much you are getting when licking the paper. While I'm not sure how bad foul play is with LSD compared to other drugs

there are ways to test how much is on a tab. also, you are supposed to swallow the tab, not let the LSD be absorbed in the mouth. LSD can be absorbed in the mouth, but it is better to let it be absorbed from the intestines because the drug most commonly sold as LSD that isn't LSD (which can be quite dangerous) cannot be absorbed in the in the intestines, so if you get sold fake LSD and don't notice it and swallow it, you are much less likely to die or get badly hurt. you can also tell if it isn't real LSD by the flavor. LSD has no flavor, but on blotter paper it might be slightly bitter. if it tastes really bitter or metallic then spit it out immediately because that is not LSD and is very dangerous to get in your body

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2 hours ago, Breloomancer said:

it will show you things that you might not be ready for. it will tear down everything that you think that you know about existing and about feeling and about caring and about yourself and about reality, and then out of the rubble it will help you rebuild something new. it will make you appreciate how small and week your mind it, and how incomprehensible and vast the world is. if you are not ready for all of your mental barriers to be removed, and for every self deception and insecurity and everything that you try not to think about to come in to the light where you have no choice but to face it and accept it, then you are not ready to take LSD. LSD will amplify whatever state of mind to a degree that you cannot prepare for, and it will not pull any punches. for me, I was already in a good state of mind and I am already quite a happy person, and I am naturally quite introspective, and Miela already helped me resolve most of my issues, so when I tripped I was ready to accept whatever it showed me about myself as me, even if I didn't like it, and I learned how beautiful the world is, and how connected everything is, and what matters, and what doesn't matter, and I talked to reality and I became reality, and I knew that it is inherently good, and that everything is exactly in place for how it should be, and that it is impossible for it to not be how it should be, because everything is reality, and reality is predetermined. I am not explaining it right because I could never possibly explain it right in english

 

That paragraph crawled under my skin. After reading it, it made me think about death. I don't think explaining it further is a good idea.

 

Anything that threatens the idea having an identity is important is very bothersome for me. Even if in the end it doesn't matter, it's hurtful for me to think that I don't matter and all of the progress Cat made doesn't matter.

I'm Ranger, GrayTheCat's cobud (tulpa), and I love hippos! I also like cake and chatting about stuff. I go by Rosalin or Ronan sometimes. You can call me Roz but please don't call me Ron.

My other headmates have their own account now.

 

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