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Hey,

I thought about making a Wonderland, which is the Pokemon-World (A combination from the games and the anime). I guess I will start with the first region Kanto, it will take long enough. Then I will create a Pokemon-Tulpa (I don't know which yet, but it won't be too big), a Rival/Friend-Tulpa and a Pokemon for that Rival/Friend. And what comes next is pretty obvious, we will have fun in the Pokemonworld and fight with our Pokemon :D

Since I can vizualise things easily I will take my Pokemon to school and so on to "train" it. I hope that idea doesn't sound too nerdy, but I'm sooo anxious to try this out :D I just hope the idea of having a Tulpa Rival who has his own Tulpa isn't too hard (if possible).

I will start this week (after that stupid history-test in school -.-) and write about the progress.

 

But like I wrote, having a Tulpa who has his/her own Tulpa is something I'm not sure about. Is that possible in any way?

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Interesting idea, actually. I'm not sure about how it will turn out though, since building such a massive wonderland can be exhausting enough, and here we are also talking about three tulpas at very least... But hey, at least you have the ambition! And Pokemon world seems like a nice place to recreate, so I wish you luck.

 

 

And having a tulpa who also has a tulpa is totally possible. IIRC, I've seen people telling about it on this very forum. And my second tulpa is being forced by my first one, so they definitely force like we do.

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Let me get this straight...

 

you want to create 3 tulpa at once. and you want to have 2 of them fight each other. you are planning on making 2 tulpae as TOYS and having them hurt each other. for your entertainment... are you dead serious right now?

 

i'm sorry if i'm about to come off as rude or obnoxious but there are a lot of things wrong with this...

 

1) 3 tulpa...

that is a lot of tuppers in general. and your planing on making them all at the same time? i have 2 now and i can barely manage that.

 

2) servants

the 2 Pokemon would practically be used as servants. nothing more than toys that you would play with when your bored. how would that make you feel if you were in there position? only created for the sole purpose of entertaining your creator. tulpae are fully sentient beings. they can think and talk and have personalities. Not toys. Not pets.

 

3) they will deviate.

if you make these 2 Pokemon tulpa don't bet on them keeping there forms. they wont look talk and act like whatever Pokemon you want and you shouldn't try to make them. what if they want to be human and don't want to be used for your games? what will you do then? forcing them to keep there forms would be cruel and dissipating (killing) them would be... horrid isn't even a strong enough word. they are sentient beings. they are alive. they most likely will change.

 

4) having them battle?!?

you cant get hurt in the wonderland but i'm pretty sure tuppers can. you'll have to check with someone else on that. but regardless, you want to have the 2 Pokemon tulpa fight. you expect them to hurt each other? are you kidding me? you want to command your 2 tuppers to fight and hurt each other for your entertainment. you might as well just start dog fighting (not really. plz do not start dog fighting. that's illegal bro X3) i don't know what else to say. if you don't see the obvious problem with that sir/ma'am. wow.

 

all of this ^ coming from someone who likes Pokemon too. my ICON is 2 Pokemon (pikachu and eevee = Pikacheeve. there so cute <3)

 

i'm pretty sure there was something else i was going to say but my thoughts just kinda bleh.

 

may i offer some suggestions?

 

the idea of the pokemon thing is pretty cool except for the things listed above. there are other ways of going about it.

 

you can make a tulpa (1. singular. one. O-N-E. uno) and when you want to have a Pokemon battle you can. you don't have to make Pokemon tulpa. you just imagine the Pokemon and do whatever, without making them tuppers though. this way, you don't have a lot of tuppers, no tuppers are 'slaves', and you can have many Pokemon without making a billion tulpa.

 

in fact, you don't even have to create tuppers. just play imaginary Pokemon in your head. then you can battle different Pokemon trainers too.

 

Once again i'm sorry if any of that came off as rude or snobbish but just please think of the consequences and options before you do something so serious. having tulpa is a responsibility. a big one. i hope everything turns out okay for you. good luck!

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Thank's for the answers, I think I have to clear some points.

To Lillywolfy:

I'm not planning to create those 3 Tulpa at once, sorry if I made it sound like that. It will take time, but that's definitely not a bad thing.

And in the Pokemonanime the Pokemon have personalitys, arent't treated like pets (at least by the cool people) and are more like friends. They normally enjoy living with their human partners and like the fighting (and if they turn out as Pokemon who don't like that I will respect that of course), which I definitely not imagined as a brutal way of fighting, like you probably thought. In the end it will only be those 3 Tulpa and me who are fighting, but in a friendly way, because I don't want any of them as enemy-rivals. They will be friends and I will treat them like any other living being and believe me, I hate it very, very much if someone kills fly's or spider's. I really didn't want to sound respectless. And the last thing (I hope I didn't forget something), I will see that whole thing not as a game, because I will treat them like real people. Ok, I knew I forgot something. With changing their forms, do you mean their personality or their lookings? Because the lookings are something my first Tulpa never changed, so I didn't really know that. But I know that they change their personality and that's something good, I don't expect them to stay the same and I wouldn't want that either.

 

And don't worry, it didn't come off as rude or snobbish. After I reread it I understood that I made a lot of things not clear enough and it could seem like they will just be a form of entertainment for me. Thanks for your reply :D

 

EDIT: I don't know why I didn't think about it, but why don't I just ask my first Tulpa, if he wants to be my "friendly Rival"?

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no problem. thank you for clearing those things up. as long as you understand and respect your tuppers i'm sure you'll have no problem.

 

as for the deviation, it can be personality as well as looks. i let me tuppers choose their personalities so that i don't know about. but their forms have changed so. many. times. its unbelievable X3 one of them was a puppybear and now shes a human. so yes tulpa may change forms. there has also been instances of shape shifting tuppers as well (they go back and forth constantly between 2 or more forms) so you might want to explore that. as long as your tuppers are ok with it.

 

ill be looking forward to how this turns out. good luck!

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Thanks, I will respect their physical changes as well. Really interesting how your Tulpas change their forms so much, did you ask the puppybear after he changed into a human how his life as a bear was? And did he notice it immediately that he changed into a human (if you saw the transformation) and still walked on four legs/arms but in his human form :D?

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It might be a better idea to use wonderland NPCs for that stuff. You can give them limited sentience, but they don't have to be as sentient as a tulpa. Also suspension of disbelief (in harm/pain) in pokemon battling is a lot harder outside of the games and animated show, especially if you consider the pokemon sentient.

 

I think it'd be a better idea to have your tulpa act as your rival - and both of you can battle with those Pokemon NPCs that are only semi-sentient. I also wouldn't lock your tulpa(s) into a role so limiting as that. Wonderland Pokemon battling seems like more of a pastime/game than a dedicated purpose.

 

Don't know if you want a human tulpa though? Having a pokemon Pokemon trainer might be a bit weird.


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4) having them battle?!?

you cant get hurt in the wonderland but i'm pretty sure tuppers can. you'll have to check with someone else on that. but regardless, you want to have the 2 Pokemon tulpa fight. you expect them to hurt each other? are you kidding me? you want to command your 2 tuppers to fight and hurt each other for your entertainment. you might as well just start dog fighting (not really. plz do not start dog fighting. that's illegal bro X3) i don't know what else to say. if you don't see the obvious problem with that sir/ma'am. wow.

 

That is hardly different from actual pokemon battles in moral aspect though, since most pokemon show some degree of sentience and some of them are arguably even more sentient than humans are. Yet still they fight. If you have no problems with that while having problems with tulpa fighting then you are a hypocrite. Also, if we consider anime, it is not like pokemon are forced to fight. They can disobey, they can leave. In most cases they fight because they trust their trainer, not because they are slaves.

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i am aware of that, But i am not talking about pokemon. i am talking about making tuppers as pokemon.

 

i don't have a problem with Pokemon fighting in a show because its not real. there is not literally a Pokemon battle going on somewhere in the world because they don't exist. tuppers do exist. they are real. so yes, there is a difference.

 

and i am aware in the show they are not forced to fight but if Kara wanted to he could force them to. i was just letting him know that ain't cool. i was not aware of his motives so i was just making sure. and as far as leaving goes Pokemon may be able to leave but i don't think tuppers can leave on their own (not entirely sure though).

 

so once again, me being okay with the show, but not okay with making tupper Pokemon, does not make me a hypocrite. they are two very different things

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It might be a better idea to use wonderland NPCs for that stuff. You can give them limited sentience, but they don't have to be as sentient as a tulpa. Also suspension of disbelief (in harm/pain) in pokemon battling is a lot harder outside of the games and animated show, especially if you consider the pokemon sentient.

 

I think it'd be a better idea to have your tulpa act as your rival - and both of you can battle with those Pokemon NPCs that are only semi-sentient. I also wouldn't lock your tulpa(s) into a role so limiting as that. Wonderland Pokemon battling seems like more of a pastime/game than a dedicated purpose.

 

Thanks for the idea, I didn't consider NPCs, I will try to find a good guide. I hope my Tulpa agrees to playing the rival-role, he would seem a bit...strange in the Pokemonworld. And I will overthink making a Pokemon-Tulpa, because the thing with suspension of disbelief really is a problem and I don't know how I would change their pain sensation to 0%.

 

I guess, then the new concept will be my first Tulpa (hopefully) as the Rival and different Pokemon-NPC's (after I learned how to create those) in the Kanto-Wonderland.

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