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Making a Non-Zero day

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I'll start by prefacing that I have what my doctors (of which I need several) call an "extreme case" of Panic disorder and an overall high anxiety level. I discuss with my therapist about making what I call (I read a blog and really wish I could credit the person who coined the term) "Non Zero days" where if I'm not feeling great and maybe I'm more anxious or panicked I do something little like even drink a little extra water or even write a post on the forums. I think could really benefit to look at progress with my tulpa the same way. I'm at a place where my anxiety and panic keep me from concentrating and some days I just have a heck of a time trying to force. And I know other people have concentration issues so I don't know I'm posting this, one as a thought for people to maybe just accept a less productive day and make it a "non-zero day" instead, but also as maybe a way of asking if anybody has times like this and how they handle it.

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This idea of yours seems to stem, and this is just based on conjecture from the OP, that you can visualize the progress of your tulpa from an objective standpoint where you don’t have to worry about coming to terms with yourself and the anxiety you’re trying to overcome and deal with. But when you step out of that objective standpoint where you try to map out an objective, and actually have to figure out the “how” in assessing yourself to consistently bring out that objective throughout your life, you may end up being demystified on what to do.

 

What I’m getting at is that if the actual endeavor of creating a tulpa is to gradually relief a certain disposition you’re trying to overcome, what will you do should you overcome the anxiety and other “disorders” that were being diagnosed to you? Do you feel that by some miracle, that posting through the forums will be the cure-all to persevering through that struggle? And even if the forum does help as a supplement with dealing with things, and even if you make a progress report about your journey with creating a tulpa, how would you see yourself handling other things after you’ve dealt with the anxiety?

 

Because from threads I’ve read before, it seems that people that create tulpas in circumstances like yours seem to have their(the tulpa’s) existence contingent on the current struggles they’re trying to go through; especially when it’s apparent that those struggles will end up being transient, and rarely would become something long-lasting. And when they’re aware of them rising above those struggles, they look back at their progress, and see if it’s of any relevance now that they’ve had experiential learning to cope with things.

 

For me personally, there’s always going to be those days where you just can’t fixate on them as much; you may be able to constantly assure yourself that they exist within your private and subjective experience, but life just comes out at you that way where you’ll end up absorbing your time doing something else. But you just learn how to deal with those ongoing adversities in life to where it’s music to your ears because you know what your silver lining is that keeps you going.

 

Going to the point where you plan out what you want to do with the mindset that should that schedule go awry, it’s not that big of a deal because you can pick yourself up, and get yourself hyped up on the next time you can force. But I feel that if people want to have that positive mindset through hard times like that, they just have to find their own way of coming to terms with not just themselves, but the companions they want to feel is real within their subjective experience.

 

If you feel how you’re doing the non-zero days thing can help out with that, and is something where you feel your tulpa-in-question doesn’t have to be wholly contingent on, IMO, there’s nothing wrong with using that as a stepping stone. But just think about it, and imagine yourself dealing with your problem, and seeing if the existence of a tulpa in your perception will be relevant to you at all.

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My Anxiety does not make me. I have panic attacks great, but let me be very clear there is no cure-all the reason I mention posting on this forum is because it pushes my boundaries it makes my hands shake, and my heart race generally because I am timid to socialize. I was simply comparing a process of building up my confidence and resilience with building anything, I just started learning mandolin same thing, I have to press my pinky on the fret-board but it's not very strong right now so I have to build up the strength through practice and determination did I pick up the mandolin because I panic? No I was interested and enjoyed it same thing with my tulpa and that's all.

 

"it seems that people that create tulpas in circumstances like yours seem to have their(the tulpa’s) existence contingent on the current struggles they’re trying to go through" I feel almost put down by that. I was trying to make an analogy and perhaps you over read it I was only suggesting something that I'm sure you could agree on that it takes determination and patience to have a tulpa

 

I do not think my tulpa is at all synonymous with my mental issues. Hope that clears up my position

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I tend to read between the lines of almost every post because I’m not competent to know that individual’s backstory, or their agenda on what they want to do with their lives with their tulpas. This is why I put that it’s mostly just conjecture, and I usually just wait until the OP responds. If I could know what went on in your mind, I wouldn’t be over-analyzing, or over-reading, but I can only use what I’ve observed from others, and what I learned for myself in hopes that they can at least have some idea to be aware of, and they’ll figure out how to handle it themselves.

 

Though I feel the mandolin thing was a bit non-sequential in your assumption with

 

so I have to build up the strength through practice and determination did I pick up the mandolin because I panic?

as that wasn’t apparent in your original post, so I don’t think you could’ve assumed I was questioning your competency with a mandolin, even if it was a rough analogy and all. How I interpreted the OP is that when you mentioned

 

write a post on the forums.

 

I thought this was you wondering if it was normal for people to express themselves on forums like this to vent out their thoughts, and to just let their minds go free in hopes that through interaction with others, they could collectively come to a solution to a problem they’re having; even if the solution is temporary.

 

I feel almost put down that. I was trying to make an analogy and perhaps you over read it I was only suggesting something that I'm sure you could agree on that it takes determination and patience to have a tulpa' date=' anyway I hope this cleared up my position.[/quote']

 

If I’m reading this right, and forgive me if I’m not, I’m not here to put you down, or to make you feel bad about yourself. There’s been countless threads where people have intentions to make a tulpa to make themselves feel at ease while learning how to deal with their own problems in life. But the circumstance I was loosely categorizing your case in was more of a challenging disposition a person has that will most likely fade away over time. And when that happens, the bigger questions of the relevancy of a tulpa’s existence, in their (the host’s) subjective experience, becomes apparent, and they start feeling the weight behind what they’re really doing.

 

Some may not know what to do after they handled an adversity like anxiety for instance, and may wonder if their tulpa is nothing more than having an aesthetic existence instead of one where the host and tulpa try to mutually find and attribute personal meaning and values in their lives progressively despite of the odds that they’ll face eventually. That type of aim, IMO, ends up in some way with a disposition where forcing doesn’t become much of a chore because the idea of just imagining them, and being able to do all sorts of things that could give both of your lives meaning becomes natural; even if a person ends up being depressed, or anxious about something, they’ll learn how to reign themselves back together, and maybe enjoy the experiential learning potential when it comes to facing adversity, even if it’s just a mental barrier they have to climb.

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I think I read between the lines myself and I'm very sorry and the truth is Jen helps me with my anxiety and panic alot but she means so much more to me than that I guess I missed your point and I was a upset but I didn't define it well enough for you to see it more than any other case that like you said you've seen so many of and I understand now you were trying to help me in my journey with Jen in asking me if she has a place outside of my anxiety so thank you and I appreciate your analyzing the information to try and help me! and ya the mandolin analogy was weak sorry I was frustrated, but main point She will stick around and I know that now so thank you again!

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