Midnight Gaze April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 So, a few days ago I carelessly mentioned Tulpas at the dinner table to my parents and older brother. They didn't seem too interested in it. The next night, I commented about how cool Tulpas were and my mom said she was going to look it up. My dad didn't like all the time I was spending on the internet and said I should focus on things with more immediate effects on my life, like studying(I have testing this week). So, this night, my mom had found pages about Tulpas. It should be known that she is very religious(while my dad's more scientific, but he still doesn't approve). So apparently, she found pages about which craft, Buddhism and Tulpas, which she immediately dissapoved of. She said it's something I shouldn't get into, despite my rather weak argument. I'm still ticked off, but I can kind of understand how weird it would be to have your early-teenage years daughter showing interest in something that is witchcraft related. (If this is confusing, it's because these events just happened and I'm not sure how to put it) My dad, on the other hand, said it was vain and that he didn't understand why someone would want to make a tulpa. So, do you have any really informative/misconception-clearing pages on Tulpas or anything on the positive effects a tulpa can have? I want to at least inform my dad on Tulpas, if not convince him that there are good reasons someone would want one. P.s: Keep in mind, both of my parents are exhibiting anomalous behavior here. My mom isn't the one to call "Demons and evil!1!!1!" on everything(or anything, really), while my dad isn't usually so quick to dismiss me. Both of them are no stranger to doing extensive research on a topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminesce April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 What they're worried about is the religion in the history of tulpas, and I guess present. You can reassure them that it's more of a psychological science, that a tulpa is simply training your mind to be able to "run" another set of thoughts, which can be incredibly useful for getting second opinions simply by talking to. (Which is true, for the same reason people write diaries/journals. Just by formulating the thoughts, you may notice solutions or perspectives you hadn't before, and tulpas often express ones we're only subconsciously aware of) The problem then is making sure they aren't overprotective about you being anti-social, etc. The natural parent response at that point is to say you should make real friends, this isn't healthy, and so on. Obviously I'm assuming you're responsible for yourself here. So what I'd suggest is just talking about tulpamancy as a science experiment, or a fun hobby. Or you could try to fully explain the whole science-y concept behind them, but that takes more work and requires being well-spoken on the subject. Feel free to shape the advice to your own situation. Personally, I am the type of person that people would fully understand doing something like this "for science". But maybe the social/companionship/self-introspection route would work better for you. Or maybe you could just tell them everything. Or at worst, you just don't talk about it. That's the only option a majority of the forum's members seem to have. It's just more fun if you have the choice to share with open-minded people, but no one's forcing you to talk about it. (Probably) Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn. Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature. My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conflictedebola April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 Oh man, I couldn't IMAGINE telling my mom about any of this. Probably because she wouldn't understand a word of it, to be honest. It's kind of funny because she's unknowingly talked to Howl before. Worst case scenario, you could always say it was a phase you were thinking about but decided against and just continue on by yourself in secret. (I got mad hiding-things-from-your-parents skills) As for positive/beneficial things, my mental state has mostly improved since Howl started actively communicating with me. He's good at (sometimes literally) slapping sense into me when I'm feeling neurotic or having anxiety attacks. He's also managed to put a mental block on attempts I make to hurt myself. But mostly he's pretty much replaced my disassociation issues. I haven't been troubled by it since he's become sentient (probably because he's filled in the blanks). Plus the whole 'lifelong companion' thing is a bonus. :> If I could, begin to be, Half of what you think of me, I could do about anything, I could even learn how to love directed at Howl directed from Howl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STeeK April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 Like Reisen said, I think there is two options; "for science" and "for rial" I actually can imagine the reaction of my parents The "For science" option Dad: "uhu" Mom: "And where do you learn that? The Uni?" Me: "Internet" *Topic is changed drastically* Like a normal university student, my parent have some high hopes on me, so the "for rial" option will probably turn quickly in a call to the psychiatrist from my mom I'm the minor of 2; everything that probably delay finish my career will result on a eventually delay on their retirement. So, maybe they are more worried about themselves than me Mom: "Dad, thats happens for the eternal hours he has been locked in his room everyday. Come on, say something" Dad: "uhu" Me: "But she didun du nuthing!!1" *Silence* Mom: "DAD, SAY SOMETHING" Dad: "That thing help you to study?" Me: "Ehh... no?" Aaand... it's gone -> Roseluck's Art Gallery and Requests <- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkzelda April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 I personally would prefer to revel in the fact that I can’t let anyone I have a close-knit relationship with understand what’s going on in my private and subjective experience. Simply because I’m probably incredulous in validating something like that to them, and with some of their personal experiences with them feeling they were dealing with mystical and supernatural type of stuff, and even religious endeavors as well, it would just send them into a Salem Witch Trials type of hysteria. I mentioned circumstances like in the OP in a grandiose series of mini articles I was making before that I was apathetic in updating on what you could expect with informing and potentially confessing to others about tulpas. If your father likes extensive stuff, they could give that google docs link a shot to see the endeavor isn’t contingent wholly on demonic things, or whatever worst case scenario one could come up with. Or they can read any other guide, or submissions and threads that have a conceptual road-map in how one may assess themselves so they can see that people are just trying to find a way to have their tulpas part of their day-to-day lifestyle with no intention of being –insert exaggerated disorders people associate tulpas with here that would also require empirical underpinning to validate-. But I digress; whatever you want to do, I guess anecdotes such as these are just testaments that if we can’t prepare ourselves for the series of emotive responses from our loved ones, it’s probably best for the time being, to have the mindset of having some kind of solitude with your companion until you can map things out better. And if something like, for example, being able to not be as reactive towards their emotive responses (e.g. you being ticked off and thinking they’re just being typical parents that are over-protective) is part of improving that on your end, then so be it, if you wish. It's easier for us to be short and sweet with our intentions with tulpas and crush down any tl;dr, but feeling it can be sufficient when it comes to informing others about it is just us ignoring the probability of the research we went into conceptualizing that would make said tl;dr's an understatement; it's just one not being thoughtful of realizing that you can't just input what you studied and went through, and expect people to get the full blown experience just like that. They would have to go through the same navigation like you did, albeit you would show them what you would feel are the essentials to subside their doubting. ___ TL;DR: With information on tulpas, and people associating more things than just through a psychological standpoint being somewhat rare (probably because people are content with short and laconic responses with no further justifications to make a plausible stance on their endeavors), it’s probably best to just wait things out when the community puts in more information on theories and what have you, and actually acknowledging to others that they’re merely just that, and obviously won’t have any empirical underpinnings unless there’s endeavors in doing so. But I’m sure your parents care mostly on your well-being first, and predispositions of how they see what’s best for you instead of how you see what’s best for you would naturally take more priority than having to go through trial-and-error sorting things out in this forum and other mediums pertaining to tulpas. But again, it begs the question once more on whether or not how you assess yourself in your private and subjective experience that would be difficult to hand over to them to come to an understanding would be best for you in the first place? [align=center]7 Hours of Active Forcing 8 Hours & 29 Minutes of Active Forcing 10 Hours of Active Forcing[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcmanish April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 Hmm i would have no problem to tell my parents but i dont realy see a point on doing this personally. Why do you want to tell your parents about tulpas? If it is becuse you are intrested in it and it helped you they should try to open their mind for you, atleast accepting that it is good for you. Everyone i told about my tulpa got interested in it (well i have good social contacts so far) but i was also prepaired to deal with worries or stupid answers. Maybe show your parrents this page and let them see how big the comunity is and how many people of diffrent countries and relegions are together. Yeah well the science part usually works for the most people it´s good to explain the concept. Lacie(my tulpa for my everydaylife and also my best friend) Noah together with Lynn are my spirituell tulpa´s im using for meditation Darcmanish Me Lacie´s and my progress report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushi April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 How To Inform Parents on Tulpas Don't. And that ties up this thread. On to the next. But seriously, I think that in general it's better not to tell anyone about your tulpas. For many people -- the majority of people, even -- talking to something that no one else can see means either insanity or demons. For that reason, telling people can end very badly. You could lose your job, your relationship, your friends. And what do you stand to gain? Very little. I suggest you read this PR. I also suggest you let your parents win this argument, tell them you're not going to dabble with tulpas, and then continue in secret. That's what I did, and it's worked well for me for nearly two years now. "Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminesce April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 Don't. And that ties up this thread. On to the next. That naturally made me want to tell my parents because I don't like being told what to do, lol. I've told my brother and friends and could just as well tell my mom (my dad already considers me extremely intelligent so that would mean nothing). No reason to though, just because it would be alright in the end doesn't mean it wouldn't take a lot of convincing, and has tons of potential to be awkward afterward. If I ever got a "Say hi to Reisen for me!" from a family member I'd hurt something. Hi! I'm Lumi, host of Reisen, Tewi, Flandre and Lucilyn. Everyone deserves to love and be loved. It's human nature. My tulpas and I have a Q&A thread, which was the first (and largest) of its kind. Feel free to ask us about tulpamancy stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amber5885 April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 Yeah If I were you I would drop the subject and tell your parents you quit. It's generally a very bad idea to tell anyone about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcmanish April 14, 2015 Share April 14, 2015 Yeah If I were you I would drop the subject and tell your parents you quit. It's generally a very bad idea to tell anyone about it. I would´nt say it is generally bad. I think most intelliegent people will listen to you if you can explain the positiv aspect of tulpas and even how they can work as a tool to help you remember things for example. Well im old enought to say **** you to everyone who start treat me like an psychopath after i told him that but i would´nt tell somebody who don´t know me so reactions like this would be very rare. I would´nt tell it to my family if im afraid of telling them, alteast there is no need to do this anyway but if i would i could life with the consequenses. Oh shit i already did and im not burned yet? Lacie(my tulpa for my everydaylife and also my best friend) Noah together with Lynn are my spirituell tulpa´s im using for meditation Darcmanish Me Lacie´s and my progress report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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