Guest Anonymous August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 I will not make any comment on that, but what I will say is that there are still people that come in with inquiries about tulpamancy, there are still people who, after months, have no real results, or very weak results in terms of how 'imposing' they are. Just look at the PR section, look at how many people are 'facing issues', how many beginners seem to worry about the duration, go on IRC, talk to people like Auriroth and the likes. I will not make a comment on that because I believe that a lot of people in this community tend to pretend, and I've seen distinctions between 'pretending' and having a tulpa. It is not pleasant to hear that from me so I won't admit it as a reality, but that was just to explain my reason for which I won't make a comment, else we'd go into a whole different topic. Yes it does require efforts, concentration and attention. The glasses in your avatar seem to imply you can read well so you should understand the site's definition of a tulpa and understand that making a different person in your head does take efforts. To add on to my point, I've seen a lot of people who made tulpas 'very fast', chemical enhancers or not, facing a world of issues and ordeals (e.g Raelyn25 from IRC, for instance.), while people who spent a lot of time until they got an answer and took their time while giving attention, care, etc... seem to face less issues, while there are still concerns about parroting and the likes, there seems to be less issues overall. Overall, I think that discussing this point of view would drive us into a completely different discussion; One I would be glad to take part in, but in another thread. To address your second point, no, not at all. As you know, people tend to be skeptical about anything that's related to drugs and your mind, let's take tripping as an example, nothing is actually real but it seems quite vivid to the guy who's having the trip, correct? I'd compare it to this whole thing, because now, with the methods, guides (old ones, as you said), there is a basis, logical explanation as to HOW tulpas exist. Wait. If there was a doubt-mongering part (loved the expression), people would doubt the guides and methods at hand all the same, no? But since it's about drugs, and drugs CAN give you a lot of hallucinations/the psychosis Mistgod spoke of in his original post, I think that you're kind of wrong. Experiences issued from a trip, or drugs overall, as I previously said, don't tend to sound credible to most people. I'm not saying they aren't, I'm trying to adapt an impartial point of view deprived of bias and speaking logically, but most people would, as a matter of fact, just straight out call bullshit on this whole thing; Because the methods we have MAKE SENSE in layman's terms, to put it that way. 'You imagine a being, you talk to it, you give it a name and traits, and voila, after a few months you have a tulpa, and you will need to experiment stuff with your tulpa, make it go through stuff, it will have emotions, problems, epiphanies of their own, etc...' is what I mean, not 'Alright so you smoke this kind of herb/plant, and you will get a hallucination that IS SUPPOSED to be your tulpa, next....', just the start of this will bring up even MORE suspicion and skepticism overall, to anyone, anyone at all. We tend to try to study this phenomenon from the most scientific side of things (even though I would agree with Mistgod when it comes to pseudo-science, heh). They give a general idea, though, that's something you cannot deny. As I said, as a demonstration of that, go on the IRC and try to talk to the people over there about their general idea of tulpamancy, it tends to be the same as what the methods/guides/main site promotes, and then you have the meta folks but we're not talking of meta in here. I think that you're biased, but in the same while, Mistgod also seems biased considering he cares for the well-being of youngsters and is an educator, and also sees bad stuff in drugs, bad stuff that beats the good stuff. I'm not speaking of morality or ethics, though. Wait, dude. If you need to, like, read each line of my post, stop, put down your glasses, drink some coffee and spit it on the screen then resume reading my post, you might have a problem with comprehending the stuff I tell you, because I said that my personal opinion had no place in this discussion in the same paragraph... And I'm Bizarro. Hm. I apologize if I hurt some of your IRC-friends (*cough*), but that should be no reason for me to be mocked for no reason. What actually happens is a world of possibilities, though. As I said, and keep on saying, now for the third time, drug usage has proved to be largely relative, and there IS a possibility, which really does matter. A lot of stuff happens with people but there's a general identification for this phenomenon as we know it (force--->make tulpa--->live with tulpa), odd cases happen, but drugs are a whole different thing, because every experience is really, really relative to the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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