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Possession: By a Tulpa for Tulpas By: Arcanus of the Dragonheart System Introduction Possession is an optional skill in Tulpamancy that allows a tulpa to access the physical world; it gives a chance for a tulpa to experience things not curated or managed by their host or other system members. Thus, what is possession? For those uninformed, possession is quite simply the act of a tulpa or other system members taking partial or full control of the physical body while the previous person in control is still connected to said body. For many tulpas, this is our primary manner of accessing and interacting with the same world our hosts do, especially so for systems where the host is incapable of fully disconnecting from the body, often considered a highly important step for switching. As such, even possession itself is desired by many tulpas for this opportunity of interacting with the outside, with people who are not of the same mind and body, and to gain experience and develop as individuals. Numerous possession guides are often created by hosts rather than tulpas or by a neutral viewpoint; there are very few possession guides designed by tulpas themselves who are capable of possession and wish to teach it to others. This guide is crafted by a tulpa who has existed as such for four years, and has been capable of possessing quite well for nearly as long. The aim with this piece is to guide other tulpas with this specific perspective in hopes of sparking a form of eureka moment for other tulpas that can be the flicker necessary to obtain this skill, and for tulpas who use solely nonhuman forms that may be uncomfortable with the idea of using a human body. Preparation and Mindset Before attempting possession, there are things to consider and prepare for. These preparations allow future training sessions for possession to be less vexing, and can aid in avoiding potential issues further down the line. A primary thing a host and tulpa should obtain before practicing possession is the ability to have clear communication between each other, often in the form of vocality. Seizing control of the body is an action that requires both parties to communicate their feelings to each other consistently, especially when speaking about consent. Without clear communication, a situation can go awry or create a schism between the two parties. For example, imagine a tulpa possessing the body without informing the host first, causing bewilderment and fear within the host who had no inkling that the tulpa was going to possess. On the opposing side, picture a tulpa possessing and performing activities when the host snatches back control deliberately and without warning, and thus disrupts what the tulpa was doing. With both parties, this can cause unease and anxiety simply due a lack of communication and respecting boundaries. To avoid this, both the tulpa and host need to speak with each other and mutually agree to the possession beforehand through means akin to vocality or even tulpish. If one member does not consent, then the other should not ignore the boundaries set by the other person. However, this does not mean a host should unreasonably prevent a tulpa from possessing. There are reasonable times to possess and situations where possession is not ideal where a host may state, "Sorry, now's not a good time because we're in public," and other circumstances that are unreasonable such as, "Sorry, but I don't want you doing this harmless thing." From personal experience, it can be quite thrilling to possess and experience existence in such a physical and lifelike sense, but it is best to show self-restraint and ask before attempting possession. For further reading to learn about techniques to build communication and vocality, here are a few well-written guides: Tulpamancy: Guide Into the Strange and Wonderful: Section 13: Vocality & Section 25: Methods of Communication Tips for Hearing Your Tulpa Quantum's Nametag Method Clear communication often also requires the tulpa to be fairly developed, capable of making informed decisions without the host's input while also being mature enough to handle any possible outside world responsibilities. Younger tulpas have a tendency to be childish and emotional in nature, even being somewhat unstable in form and personality at times, as they continue to establish their identity with forcing sessions and experience. Therefore, a younger tulpa may not understand the importance of respecting boundaries, maintaining what are usually the host's responsibilities such as school or occupations, or may make emotional decisions in favor of logical ones. Harsh world experiences can also be stressful for the tulpa and negatively impact their development while they are still malleable and easily influenced, thus it is ideal for the tulpa to be developed to the point of their identity being mostly solidified and where they have learned to manage their emotions in times of stress and hardship. How much time it takes for both of these to be met is subjective and has a high degree of variance between Tulpamancers. Both maturity and vocality can come with time, consistent forcing sessions, and patience. What is imperative is to not rush possession; possession is not a fleeting opportunity that is capable of vanishing at a moment's notice. Regardless of the system's age, possession is a skill that will always be available, thus do not feel the need to rush it or obtain it as quickly as humanly possible. Nor should a Tulpamancy system feel as though they are obligated to learn possession. Though few in number, there are tulpas who are quite content with never being in control of the body, instead preferring to be imposed on the material plane or live their lives in a mindscape. Neither host or tulpa should be forced into learning a skill they do not wish to learn if they do not desire it within reason, however, it does not harm either to at least attempt possession once. Finally, another common issue, specifically for hosts, is a sense of fear or anxiety when pondering the idea of the tulpa taking control. This fear is reasonable, especially with how possession and control swapping is often portrayed in many nations and cultures. In tandem with this, the host is often one who has spent their entire existence being the singular entity of the body; switching as a concept is a direct opposite of what the vast majority of humanity believes to be the sole way of existence, that each consciousness belongs to one vessel and is that vessel. There are some hosts who require self-introspection and must accept that they are not the body itself, but a single consciousness of multiple that happens to dwell within it. Anxiety for switching can stem from pathological anxiety or this mindset of singularity, and thus not all Tulpamancy-specific advice may apply. Trust between both parties is critical when exchanging control, not simply that they will do no harm with the power they are given, but as a general rule. For both the tulpa and the host: trust in the tulpa to be responsible, and trust in the host to allow the tulpa to safely express themself without overstepping boundaries. Any and all concerns should be spoken about between both members and genuinely listened to, this includes doing whatever possible to negate any doubts or fears. In conjunction with maturity, the ability to communicate properly, and dousing any fears and anxieties, another key factor in possession is the mindset of both the host and tulpa. It can be deceivingly simple to believe that possession is this archaic skill, possibly due to preexisting connotations of possession from various forms of media and how only supernatural beings are capable of performing this feat. Despite this, possession is not impossible to achieve, nor does it take years for most Tulpamancy systems to gain. Remember that both the tulpa and host exist within the same mind and body; both parties have access to the same neural pathways, and thus access to movement. As months become years, a tulpa eventually reaches a point to being on equal footing with the host, being a fully separate person capable of all the same feats the host is capable of and not simply some entity that can be willed away on a whim. In addition to this, it is a highly prevalent and pervasive myth that the host must manually dissociate from the body to allow the tulpa to possess. Quite frankly, this is false, as many tulpas have proven to be capable of possession while the host is still fully connected to the body and is aware of what the body is doing. Mindset, however not being an absolute factor, can still majorly influence how quickly or slowly a skill in Tulpamancy is gained. Another belief that can stymie possession training is the belief that the tulpa is lesser, weaker, or simply less capable than the host. By doing this, the host is setting unnecessary limitations on the tulpa, which further slows skill development. When speaking about Tulpamancy, one should not think in absolutes, but instead keep an open mind for any possibility instead of denying or wholeheartedly believing a certain outcome will occur. Thirdly and finally with possession myths, older guides often reference possession being this "alien" feeling when experienced, a sensation easily noticeable. In recent years, many Tulpamancers have started fervently exclaiming that possession will not feel alien and that it was merely an artifact from the past. As previously stated, believing in absolutes is often an unhelpful mindset in Tulpamancy. Despite the claims from either side, there are Tulpamancers who experience this "alien" feeling and others who do not. A possible explanation for this is a tulpa's presence and the sensation it gives when the tulpa possess, or perhaps this "alien" feeling is more common with tulpas with nonhuman forms that clash more with a human body when attempting to control it. Regardless of whether or not a system will experience this "alien" feeling is unimportant, as many believe this sensation alerts the host whether or not the tulpa is actually moving the body. If one is simply unsure if the body's movement was theirs or their tulpa's, they can simply verify it with the tulpa instead of merely guessing. Once mentally overcoming these hurdles to the best of one's ability, possession is much more likely to be swift with ample progression and lowering the possibility of tribulations in the future. Step-by-Step Process and Explanation At last, the process of possession specifically for tulpas in the perspective of another tulpa. For the sake of brevity and simplicity, the possession strategy will be laid out in steps first, then the explanation will be placed after the method itself. Remember that this method is done solely in the perspective of the tulpa, however, the host at minimum should relax in whatever means they wish and simply allow the tulpa to go through the process. Begin by connecting to the body's senses, look through the body's eyes, feel the gravity of the earth pulling downwards, take in any scents or sounds that can be heard, and even pay close attention to any flavors the mouth may be experiencing. Hone in on a singular sense, whichever is desired. With the eyes, absorb every single detail possible, every color, every shape, their distance from the body, and more as an example. Or not simply feel the effect of gravity, but also the textures of objects or even the body itself, the temperature of the air or ground, and potentially even focus on negative sensations such as pain if they are present. Entrench oneself in that specific sense until feeling completely absorbed by it, entranced to the point of losing awareness of one's form or anything else, even the thoughts of oneself or the host. Become that sense, become the eyes, become the skin, the nose, the mouth, or ears. Not simply using the sense, but embodying that sense itself. Once this step is complete, repeat the process with the other senses, slowly becoming them while remaining connected to the ones already focused on. With every sense focused intensely on, attempt to move the body in some capacity. An example would be moving the eyes if the first step taken was to become sight. Attempt to do this with the other senses and what they are related to. Move the body's arms, look around, take a deep breath, and listen to one's environment. If the process was successful, the tulpa will be possessing the body. Note how this strategy does not ask the host to "give up" the body or instruct the tulpa to flow their essence into the body unlike other possession guides. The mindset behind the method presented is guiding the tulpa to essentially synchronize with the body to the point of becoming one with it instead of a nonphysical person, becoming so lost with the world they are experiencing that they simply forget that they are a passenger in the car. When honing in on or focusing highly on a sense, it can be possible for a tulpa to accidentally begin possessing what controls that sense. For example, a tulpa may be interested in what the host is eating, paying such close attention to the food that they begin to experience it physically, possibly even moving the mouth to eat without realizing it. However, not all tulpas understand the idea of "connecting" to the body's senses, especially tulpas used to living their days in a mindscape. Quite simply, this can be done through intuition and trial and error, or through symbolic means that translate to the act of connecting. It boils down to: what makes sense? For every tulpa, this is highly subjective and there is no flawless method that can be taught. One must also keep in mind that following these steps may not be successful the first attempt or even after multiple attempts. Rather, a tulpa may take time learning how to focus on a particular sense, or possibly learning how to focus so intently in any sense. One day may be a day filled with progress, but said progress is halted by a singular part, mileage will vary between systems. Possession for Nonhuman Tulpas Not every tulpa takes on a human appearance, or even an appearance that matches a human's general shape. Though a tulpa is not quite literally their form, there are some tulpas who are quite connected to their form in a sense either through means of identity or simply out of fondness for their appearance. For tulpas in this category, possession or fronting at all can be uncomfortable or possibly unpleasant due to the contrast between the body and the tulpa's form; this connection with the tulpa's form can also impact how they act whilst in control such as mannerisms, walking style, or even voice to a notable degree. Common advice to counteract this is for the tulpa to temporarily take a human form when fronting to ease the bodily dysphoria, yet, there are tulpas who are uncomfortable with that idea and would prefer to avoid it. This section is intended for tulpas who are uncomfortable with changing their form just to front. A simple way to ease the discomfort of body dysphoria is to accept any "quirky" fronting mannerisms, opting to embrace them instead of fully attempting to act like a human. Walking on toes, using hands in a way that is considered odd, even imposing one's own form over the body to whatever capacity within reason (typically known as "phantom limbs if this includes adding otherwise nonexistent limbs). Unless it is necessary not to out the system as plural to others the system is not out to yet, allow oneself to be nonhuman in nature regardless of if they are currently using a human body. Another method is to have the mindset of, "I am not actually a human, just a nonhuman taking control of a human body," much like the more fantastical definition of possession many are familiar with. This mindset can create a disconnect that may ease the dysphoria, especially for tulpas who solely identify as a singular or set form. Choose articles of clothing or accessories that match the form or at minimum, mask the human shape such as hoodies or sweatpants. One can also avoid staring at the body in the mirror or undressing, but this can have the negative consequences of becoming more and more avoidant of the body, which is not ideal if one wishes to become at least somewhat accustomed with it. Conclusion Being able to control a physical body can be a wonderful opportunity to grow as a person, form relationships and bond with new people, and to have meaningful impact on the world. Possession in of itself may not be a tedious challenge, but it also may not be a breeze a tulpa and host can accomplish within a day. Remember that this guide and strategy are one of many; do not feel shackled to a particular method if it is simply not working out. Every host and tulpa's experiences with possession will vary to some degree, and that is the beauty of such a thing, as it allows for many to share their experiences and knowledge that can reach out to benefit others. I do hope this guide aids my fellow tulpas. Feedback and constructive criticism is welcome, as this guide is subject to changes and improvements.
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Perfect Possession is simple! Here's how to enact it! Great for beginners!
Luigi.exe replied to Ice909's question in Community Guides
I think a main issue with this is that older guides perpetuate the idea of switching being hard, and it makes me wonder how many people who still read them actually absorb the idea that switching is challenging. Because the problem is with older guides is that they still exist and can be read as easily as a modern guide, but the vast majority of those old guide authors are no longer around, nor willing to change or update their guides. As such, they're just left in this state of being outdated, thus having the potential to spread outdated ideas that can negatively influence people. That's like, the whole reason I suggested a historic guides section when .info eventually moves all the guides and such. Yeah, specific methods aren't a bad thing, I'm just trying to think of how many people this would benefit. Glad I can present ample feedback since I know what it's like to be an author, pour your soul into your guide, and all you get is a "it's good." -
Perfect Possession is simple! Here's how to enact it! Great for beginners!
Luigi.exe replied to Ice909's question in Community Guides
Y'know, when Rylazide was reading this, all I could get from his thoughts were, "I have no idea what's going on here," and I couldn't tell if that was Rylazide just being Rylazide, the fact that he was mentally drained after working on something for a few hours, or if what you wrote was really that confusing. First off, I agree with Lumi here: the slave and master thing should be changed. No tulpa should be equated to a slave like that. Primary and secondary works fine. Secondly, I like how flexible this method is with its wording and that it's actually consistent with its word usage in terms of no absolute statements. However: This is a form of frontloading and even though it's well-intentioned and that I mostly agree with it, there is still an issue with it. In an essay I recently wrote, I explained that absolute statements and frontloading, regardless if they're positive enough can still have negative consequences. If you tell a Tulpamancy system that switching is in fact this super easy thing that doesn't take long at all to do, thereby setting that expectation, what do you do if that Tulpamancy system despite being set up to believe it was easy still end up struggling for months or even years for any reason? They were lead on to think it wasn't hard, but there they are, struggling. This might lead them to think there's something wrong with them or that they might have been deceived, and it might discourage them. Belief and mindset are powerful tools in Tulpamancy, but at the same time, they themselves are no absolute factor. You can still believe you can do something and put in the 110% percent, but still fail. Thus, I think the best approach isn't to say switching is hard or that it's easy, but rather, emphasize that your mileage will vary. It may take time, it may not. That, and encouraging people to try many different methods to see what works for them instead of just trying the same method over and over again with little or no results. All in all, this method is... unique? Like, it's super goofy and certainly something my systemmates and I wouldn't do personally, but hey, maybe some Tulpamancy systems are looking for some silliness with their guides. I do also really like the idea of using word affirmations multiple times to enforce the idea of switching. Is it a guide I'd personally recommend? Not really sure because the circumstances you need to be in for this guide to be applicable are also a bit specific since you need at least two tulpas that can also possess, but not switch. -
Abvieon's Guide to Fast and Effective Tulpa Creation
Luigi.exe replied to Abvieon's question in Community Guides
[Arcanus] I agree with many of your replies to my own and my host's criticisms, therefore, I shall mostly be responding to replies that warrant further clarification or feedback. Indeed, in my host's guide, the definitions section is also at the end to not overwhelm readers. I believe my host made this statement with the mindset of a guide of this length will inevitably have readers who will skip to what they are seeking due to its immense length, and thus the experience of doing so should be convenient. It can be quite easy to forget what is stated at the very beginning of a guide with a length of 93 pages, quite certainly if one does read it in sessions instead of all at once (we did this very thing over the course of approximately a week). If I recall correctly, my host recently constructed an essay emphasizing the importance of not only including a subjectivity disclaimer, but being consistent with said disclaimer with the word usage and language for the rest of the piece. Said essay was meant to be posted here, given our return with the abolition of the GAT, but my host seems to have procrastinated on that. Hm. I suppose I should note that when we write our feedback, we simply write our thoughts as we go along, usually reading the resource and our thoughts multiple times over before considering it complete. Currently viewing the document outline and I cannot see any "sensory imagination" section. This may have been what my host had meant by there being no dedicated visualization section that is also simple to locate, especially with your statement of how visualization tips are scatted throughout the guide, giving a rather fragmented experience instead of a unified section. We are quite aware that you were the script author for the GearHeart tulpa creation hypnosis files, so we understand your readiness to defend hypnosis. However, I specifically highlighted my concern over your hypnosis section because we have read other resources for Plurality and hypnosis that gave much better warnings and precautions (and provided further reading and sources to their claims), and of which explained in much detail how and why these warnings exist. However, that is not me requesting that you spend pages explaining the risks, but I do suggest illustrating them more obviously and how powerful hypnosis can be rather than praising it as this absolute tool for tulpa creation. I second adding red flags, but I also suggest reading the resource I linked in the above paragraph for ideas on what else to include for precautions and how to avoid negative experiences. This is understandable, given the lack of separate parallel processing guides. You do mention this later in the reply, but I also agree that there should be bookmark links that lead back to previous sections that can inform the reader about a concept or term that has previously been explained and I do believe this would be the best of both worlds if they are the kind to skip throughout the guide. Agreed in the sense that one method could be written in many ways to reach many other people, but I believe my host had meant specific methods in this guide are present in others along with those guides having more information or detail about said method. However, I do not personally see this as a negative, as this can be a trade-off with lengthy guides that focus on no particular skill. This is a major reason as to why my host's guide has exceeded 74,000 words, as they are set on filling that guide with as much detail as possible, putting in the effort and time to ensure that the guide does not fall into the trap of being extensive, yet lacking depth. For a reader who simply desires an all-in-one guide and does not mind the lack of enriching detail, general guides such as yours are desirable, as ones like my host's may be too daunting for them. If they wish for extensive detail on a singular skill, they can seek specialized guides for that very purpose. Oftentimes, I wonder if my host is overestimating the community's drive to absorb knowledge about Tulpamancy, and that rather, they are content with guides like yours, Abvieon. Unlike the last system who requested our thoughts, we appreciate that you took these into consideration and are going to implement suggestions you feel as though are logical to add. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
I shudder to think how many views Kopase's videos have gotten since I last checked a few years ago, knowing what he openly advocates for on his channel. And honestly? I'm pretty sure the reason why it's so "very widely acclaimed" is because his guides are the only video guides, his charisma in his videos, and he basically set up a monopoly on it because no-one else has had the drive to make video guides (apart from like, Longbow, which the GAT shot down pretty hard before it was dissolved) when it's been highly requested by the community for years. Like, let's face it, practically 99% of guides are in text and regrettably, there are people who can't absorb information from text guides very well, but they can with videos. Kopase simply fills that niche. As for the "defendable reason," is a creator being nearly every form of -phobic, a white supremacist, and is also an abuser not a defendable reason? Because like, the only people I can imagine defending that are the people on his server who blindly follow him. I.e. people who wouldn't listen to reason. However, I do understand why Tulpa.info doesn't want to have to explain that to every person who asks about it despite Kopase's bigotry and his unwillingness to change being common knowledge, at least in the circles I reside in. I second this. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
Yeah, I don't see why the staff can't just do this. I'd like to know if I was reading something written by a nazi or not. Jade was... the closest thing to a leader this community ever had. She provided both video and written resources on things like switching, and she even posted academic papers on Tulpamancy (although they are very flawed); I'd say Jade contributed far more than the person I'm talking about. That's the whole reason I'm bringing her up. If I said Kopase threatening to kick anyone who breathed in his direction as "wrong[ing]" me, he would've technically wronged pretty much every person who's set foot in his server that isn't a white supremacist and Kopase boot-licker. I've had far worse dealings with other people in this community than him when only speaking on personal experience, but I'm not one of the many people he's harmed, and I've seen the horrible things he's done to some of them. Why else do you think I know that he's an abuser? -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
Why do people seem to not understand that moving a guide to drafts is not hiding or removing it? I've said this multiple times now and it feels like I'm not being heard. And that Ranger specifically said that a guide can always be edited to where it can be moved out of drafts? Except... I honestly think the author of the guide I'm talking about would absolutely not give a rat's ass whether or not their guide is moved or not or any criticism that is directed at them. They haven't been here in a while. That is something the staff of Tulpa.info need to consider. It's a paradox of, "We allow this bigot's guide because it's a good guide that doesn't inherently hold this bigot's views," but at the same time, you're still letting known bigots and abusers on your site. It makes me think to Jade and the fact that her stuff was purged when she was outed for her extremely abusive and cult-like behavior, so why purge one abuser's resources despite them supposedly being well-made, but not another's? I remember the reason was to protect people from coming into contact with her, which was the same argument I was making with this person's guide. It just... seems hypocritical and inconsistent? I just didn't think about it until now. So what's more important? The intolerance of abusive people who do hold harmful views and act out on them? Or the information here? Like Yakumo said, old and harmful guides can be rewritten by other people not bigoted or harmful like the original creators. (But that brings in the question of if it's right to do so? Copyright? Public domain? How much would be changed? Do you have to credit the original author? Most guides don't mention anything about copyright except like... Methos's guide.) I have never heard it be referred to as that by anyone besides you, but you're not wrong that people will likely seek it out if they want it that badly. Again, this might be a case of .info's image because this bigot does have a reputation for their behavior that's become common knowledge in the community, especially larger ones like #RedditTulpas. It's not my place to decide, though. I know for a fact that there are resources designated as guides that are... pretty bad, not to mention other things on that site that are questionable at best. I haven't checked in a while, though, and for good reason. The author's charisma in the guide makes it seems like they're inviting you to a friendly and fun-loving community, and that's how I was tricked into joining it. Because from my memory, they actively encourage users to join those communities and the guide itself does not give 4chan vibes. As some people should know, how the author in question presents themself in their guide is completely different than how they present normally. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
Yet again, everyone seems to be missing the point: as Ranger said themself, moving a guide to drafts is not deleting it, nor is it permanently stuck there. They specifically asked if there are any guides that warrant being moved to drafts due to containing legitimately harmful advice or "this guide is inherently racist." I don't know where the hell Ranger is, but it would be wonderful if they could reply here to state this themself. Oh, wait, I can ping them here, so I'm going to do that because I believe their input is sorely needed. @Ranger Hm, sorry, but there's a difference between historic documents talking about the atrocities nazis committed and why they're an incredibly dark part of humanity's history and just flat-out leaving nazi propaganda around for people to read without the warning or context. And I never said anything about deleting "history" (a tulpa guide being compared to nazi history in terms of importance is SENDING me) or even the guide I'm talking about. Like, seriously, I haven't mentioned this guide by name and the person who made it, so what guide are you gonna look at? -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
You can't because of the format of the guide I'm talking about, that's the problem. I don't know, man, but I do think this place has a responsibility to at least try and keep innocent people out of the hands of actual goddamn abusers. I say this person falls under the definition of scumbag and abuser because their actions match the definition of the word, not because I'm somehow 'superior' or higher for not being like them. So if I'm reading this right, you're equating tulpas to fictional characters in terms of their ability to give consent... yikes, dude, and saying it's "completely over the top"? You do realize that sexual abuse of tulpas is a very real and prevalent thing in the community, right? Really bad idea to downplay it like that. There's a difference between "questionable advice" and "advice" that flat-out harms people like telling someone to stop taking their medication or when a guide author who isn't even a psychologist tries to armchair diagnose people or give them medical advice when they are not medical professionals, nor are their readers their patients. Can Ranger please reply to this? Like, I asked the original question a while ago and have gotten no consensus on it. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
You're not getting it. The person I'm talking about does more than have different opinions; they have done legitimately harmful things to multiple people because of their bigotry. And I never said anything about witch-hunting them. Why do you think I'm specifically asking Ranger who is reorganizing the guides if a truly legitimate scumbag who has harmed people in this community falls under the criteria for having their stuff be moved to drafts under "this guide is inherently racist" before even saying who they are? Actually, yes in fact, their resources do include links to their Discord server. Fell for that years ago and instantly regretted it, so yes, those resources put people in direct contact with them. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
There's a reason why I mentioned that I'm not sure if said bigot's bigotry and hatred seeped into their guide. Because in cases like J.K Rowling, her bigotry is evident in her writing while with something like Minecraft, Notch's bigotry didn't affect it like Rowling's did. Because like, the person I'm talking about was so vitriolic towards non-Tulpamancy systems that they had to be banned from r/Tulpas because of it, which I do have the screenshots for and other evidence of this person's actions. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
That reminds me, would a guide being created by a well-known bigot (like, actually massive scumbag that participates in reprehensible behavior) fall under the "this guide is inherently racist" reason? Because there is an approved guide that was made by legitimately one of the worse members of the community, but I don't know if the guide itself has any of their bigotry in it. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
What about the "should you have sex with your tulpa" answer? Tulpa doesn't mention anything about consent, just that it's "taboo" or would potentially "sour" the relationship? Or that method where he tells the tulpa to bite their host and draw blood? It's right here on page 151: It just... has sexual metaphors literally throughout the entire guide, which might I add that a lot of new Tulpamancers are minors and could come across this kind of stuff. I mean, either way, it's getting moved to drafts with Tulpa's "medical advice," which I completely skimmed over in favor of him flat-out telling people to stop taking their meds. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
May I suggest moving Tulpa's D.I.Y Guide to drafts? It has legitimately harmful advice in it, an example of this can be found on page 24: "All other drugs," can also mean medication, which if I recall in the thread, Sands even pointed this out as absolutely harmful advice. Yeah, here's exactly what they said about it: Which, as you can see, Tulpa never took this feedback and fixed that and as far as I know, they have no intentions of ever updating this guide again. Also, not to mention how legitimately creepy Tulpa is in their guide? Exercises like the kissing exercise, constantly making sexual metaphors (without ANY NSFW warning), and flat-out telling the tulpa to love their host. Here's an example on page 164: It's got a lot of toxic host-centrism on top of that. The only reason Tulpa's guide was even approved was because the GAT couldn't go through all of it due to its immense length, so they just automatically approved it, and you can see the issues with that. Like, here's Waffles saying just that in the thread for that guide: I think I've made my point on Tulpa's guide being harmful, not even mentioning the many other issues with it. -
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Luigi.exe replied to Breloomancer's topic in Guide UpVote Draft System Discussion
Dude, seriously, do you not know that they/them exists??? Get out of 2012 and into 2021 where they/them are the appropriate pronouns towards someone you don't know the gender of, thanks. Like, I am glad people like you weren't the last members of the GAT before it was dissolved. Also, weren't you the one who brought politics into this? Ah, yes, in the previous page, you went: Nobody brought politics into this until you did.