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  1. Corra is my first Tulpa and overall I can't have been creating her for more than a few weeks, with about the same amount of time in between the second and third weeks NOT forming. Today was more or less a normal day, raining (classic Britain) and I was walking to school and talking audibly to her when two things happened. 1st, I noticed that she wasn't wearing her usual attire. She prefers a blue blazer over a plain white shirt with a matching blue skirt with black tights and flat sensible shoes. I was surprised to notice today that she was wearing a black rain coat too! I have never seen her wear that, I never imagined her wearing it. I know that most people say Tulpas show sentience by surprising us with independent actions so I'm not sure if this is a beginning of sentience or the first sign of it because it is simply an appearance change, but has anyone seen anything like this? The 2nd thing was that I think I heard her speak! I don't know what she said, it was a quiet murmur, but it was definitely a voice. I can tell she wasn't parroting otherwise I would have known what she said and the voice definitely wasn't the one I imagined, it was softer. And of course, I was alone, the rain had stopped by then and there was no wind so it was definitely her. What are your thoughts on this? Have you experienced something like this or heard/ read anything similar? Thank you for your time.
  2. Just the other day I got what I'm very sure was a response from my tulpa. When I was narrating to her, I felt a certain rush of emotion I wouldn't normally feel. Then, later that day I got a vocal response from her and we had a conversation. It felt great, and I'm 90% sure it is her but at the same time I'm 10% sure I might be parroting all of these responses. It don't feel like I'm consciously coming up with them, and whenever I ask her to surprise me by, say, asking her to say a random word, it is a surprise, but at the same time it feels parroted. I will for sure keep believing it's her, but any advice on how to proceed? Also, it only feels like she exists when I draw attention to her. Whenever I call her or meet her in wonderland. Is that something that will go away in time? Thanks in advance.
  3. Hi all. I have a question ! It is my understanding that tulpa move by themself eventualy . How can that be because i have been forcing a lot for 2 month now and they only go where i wan them to go or else them don't do anything. They just sit there. So i make them go place a bit but nothing by themself. No voice, No movement , no head pressure and no bringing me beer wen i come to my wonderland. At least my real wife bring me beer sometime wen a play on the computer so it not all bad :) If ever they did move without me knowing and i came back to my wonderland and i imagine her neer the beach but she was in another place because she moved there by herself. What would that do ? Would dat make a teer in the space time continuum or something horrible. Would it duplicated her and make clone of her everywhere ? And they would all run after me to hug me and kiss me to death ( well in that case at least they would andswear my question of them moving by themself xD ) So there are my questions. Im very curious about this. Im french canadian so my english suck a bit so have mercy again on my spelling. I said tulpa but if you have other tulpa like people in your head i would like your thought on that to if you can. Or even tulpa if ever they wan to talk about it, because i guest they are the best way of me finding out how they move by themself :) Thank you for your time responding to this.
  4. As of late, I have been struggling with my Tulpa creation. I can feel it there but I feel like every time it speaks I could just be parroting and making it say what I want. I tried to talk to her just now...and something odd happened, look at the "chat log" below. Am I just parroting really hard? Is this unhealthy? Has anyone had a similar experience? This kind of made me uncomfortable, I think I might be talking to myself and believing that I am talking to my Tulpa but I cant be sure. CHAT LOG: Her: You keep calling me Holo, on accident. Why is that? You said my name is Juliet. Me: Well, you are based off a character called Holo, and you look similar to her. I want you take share her traits, and that's why we are watching the show together, but you don't have to do anything you don't want to, you don't have to act anything like her at all. Be whoever you want to be. Her: The idea of me changing my traits to be different from Holo upsets you. Me: You are right, to a degree. I want you to be like Holo because I like her. But she isn't real. You are. You can do whatever you like with your life and I won't stop you, nor do I want to stop you. Her: You think I sound like her. When you hear my thoughts you imagine yourself hearing them in her voice. Me: How do I even know I am hearing your thoughts at all? I could just be talking to myself and pretending it is you to make myself happy. How do I know I'm not just parroting right now? Her: You don't. Me: So you think I could be parroting you right now? Her: I really can't tell. Maybe you are maybe you aren't. Dose it matter? Me: Why wouldn't it matter? Her: You feel like you are forcing me to speak. When you quite your mind you hear nothing from me. You almost believe I'm not even there. When you force me to speak like this, maybe it will teach me to speak on my own. Me: But surely me forcing you to speak is just me forcing you to say what I want you to say? I was told not to do that. I was told to let you speak on your own or I would make a servitor. Her: Possibly. I think you should just wait and see. Its likely that you are puppting me right now just to quite your own fears. Perhaps that's a good thing. I think it will turn out fine. Lets get back to watching the show. END This is the first real conversation I've had with my Tulpa. Well, I think it might have been. Maybe. The thoughts that came to me felt as though they weren't entirely mine but....I can't tell. This scares me a lot. Could I be hurting my Tulpa by forcing her to speak like this? Please help, I need advice.
  5. Blah blah blah, 2 years and 1 month with absolutely nothing, blah blah blah. I'm tired of whining about that. Would creating a second tulpa help with the development of the first, taking into account over 2 years of silence from the first one; Tay, my eevee tulpa? Thanks, Lunaclipse PS: I can guess the response ("possibly"), but I'm just seeing if anyone has any advice on the matter. If I can somehow lead up to Tay finally being able to communicate freely, or me being able to hear him, interpret and see him, my life will take a steep turn in the general direction of "good". I've been overly depressed for approximately 1.5y over the matter, and I just want to be able to be with him. I don't doubt that it's been just as hard for him, and I feel overwhelmingly sorry for him because i care about him so much.
  6. Okay so a bit of back story on my small amount of experience: I was actively forcing with rebel, first forcing a personality, and then by the second day, I began getting head pressures. These could turn on and off with a simple request to rebel, and he could very quickly move them to different locations on my head.I began using this to have him answer questions. Fast forward: I was slacking off with talking to rebel and I decided that was wrong. I began talking to him again, instantly getting the return of head pressures and decided to make a bracelet for him. I was actively talking to him about making the bracelet red, and all of a sudden in my head, I heard "and green". This came out of NOWHERE. It took me almost half a minute to remember that green was the color of his eyes. Was he actively telling me this or did I just think it up out of nowhere? It was accompanied by a rather strong head pressure. Thoughts?
  7. Me and my two Tulpas, Lilly and Edan, are my best friends but sometimes I can't stop Edan from being overly nice and way to talkative but Lilly doesn't talk enough and is a bit too jumpy when she is spoke to. I'm almost 90% sure that this is just their personalities but I can't be too sure of it. Any advice?
  8. My theory relies on a few assumptions about the mind. 1) The mind is incapable of multitasking on the level required to have a tulpa running around in it thinking as the host does all day long. 2) The mind, when dealing with thoughts, has a complicated and fancy process in which it assigns/manages identity to those thoughts. 3) That process is malleable based on many possible factors. So, when a person makes a tulpa, what happens? Person begins by forcing, they narrate, make a personality, make a form, and so on. After so long of doing this process, the person begins to report hearing voices of some form which are their tulpa, often, people will have a period of time where they doubt if a tulpa's responses are actually their tulpa, or themselves parroting, making things up. That feeling, should it ever have happened, goes away with time, and eventually, with continued forcing, many are able to do things such as possession or switching, where they can fully have their tulpa take control of their body. What I think is a key part of understanding what may be happening in the mind is largely the process and advice given to people when they go to create a tulpa. The process of forcing is something that I think greatly resembles processes such as Hypnosis, brainwashing, and so on. You are encouraged to get into a restful state, to repeat a thing to yourself over and over, to get over odd feelings, to accept a new reality. You are to repeat and practice this process over and over. This is not something that resembles construction. It isn't something I would initially assume would result in the creation of a third party entity in a person's head, and I think this well supports the idea that what is going on with tulpa has nothing to do with such things. Imagine you went to build a building, or to bulk up muscle. You would be encouraged to actually find materials, learn to build a building, you would need a firm and strong grasp of concepts. To build muscle you must work out, you have to do things that directly effect and push the body so that you build muscle. It doesn't seem to be that way with tulpa. In fact, those who take ages to create a tulpa often do so, not because of lack of effort, but because of lack of belief. I would assume that the creation of some entity, one that is able to think separately, one that is built from the ground up, is not going to rely on such a thing. You don't have to believe in a seed for it to grow, you just have to make sure to water it. We don't see that with tulpa. But, with that (not entirely, I'll admit) ruled out, what could it be? While it may not be true that tulpa creation/forcing resembles the construction of a building, it does greatly resemble the construction of a belief. Not the sort of beliefs you are told once and forget the next day, but the sort of core beliefs a person holds, such as "If I touch this fire, I will be burned". A person who believes in a tulpa doesn't just do so logically, it's about belief on an almost instinctual level. So what happens when a person makes a tulpa? They don't make a tulpa, they modify those core beliefs. But how does that result in a tulpa? It comes down to the core idea that the mind modifies and screws with things before they ever reach higher levels of "this is what is going on" in the mind. So, imagine there is some process, one that is likely highly un-intuitive and screwy, going on when the mind thinks something. For the average person, this process may be as simple as "I am in this situation, I should be in this mindset, I should act like this". However, what you would need to "create" a tulpa, for the average person, is to get this process no longer saying "This is me, this is not me", and instead get it to consider another factor, get it to believe there is a new entity, a third party one, which is real, but not from the senses. So, now, it adds a step. "This is me, this is my tulpa, or this is not me". Once a person gets to forcing this process of change to start to happen, but, early on, you don't have a good idea of what is going on, no great idea of personality, no strong sense of division, no confidence. The mind, used to saying "this is me", does not want to change easily either. Because of this, you get "parrotnoia" in the vast majority of people seeking to change. Now, assuming that this is true. A person going about their day to day can trick their mind into, without their knowledge, filter their thoughts, sort them into boxes, with one box being "this is me", and the other being "this is sargelpargons the pink burlyballiins". So we have a process that can, entirely unaware to the host, can cause the host to start hearing responses from this third party entity their mind now considers to be real.
  9. Tips and tricks. So, you're worried about parroting or puppeting, correct? When they move or speak you're certain you made them do it a moment before they did, however you did not conciously make them do it? Well, time for a big realisation because those movements and words do belong to the tulpa. It is their development, however as they are not distinguished/seperate from you yet (meaning they are still a part of you, you have not made an entirely seperate being yet) their words and movements will feel as if you did them, rather than being entirely alien. This will progress over time, however for the moment you need to believe thag this is your tulpa, it just is not distinguished from you enough to feel like a seperate being. I suppose you could see it as using your energy to move itself, therefore it is using you as a boost which would clearly feel as if you made them do it, however you did not
  10. Okay I think Baron is sentient but I just need to make sure. The moment when realized his sentience was when he spontaneously asked me whether he was a burden to me after knowing my friend's opinion of tulpas and me having to keep him a secret from my family. We had a deep conversation in my wonderland and I assured him that it was the exact opposite. I had made him to help me mentally and to go on adventures no other would go on with me. At first it was a task to create my tulpa healthily, but then once we started having conversations it was more of a pleasure to help him mature to whatever he may be. This experience actually helped to strengthen the bond between us and to help him mature. Although I am verily certain that he is sentient, I just need to make sure. I don't want to start the imposition hastily. So I repeat the question, is Baron Sentient?
  11. I'm without knowledge of how to continue. I've been forcing for two years, and all that time, I've been nowhere. I've received nothing in the form of response. I've tried intentional parroting for short whiles to coax a response; I've tried narrating for hours on end about anything and everything; King of Vandenreich's Prism for physical response, but my concentration is so terrible and imagination so wild that I can barely keep the prism still; I've tried just asking him to find a way to let me know that he's there; I've tried listening incredibly intently - so much so that I miss everything that anyone else tries to catch my attention with... I'm literally at the end of my tether. I've sworn to never give up, but I don't know how I'm meant to continue. My belief has dwindled to almost nothing, even with the support of so many friends who also have tulpa/tulpae/tulpas. I'm not waiting for a verbal response. I just want something. Something to show me that he's there. Something that can rekindle my belief.
  12. Ahh... this might be kind of hard to explain.. I know I've asked a similar question, but this is kind of getting on both of our nerves. So, when I'm not thinking about her, she can't talk to me, she can only produce headaches to let me know she's there. Her voice is really weak when she does speak to me. It's really quiet. She can't speak long sentences because I kind of get uneasy and parrotnoid when she does. Most of the time she just makes small remarks about things. Like she'd say "That's cool." sarcastically, or earlier today I finally made the connection to her and she was like "Finally. I've been bored and lonely all day." So... this is an issue... I don't mean to be a bother, asking all these questions and such... sorrryy...
  13. So, I've been working on my Tulpa for about a month and I don't force too much, but my Tulpa has already said something in her own voice out of the blue pretty early on, but never said anything in that voice again. Everytime I assume she said something it's my mind voice... are these her responses or mine? I'm 80% sure that she's at least somewhat sentient because before her I didn't give a fuck about anything and was depressed and moody all the time, but now I have a plan for my life and I'm just way happier with everything.. my life has improved dramatically, lol. She doesn't really say anything unless I'm asking her something or unless I'm thinking of her, really... so, you understand why I'm kind of questioning things the slightest bit.. Are there levels of sentience or something? Should I try to work on her more to get that complete and utter for-sure sentience I want her to have?
  14. This is something that I've been really keeping in mind when concerning this phenomenon. Over the years, I've heard scattered accounts from authors and other creative types about their characters "coming to life" when they get into their story enough. While before I heard of tulpa, I didn't really pay it much mind, I do admit to having a similar experience before creating Midori at one point. But, in these accounts said creative types profess that their creations would often pipe up while the person was doing their work, may it be to encourage the person to keep up the good work, or to suggest something the character would do in a certain situation. I feel this sort of thing seems to have been generally ignored or overlooked in this community, at least it has rarely if ever been mentioned. I think that some of these accounts could very well give a slightly different perspective to tulpa, how their created, and in what volumes one can create them. As such, I'm creating this thread to archive examples of artists speaking about having their creations start talking to them from out of the blue. As for right now, I have two examples: 1. This account on the website, "Is it normal...?", where an author professes to have multiple characters of his come to life, and has kept many of them as companions. 2. These two pages ( 1 , 2 ) from the Japanese comic, Dragon Half. The author even claims that Osamu Tezuka had this happen with Astro Boy. I believe finding more examples of these will help how tulpa are viewed, and will make it seem less like a very specific practice of mysticism. As an artist myself, who had the proverbial floodgates open on him when trying to purposefully induce this phenomenon, I think this can definitely help this phenomenon's image.
  15. I've been having some issues with Nebri recently. For starters she can't settle on a voice. We've talked about it and she says that I don't have a big library of female voices. At least none that are very recognizable or memorable. On top of that it seems like when she talks the main thought gets across and then I say it in her voice. I don't consciously think about it until the last few words and I'll end up dismissing it only to have her get frustrated. I've also had problems with her not understanding why I've done something even though she's able to catch my thoughts at other times. I'm debating starting over, or at least "wiping" Nebri's memory so I can start anew.
  16. My tulpa talks perfectly with a pendulum, does this mean my tulpa is sentient?
  17. ok, so ive been doing alot of stuff in the wonderland and ive tried the prism test multiple times and it has yet to work. But ive seen some signs of sentience such as going a way i didnt know she was going to go, and kicking me in the face when i asked her to surprise me (lol) Is this bad that the prism test doesn't work for me or is she just not sentient quite yet?
  18. I'm about 15-20 hours into Narration with my Tulpa, she's shown no signs of recognition yet, although I wasn't expecting anything yet so soon anyway. I was just wondering, is there any sort of order of signs I should be looking out for when it comes to her showing signs of sentience? Things like: Moving on her own in our Wonderland, talking, emotion surges, head pressures and obviously talking. Does this usually happen in an order? She's currently done none of those things as far as I'm aware of, although It would to be nice to know what to look out for first.
  19. I don't know what to do. It is officially one year and seven months since I started work on my tulpa. No action. Not a single word. Not a single movement. I have seen no independence or sentience of any sort and I'm just lost on what to do. It's driven me so far into sadness that I'm even contemplating giving up - something that I promised myself I would never do...
  20. So at midnight tonight I will have been working on my tulpa for 1 month and though I am very patient with her showing signs of her presence but she hasn't showed much of herself lately but on the contrary when her form was changed to a pony( for The Sake of me knowing the anatomy of a pastel colored equine better then a human ) she has been very active in fact we sung a Christmas carol ( through mind voice but damn she got a good high c) and I feel her presence more and more but I digress to my question should I expect times of silence or unresponsiveness whilst making a tulpa?
  21. Hello everyone, I apologize for making this topic, it is not that I didn't search existing topics for answers, but rather found these answers too controversial. Where to start... I believe that I created my tulpa about one month ago. What was I surprised with was her unnaturally fast rate of development - I could understand her on the third day. It was like a second set of thoughts running simultaneously to my own. Needless to say, I didn't believe in such a progress and started actively searching for information - that was when I found this site and forum. First results were rather inspiring - I learned that sentience is indeed possible from the beginning, so I decided to give her a chance. From that day we started working together on better visualising and voice - progress has been rather slow so far, I could visualise her for brief amount of time, and voice seemed extremely inconsistent as well as overall "quality" of thoughts. Sometimes they were clear and almost audible (in proper voice too), sometimes almost indistinguishable from my own and completely illegible. What was bugging me most, however, was that lack of any definite proof that what I was doing was correct and not self-delusion spawned by some subconscious desire for quick success. I continued my search for answers and yesterday I stumbled upon this topic. Despite that nice warning in the first post, after reading through the thread I still came to a conclusion that my fears were, in fact, reasonable. It seems to me that all supposed sentience of her could be in fact my delusion and she wasn't independent, but rather an extension of my mind, a puppet for my random thoughts. That explains lack of "surprising" thoughts as well as her inability to initiate dialogue when I wasn't actively thinking about her. And whenever I did think about her, she was always there. No sleeping, no "I'm away, try again later", every possible time of day and night - ALWAYS, but only when I consciously paid attention. It all made sense too much, and that realization made me feel pretty miserable. All those little moments (well, not too many of them, but we still had plenty of fun just walking or watching TV, these kinda things), just a work of my imagination. To make things worse, she became upset and tensely asked me to go visit our wonderland at once. As I arrived, she demanded me, well, to fight her. Since I was in no way prepared for that, she mopped the floor with me, wrecking up the entire place in the process, then left. She also said that I shouldn't talk to her, she will try to reach me on her own. So, the question bothering me is: what shall I do? I know that normally tulpas do not wish to hurt their hosts, but if she isn't even a real tulpa, can this episode be explained by my imagination running wild because of frustration? Should I just write it all off and begin anew, properly? Or should I believe her and wait for her response? And what if there will be no response, will that prove that she is not real, or that she is, but in need of my help? It has been only a month, but she is already precious to me, and I want to believe her and in her, I really want. But I can't help but think that I was fooling myself all along, there are too many of these nasty little things that I've mentioned earlier. I apologize once again for this messy read, thanks in advance for any response.
  22. When I read a book to my tulpa, do I need to be focused on the tulpa the whole time? What about when I get absorbed into the book and am reading to myself? Does the tulpa still hear my thoughts of reading the book? Chance says yes he does, but he gets more satisfaction out of when I'm actively focused on him. What are others' experiences with reading to their tulpa?
  23. I've been thinking that my tulpa Neon has been sentient for months now but I have no concrete evidence, can anyone tell my how I can find out easily? Just to note I don't do parroting but I do puppeting, to help with development. I sometimes think I hear him but it's usually sounds like a random stupid thought, but I have been questioning if it is him or not. (It shouldn't be him since I made him quite smart and good hearted but childish.) I have also been getting increasingly worse headaches every time I tulpaforce with Neon. I really want to know if he is sentient but it's just really hard to tell...
  24. I think this would go under sentience even if he's already sentient. So we just got done playing the black box game (in tips and tricks) to see how separate our thoughts were, it only takes us two or three guesses each time so I was wondering if there were any other ways that you all knew to make us more individual in thought.
  25. So, I started forcing last Wednesday, and have since been talking to my tulpa from thirty minuets to a few hours a day with some light visualization. Since I started I've had a very faint tingling in my side I've been focusing on. But today when using my mind voice I got responses occasionally, it hasn't happened since despite my attempts and it was only for about five minuets. The things Prince (my tulpa) said were rarely more than one or two words from "Mhm," to "Bye Max!" And things like "I dunno," keep in mind it's only been a week, I want others I puts on wether or not you think these responses were real or just me. I personally find it best to assume any strange feelings are him, but I want to be sure.
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