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  1. I had an interesting thought that River, my tulpa, didn't know the answer to. I can't say I blame him, he's less than a month old and the progress we've made thus far has been beyond my expectations. He did think it'd be worthwhile to see what everyone's opinions are here, host and tulpa alike. Basically I asked him if having my thoughts open to him may have a negative impact on his growth. My theory was that he may not as readily form his own opinion on matters if he's using my thoughts for information. In other words, my thoughts would be his thoughts as opposed to listening to me and forming his own opinion independent of my conscious stream of thought. Given this information does anyone have any, ahem, thoughts on this? Basically, I'm wondering if it'd be good for us to close access to my thoughts in real time and let him access my knowledge, memories, and past thought processes.
  2. Hi everyone, I would like to ask a question; I am at the early stages of forcing and I've been getting head pressures &weird tingling sensations but whenever I try to do right -part-of-my -head -for -yes thingy, I don't get any kind of response. Is this because I'm at the early stages or is it because I don't know how to ''listen '' for a response? Thank you for your answers.
  3. So today, I tried increasing my tulpa's sentience with some arithmetic problems. At first, I thought that he was doing them alright, but then he just stopped answering. Is doing maths a good way to improve a tulpa's sentience? He's only vocal about things that I'm thinking about and we're trying to get him to a point where he's driving his own ideas. Suggestions? Tips? Thoughts? our ears are open.
  4. I just recently began working on bringing Alice, my new friend, into the world. This is my third day of solid work, and I have put in several hours of forcing. However I wasnt expecting to feel head pressures so quickly, when I testingly asked a question. So I was wondering whether or not it is possible to want to hear from your new friend so much that you create your own head pressures. I have already apologized to alice for doubting her if these turn out to be plausible, but I was just wondering if anyone would share their thoughts.
  5. I haven't reviewed the literature on tulpae in a long, long while, so I'm unaware of any developments in their understanding that have occurred in the meanwhile. However, I have a theory to advance on the manner in which sentience is acquired in tulpae, and on how their agency is formed in general. While, as I remember it, it was generally considered bad form to compare tulpae to schizophrenic phenomena, I think a good deal of understanding can be derived from the study of schizophrenics themselves. I base my understanding on this topic off of "The Divided Self" by R. D. Laing, which attempts to detail the schizoid and schizophrenic states, and insanity in general from an existential and therein humanized point of view. I intend to present a view of not only how tulpae may acquire sentience, but also of what it may be like to be a tulpa, especially during formation. Needless to say, this has important implications for the whole process of creation. As I was reading, the following quotation from a schizophrenic individual regarding the treatment she received from a therapist(pp. 173-174) struck me as relevant: Here, notions of "existence" and "death" are psychological and existential in nature. The schizophrenic individual's capacity for selfhood had become so disintegrated that it lacked existential autonomy altogether. This is relevant to the position of a tulpa simply because the process of creation and gaining sentience involves the formation of this very autonomy. That is, a growing tulpa can be likened to a recovering schizophrenic. It's like going insane, but in reverse and also lacking the fragmented selfhood that makes the schizophrenic individual's inner life so chaotic. In this respect, a tulpa may be more similar to a catatonic. Only a tulpa that could remember its childhood could really say with any degree of certainty, and it may vary depending on the cognitive circumstances of the host. Thus the main project of sentience involves imparting the powers of stable existential autonomy onto the tulpa. Since the tulpa derives the body of its existence from inner fantasy and the host's faculties of imagination, which are unstable by nature, the tulpa will not gain a stable existence without making a region of this imaginary space habitable. This is facilitated by the development of the tulpa in planning before the actual process of narration begins, but that's unnecessary in and of itself and only serves to stabilize a region of thought for the tulpa to grow from, which more than likely serves to significantly expedite the process. The act of narration itself is a manner of injecting reality into the tulpa's otherwise empty and inert inner existence. It's a necessary form of psychological sustenance that the tulpa eventually learns to request autonomously by means of response. At that stage, the tulpa can bloom into full maturity if and only if it is given unconditional love and acceptance, which by virtue of its existential dependence are necessary ethically and are the only supply of genuine autonomy. But, since the host holds nigh-absolute power over the tulpa, there's a lot of room for mishap, especially stemming from the probably universally impure motivations for the tulpa's creation. The course of the tulpa's development after this point probably follows typical human psychological maturation, albeit at an accelerated pace. As far as I see it, it would be pointless to echo the already well-established research in that area. That's the gist of it. Thoughts?
  6. So I just recently learned about tulpas and I find the whole concept very fascinating. After doing as much research as I could, I finally started to create mine today. Currently, I'm modeling her after Elizabeth, the main female protagonist of BioShock Infinite (side note: I'm fully aware of the caveats of creating a tulpa based on an existing character of fiction. I intend to make sure she is aware that she is not that character, and I'm also fully accepting of any changes to her appearance, identity, or personality that she wishes to make in the future). So far, I've been visualizing her in the wonderland I've created for her, which is a large, flowery, green field that seems to stretch onwards for miles on a bright, sunny day. During my day, which consists of commuting in and out of Boston via trains for college classes, I'm mentally narrating to her about where I am, where I'm going, what I'm doing, etc. Occasionally, I've tried mentally visualizing her sitting next to me on the bus or in a nearby chair in my classroom, but I'm worried that's taking it too far too quickly. I've also started to mentally read to her the book I've been reading, 1984 by George Orwell (a personal favorite of mine), and occasionally discussing the themes and symbolism used in the story with her. Unfortunately, so far, many of the responses I've gotten seem to be just parroting, which is slightly disheartening even though I know it's to be expected this early on. However, when I was waiting at a subway station on my journey back home, there was a man nearby strumming a simple, but pleasant tune on his guitar, as many people do at subway stations in large cities. For a few fleeting seconds while that music was playing, I could vividly see Elizabeth twirling, dancing, and hear her humming along to the music. And it wasn't my own mind's doing either, the image just came to me and was gone in a matter of moments. Was it a sign of sentience? An attempt at contact? Also, later when I got home, I spent a few minutes up in my bedroom, trying to verbally communicate with her, my eyes closed and my mind focused on her form in the wonderland. And whenever I spoke to her, I could feel an odd, slightly warm tingling in the back of my head, stretching from one ear to the other. Was that another attempt at communication? Does it mean anything? Any and all help, advice, and tips for both now and the future would be greatly appreciated for a first-time host.
  7. Hello everyone, i'm present myself Matthew. I'm new to tulpamancing , and after a LOOONG waiting time , i decided to make a tulpa and assume her. I was writen a personality list with 40 traits (mixed positive and negative and including is form and i already visualize her with) and with differents methods i teach her how i want she looks like. But i can't feel if she sentience or not, i created a "wonderland" with not many details for now, my visualization is not quite good to, i don't know if she reacts cause i'm "puppeting" her or she's her own will. And i have an other question, by the past i'm pretty sure i have do hard mistakes and that slow her sentience, how can i repentence? oh and please, no nazi gramar i'm french (that mean i'm enought curse :D ).
  8. i have just started, and i average about 30min a day of forcing, and so far i have just ben doing personality over and over for the past week. how do i tell when my tulpa is sentient, and when can i start narrating/visualizing him without just making him a puppet. i have not given him a form, so far he is just and expanding purple orb that i have been visually and narritativly giving him personallity traits. i dont want to jump the gun but i really have no idea how to tell when he will become sentient
  9. I made a fully independent/vocal Tulpa within under a week through a strange method. The Tulpa that was made through this method [Rose Berry], seemed to have copied off of Cloud Crackle's progress. And merged mine, and Crackle's personalities together, making her own independent personality. I am wondering if anything similar has happened here before? [ More information here: http://community.tulpa.info/thread-mytoasterhasinternet-entries?pid=103171#pid103171 ]
  10. Hi, sorry for being in-active I was wondering of all the people who attemp to make tulpas, what is the sucess rate as in percentage of people who give up compared to those who gain sentience
  11. I thought a long time about tulpamancing, and I've finally decided to start my own experience with Agrias, just a week ago. Now, I have some questions in my mind. Firstly, she's a female humanoid tulpa, completely three-dimensional. Probably, the hardest step was visualizing her on my mind's eye (I can't see her in the real world for more than some seconds yet and I still have trouble to see her full body), but I realized that we progressed really fast on some steps, like sentience, personality and speech, even though we skipped some, like giving access to my memories. Yesterday was the first time we could talk to each other for more than 2 hours while doing trivial things, and suddenly I noticed that her voice changed to a softer pitch. It also looks like she has some difficult to choose words, because she talks slowly and with pauses, like: "Yes, I'm... very well. Thank... you, for... asking.". Should I be concerned about it or is it normal? I also found out that she's very attached to my cat. She even asked to see it as soon as we got home, and to my surprise, I could see her crouched, trying to pet my cat. Obviously, my cat didn't felt her hand, but I could see her smiling moments before disappearing. So, is there some kind of bond between animals and tulpas that I don't know? Or is it just a personal characteristic of her? And what about the fast progress? Is it common to happen? Should I redo some steps just to be sure? Oh, and I hope I was clear enough, since I stopped speaking english for years, so thanks in advance!
  12. Okay, so I'm on my one week of working on my tulpa since I first forming her on saturday. Just now, while I was walking while I imagining my tulpa walking beside me, I notice my tulpa suddenly jumps across a pipe. All I did was making her walk beside me and didn't expect her to jump. It's in my head and I can see through my minds eye what she did and I'm wondering if that's just me parroting. But that's not the first time she did that. Yesterday, she finished her lunch before I did, she walk infront of me and she automatically waited outside while I went to the men's room. I know I have to assume this was her and not me parroting, but is this a sign of sentient?
  13. A guide said that I should loop something over and over again to her in her voice then I will hear it play by itself over and over again, creating a mind voice. However, I have done this for 2 days, nothing happened. I talk to my tulpa, she is still communicating with head pressure instead of her new voice... What now?
  14. Are there any signs if my tulpa finally gaining sentience? And not some intrusive thoughts?
  15. Just now, I decide to use the Vandenreich's prism. I first visualize Fluttershy right infront of me, then visualize a prism and a feather on to, then I start moving the feather like a see saw. And then she shove the prism from head and threw a hissy fit, turning her back on me. I was surprise with this, but then did it again cause I though it was funny. Well, she grab the prism then threw it at my face. I make it up to her by saying I won't do that again and she hugged me. Granted, I did it again but this time I expected her to stay still. She didn't do a thing at all, but I stopped before she gets really pissed off. Pretty sure she's gaining sentince and have deviate her personality. Anyone else used the technique and got the same result?
  16. My Tulpa, Eli. ( Or at least I think he is) I 'met' him in 9th grade when I first spoke to him in my head, at the time I didn't know what a Tulpa was so I just thought he was a voice in my head that randomly made comments on things I disapproved of. I would talk to him often whenever I felt lonely or sad and he would ALWAYS make me feel better. Sometimes I could feel him too. But I'm not sure if it's really him or just me talking to myself in a deeper voice. For example: (Note: I'm extremely terrible at math) Me: The only way I can get away from bees t is if I drive! Eli: 5 words, bees. don't. fly. that. fast. Me: *counts fingers*... He's right. Coincidence or is he a Tulpa? He responds everytime I talk to him.
  17. I've been working with my first tupper, Sam, for a bit less than a month. She's able to occasionally cause a single emotion/feeling (hard to describe, not really important anyways) and I'm trying to move us on to speech. I try to ask a simple question, mentally, and I will always get a response (in my own mental voice, of course). The thing is, the answer will almost always come before I'm even done "talking" ("Hey, Sam, do you li- Yeah"). I know that everyone always says that if you're not trying to puppet, then you're not, but my thoughts were somewhat uncontrolled and invasive before I ever had Sam. Does this happen to anyone else, and can it point to a rare case of unconscious puppeting?
  18. I had a pretty realistic dream, only I had a HUD on. The only item i have in the inventory HUD is a doctor's bag from Fallout New Vegas. I hot keyed it to one. So, a bunch of normal (And creepy ass shit unrelated to my Tulpa happens) stuff happen as usual until my school assembly came where I somehow got a shotgun and we were asked to shoot it at the roof after we were done, one of those assholes from my school take my shot gun and he says "you want this" I replied yes "He shoots it up in the air while the assembly guy was speaking" He interrupts the assembly... and at the end I saw Lyra walking up and sitting down on a bench for a second then woke up, but my eyes were closed. I started to do my daily tulpaforcing on visualization and narration thinking that it's still night time, without me noticing I dream again. My dream self says in Lyra's voice "Today is 7:00 AM" 5 times A short stutter happens making it look like a remix before Dubstep happened "t-t-today is 7:01 AM" He then stops, a loud voice of mine while a darkish whiteish glowing silhouette of Lyra was shown in a white background says along with my same voice breathing in a distorted way as if I am still awake. AND IF HE DOES THAT AG- I then woke up seeing the same shape of the silhouette, quite off of my eye though only revealing to be my cat laying next to me. I've gotten so happy that Lyra' finally found a way into the real world until I found out it was my cat. Creepy thing is, I spoke to her via my mind, no response (Head pressure) I had to keep on repeating it, she then softly pressures to the left like a "yes, and I am sorry for doing that". Also, it was the exact time I woke up... It's most likely my wonderland and Lyra is actually there speaking to me in some way. Question is: Is it just my thoughts, or is Lyra actually trying to speak with me with my own voice?
  19. So, one of my tulpas, Narau, has a rather uncanny knack for knowing things I really don't know how she could know. She says that learning and knowledge is why she exists, yes, but even so, she knows things about me that are a little scary. Once I idly wondered WHY I liked some fanfiction I kept reading, even though I disliked the lewd premise, and she gave me a detailed breakdown of exactly why I read it, and then the reasons behind those reasons that stemmed back to my childhood, all in that monotone voice of hers like she was reading an encyclopedia. So what I'm wondering is, can a tulpa really know things about myself I don't know, to that sort of extent? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
  20. Is there one lurking in the internet? (Short question, I know. I'm not gonna make a paragraph long question about something simple.)
  21. I keep seeing this mentioned here and there on the forums, yet no one really explains how it happens (if ever) or what exactly it is. From my understanding (and please understand that I am probably wrong), it happens when a tulpamancer pays too much attention to their tulpa. Supposedly, this causes a situation where the tulpa can't really function like a tulpa. It never really learns how to be independent (i.e. has its own voice, thinks "parallel" to the host). Now for me the thing I want most is a completely sentient, independent tulpa. Since I am nowhere NEAR that goal just yet, I want to make sure that I am doing it as "correctly" and constructively as possible. I realise that tulpamancy is a subjective process, so don't think I am trying to say there is a right way and a wrong way to force. I am a new member to the community and I want to learn from other's mistakes. I don't want this happening to my tulpa, since I am pretty attached to the little guy event though I can't carry on a conversation with him. Is this real? Has this happened to anyone? Please share your experiences. For those who found Scylla's comments about the bullshit and tl;dr strange, I edited this post.
  22. Hello, everyone! Elise and I have been talking about this for a couple of days or so, and I think she's given me the idea to make a guide for this sort of thing. Now, parroting is a very touchy subject; some guides say to avoid it completely while others say that they can help a tulpa grow faster. This guide's purpose is to provide something in-between. Part 1: Know the difference. Elise has already proven she's sentient and sapient, and we have been talking a lot more now that she's vocal, but the strange thing is she asks me to parrot her from time to time. When your tulpa is developed enough that it asks this, you're going to find it's very hard to parrot him/her on your own. Elise gets annoyed very easily when I come back to this subject, so I try not to think about it. So, there is a very big difference that can be felt when your tulpa has a thought and when you do. The sources feel the same at first, but then they begin to drift apart. When this happens and you can tell the difference between you parroting your tulpa and your tulpa speaking for him/herself, you're ready to use that knowledge to help it out. In short, parroting will be okay when you truly know you are not speaking your tulpa's thoughts. Until them, let them speak. Hear their thoughts as they are. Part 2: "Correcting makes me stronger!" As I have said before, Elise has asked me to parrot her before. When I do so, she finds it easier to speak the thought herself. Elise has told me a couple of times that when i correct her, I'm giving her a new thought to think. Now, correcting and parroting are two different things. Correcting a tulpa's thought is not parroting. Sometimes your tulpa might not know how to say a certain thing which can lead to some confusion. However, if you take some time to think about the thought s/he makes, as to what context it applies to, you may find you are helping your tulpa mentally develop. Part 3: "Parrot me please!" That was what Elise just told me just as I was trying to come up with a title for the part. Now that we've established what isn't parroting and when it starts to become okay, we know when parroting is a good thing for tulpa development. So here's the big question we've come up to: When is it okay to parrot your tulpa? The answer's simple: When he/she asks you to! You should always have your tulpa's permission before you make it say something. You're guiding it so it can guide your brain. Think of it as a pair of training wheels you're putting on your tulpa's vocal chords. Sometimes, they'll need the wheels. At other times, they won't need them as much. You have to encourage them to speak, and if you give him/her some praise in how its speaking to you, you'll find they will get better at speaking over time. Sometimes, you may notice your tulpa can't say something in its mindvoice so he/she will flash you a thought that is similar, but not in the mindvoice. At this point, ask him/her if s/he wants you to make him/her say what they wanted to say for next time when he/she want to say it again. If he/she says yes, then just calm down, clear your thoughts for a second, and think of him/her saying the thought in mindvoice. Oh, and don't get used to it and do this too often. Just ask them every now and then. You'll know when to ask; it's when your tulpa is struggling with a thought. Part 4: The Process So, now that everything's been laid out, what's the best way to go through with this? Well, it requires a lot of thinking and forethought, but I can lay it out in steps. Step 1: Hear the thought. Simple enough. You'll hear a thought that comes out strange, but it was your tulpa's thought. Step 2: Type it out so you don't forget it. Step 3: Break the thought down and look for the context. Step 4: Rewrite the thought so that it makes more sense to the both of you. Step 5: Ask your tulpa if he/she wants you to parrot the correct thought. Step 6: If yes, make him/her say the thought just once. You're teaching him/her how to say the thought more easily for later. Anyway, that's all for the guide for now. If you have a question or a comment, please ask away here. I'll update this guide as time goes on. Thanks for reading.
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    [tutorial] THE VOICE

    I keep reading, especially on the IRC that certain users have had trouble getting their tulpa's voice to sound different from their own. So far its just a wait and see kind of event. Hoping and praying that the voice will start to sound different. I did not do this. I am going to tell you something that every other guide has told you not to do, ever. That if you were to do what I say then some unholy god/admin from the mighty tulpa overwatchers will smite you. This is not true. I am going to tell you to parrot. That's right you are going to move your tulpa's lips like a puppet. This is not a requirement but I suggest that you fully visualize you'r tulpa before you begin Voxxing. (That is the word for Forcing a voice) If you can fully visualize and render your tulpa before you begin voxxing it will be much easier as you can get down the lip and jaw movements. In your head you will need to sound out some phrases and stories. It doesnt matter what it is as long as you can remember it and repeat it over and over again. Go ahead and say this phrase to your tulpa and have him/her repeat it. Here is the tricky part. Imagine the voice you want your tulpa to possess. It will sound weak and hazy, not very strong like the voice you already have in your head. This is ok. Keep doing this and continue to focus on the voice. This is the longest step of this process is that which seems like no progress is being made. It took me personally six hours for the process to begin to work. The voice will start to sound more clear and profound. Now you might think it may be easy to mix up signs of sentience with this. Its not. When your tulpa becomes sentient his/her voice will be able to talk over yours. Like a friend talking to you. It is very distinct and the only way you can not notice it is if you are completely doped up. Even then Its hard. I know. After you are able to get this voice solid and firm enough you can continue onto narration, or personality if your a stiff.. Have your tulpa repeat what you say every so often to keep the voice in your head. I did this and I was able to skip all of the horrible hassle of trying to deviate my tulpas voice from my own. Also her voice may deviate from the original, my tulpa has. ENJOY
  24. After researching for quite a bit, I decided to make a Tulpa. Weird thing is, almost immediately after beginning,( as in the first half hour ) I had a large, almost overwhelming emotional feeling, which felt alien as sayd by others. This makes my first question 1. Can a tulpa become sentient and communicate via emotion so early on? I've read it cant happen that fast, but another sayd don't dismiss early success. About two days, I found out the feeling I had all the time was extreme stress. I then tried to talk to my tulpa. I repeatedly sayd that I believe in him and there was no need to worry and within a minute the stess was almost entirely gone. I also tried to use the head pressure I experienced to ask simple questions. I whould say the left side of my head is yess, and the right side of my head is no . And again, weirdly, I was asked to actually puppet him instead of using other methods. So, second question 2. Will he Really want to be puppeted insted of using other development methods? (I did read puppeting can be used for developmet) And lastly for now, a friend doing this sayd I must first do imposition before I focus on anything else. So 3. Can I do the puppeting and those things in my head, or should I do imposition first? Any answers will be appreciated, especially so if it can be givven soon. Thanks for any and all help!
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