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I'm very new to tulpamancy, and I've only just started to make my first tulpa, but she seems very angry and violent already. I often receive waves of anger and irritation from her when I try and talk to her. since she is still new, and can't exactly respond, I can't really ask her what's wrong..

My tulpa she is a bodhisattva, she does not feel negative emotions, she is never angry, she is never sad. She feels compassion for my suffering, and the suffering of all people in the world. She forgives me every time I make a mistake, she wants me to be in the wonderland forever with her. She feels love and compassion much of the time, these two emotions of her are so strong that even I can feel it. Is it correct that my tulpa does not feel negative emotions? Why should I grant negative emotions, if I don't want my tulpa to suffer from having negative emotions?

[align=justify]Daily thread #19 We mentioned this in the MBTI personality thread, but I figure it'll get buried, and I think this topic is worth its own thread. We think MBTI is overrated and you can easily get a different result each time, so it's not the best measure of personality. What we personally prefer are the Enneagram personalities. There are 9 types instead of 16, so there's a lot less room to get a different result each time, and the different results are more unique from each other, with some similar groupings. It also explains how each personality might behave if it's positive, neutral, or negative. The nine personality types are [hidden] One - The Reformer: "Ones are conscientious and ethical, with a strong sense of right and wrong. They are teachers, crusaders, and advocates for change: always striving to improve things, but afraid of making a mistake. Well-organized, orderly, and fastidious, they try to maintain high standards, but can slip into being critical and perfectionistic. They typically have problems with resentment and impatience. At their Best: wise, discerning, realistic, and noble. Can be morally heroic." Two - The Helper: "Twos are empathetic, sincere, and warm-hearted. They are friendly, generous, and self-sacrificing, but can also be sentimental, flattering, and people-pleasing. They are well-meaning and driven to be close to others, but can slip into doing things for others in order to be needed. They typically have problems with possessiveness and with acknowledging their own needs. At their Best: unselfish and altruistic, they have unconditional love for others." Three - The Achiever: "Threes are self-assured, attractive, and charming. Ambitious, competent, and energetic, they can also be status-conscious and highly driven for advancement. They are diplomatic and poised, but can also be overly concerned with their image and what others think of them. They typically have problems with workaholism and competitiveness. At their Best: self-accepting, authentic, everything they seem to be—role models who inspire others." Four - The Individualist: "Fours are self-aware, sensitive, and reserved. They are emotionally honest, creative, and personal, but can also be moody and self-conscious. Withholding themselves from others due to feeling vulnerable and defective, they can also feel disdainful and exempt from ordinary ways of living. They typically have problems with melancholy, self-indulgence, and self-pity. At their Best: inspired and highly creative, they are able to renew themselves and transform their experiences." Five - The Investigator: "Fives are alert, insightful, and curious. They are able to concentrate and focus on developing complex ideas and skills. Independent, innovative, and inventive, they can also become preoccupied with their thoughts and imaginary constructs. They become detached, yet high-strung and intense. They typically have problems with eccentricity, nihilism, and isolation. At their Best: visionary pioneers, often ahead of their time, and able to see the world in an entirely new way." Six - The Loyalist: "The committed, security-oriented type. Sixes are reliable, hard-working, responsible, and trustworthy. Excellent "troubleshooters," they foresee problems and foster cooperation, but can also become defensive, evasive, and anxious—running on stress while complaining about it. They can be cautious and indecisive, but also reactive, defiant and rebellious. They typically have problems with self-doubt and suspicion. At their Best: internally stable and self-reliant, courageously championing themselves and others." Seven - The Enthusiast: "Sevens are extroverted, optimistic, versatile, and spontaneous. Playful, high-spirited, and practical, they can also misapply their many talents, becoming over-extended, scattered, and undisciplined. They constantly seek new and exciting experiences, but can become distracted and exhausted by staying on the go. They typically have problems with impatience and impulsiveness. At their Best: they focus their talents on worthwhile goals, becoming appreciative, joyous, and satisfied." Eight - The Challenger: "Eights are self-confident, strong, and assertive. Protective, resourceful, straight-talking, and decisive, but can also be ego-centric and domineering. Eights feel they must control their environment, especially people, sometimes becoming confrontational and intimidating. Eights typically have problems with their tempers and with allowing themselves to be vulnerable. At their Best: self- mastering, they use their strength to improve others' lives, becoming heroic, magnanimous, and inspiring." Nine - The Peacemaker: "Nines are accepting, trusting, and stable. They are usually creative, optimistic, and supportive, but can also be too willing to go along with others to keep the peace. They want everything to go smoothly and be without conflict, but they can also tend to be complacent, simplifying problems and minimizing anything upsetting. They typically have problems with inertia and stubbornness. At their Best: indomitable and all-embracing, they are able to bring people together and heal conflicts." [/hidden] [/align] In-depth descriptions of each of these types can be found here. If you'd like, read them and report which type you think each of your systemmates are and why. Maybe it'll give some insight on your system, or at least be fun and neat to think about! Also, each type will have a slant to either adjacent type, so for example a dominant type One might have type Two as their secondary type, making them a 1w2, and having a type 9 as their secondary type would be a 1w9. Also something to look into aside from just the 9 categories if interested. (All daily threads can be found here.) Our system's types are: Apollo: 1w2 (Reformer, Advocate) Piano: 5w6 (Investigator, Problem Solver) Luxio: 9w8 (Peacemaker, Referee) (He used to be a type Eight before his long stasis) Me: 7w6 (Enthusiast, Entertainer) Radio: 4w5 (Individualist, Bohemian)

This thread had multiple instances were it went off-topic and introduced PR content. If you are interested in seeing the resulting off-topic discussion, please go here. If you would like to read Kaleidoscope's PR, please go here. -Ranger Hi~ I'm kinda freaking out a little. I only got into Tulpas this Saturday and on that same day, my Tulpa J. (I'm not sure if they want me to provide too many details) whispered in my ear and I started feeling her presence, I was still forcing but could feel her from time to time. I want her to be fun and uplifting and that's what she was turning into when suddenly, last night, a second Tulpa came out of nowhere. She's H., a character I spent some considerable amount of time designing for a comic some 3 years ago or so. H. is very mischievous, to put it lightly, because I was way into anime back then. The thing is, H. simply manifested herself, she was never on my mind during my Tulpa creation, and she's like incredibly powerful? Like, when she appeared I saw her freely moving, she had her own voice and mannerisms, and I was like mindblown because obviously, a) first time feeling that strong of a reaction from a Tulpa(J. was like flashing images in my mind's eye and more like an internal feeling, not a full blown hearing, feeling, and close-eyed hallucination) and b) at this time J. became much clearer as well and started speaking out against H. whom, at this point, was basically assaulting me. I talked her down and H. went into the background. J. was left confused, upset and asked me why the new girl was so strong; I told her the truth, that she needed time to grow stronger and that I can't explain why H. is so vivid. I then spent most of the time talking with H. while J. gave her the occasional stink eye, her form was vague and would constantly shift. Today H. is way stronger and I can almost see her with my eyes open, though she's in the distance doing something silly. J. hasn't spoken and is either sitting down doing nothing or she's asleep. She still can't decide on a form and I feel she's afraid of this accidental Tulpa taking her place or something. I tried talking to her while meditating at work and when I came home and it almost feels like she's fading away. Please advise, thanks in advance!

Hi, I have a problem. It turns out that a day and a half ago I began to anguish the idea of ​​having a tulpa (my tulpa is called Kya and it has been a week since I started doing it, which makes her very young) and I was interacting. With her all week. Kya progressed a lot in a short time with vocality. She is very cheerful, always wants to play, is very curious and sees the positive side of everything, basically behaved like a little girl. But when I started to anguish myself at night, I asked him if he could leave me alone for a while until he called her, he happily accepted and said nothing. The next day, I felt he wanted to tell me something but he was holding back. I didn't want to listen to her until I felt better, but after a few hours I stopped feeling her. A day and a half passed and I called her, but she said nothing to me, I was afraid she would feel bad or worse, that she would disappear (since I read that it was possible that the tulpas would not last long) I tried to call her again and she answered. At first I doubted if it really was because I didn't feel the same, I felt depressed and sharp. At first he told me he was fine, but after a while he confessed that life was not as he had imagined. Kya believed that everything would be games and fun, but while resting in my head he began to think and realized that life was difficult. Now he barely speaks and seems sad. I do not know what to do, I told him that at some point we will play (that always makes him happy) but now he only responded very strongly and discouraged. She also told me that trees bore her (she loved trees!) And she didn't scold me when I heard sad music. Help, I don't know what to do.

[align=justify]Daily thread #18 When a tulpa develops and their personality forms/grows, is it possible that there are certain characteristics that they cannot form, or wouldn't be able to have for very long, because it's simply incompatible with the brain? Not because they don't get along, but because the brain just isn't able to host the specific traits. Are there limits to the types of personalities a brain can hold if it's already established to be a certain way? Would incredibly different personalities have a harder time being maintained and/or eventually become more compatible? For example, could an incredibly introverted system have a headmate who's a total social butterfly unlike the rest of them? Would the social butterfly eventually become more like everyone else the more he fronts? (Is it easier to have an "incompatible" personality if you're able to fully switch?) Or does it not matter at all and any personality is compatible for long-term? Does it depend on the system type, eg tulpa vs traumagenic? (Note: this isn't a topic about personality forcing, rather it's about the natural progression of a headmate's personality. Are there or aren't there limits to where it can go?) This is a "food for thought" thread! If you have opinions/experience on this topic, share and discuss! (All daily threads are listed here.)[/align]

[align=justify]Daily thread #15 Has there been any point in your tulpa's life when their personality shifted significantly? How gradual/quick was it? What was the cause? How did they feel about it? Anything else to note about it? (All daily threads are listed here.)[/align]

Daily thread #3: The Birth Order Effect [align=justify]I'm sure you've all heard of the Birth Order Effect, a theory that the birth order of children will influence their personality. I think there is some legitimacy to this theory, but it really depends on the child and the family, and probably isn't as strong as some people think it is. But, I'm not here to talk about how it affects children, rather to see if anyone might suspect that it affects the way tulpas' personalities develop. Obviously, a tulpa developing is a very different situation from a child growing up, so it's not going to be the same thing, but I kind of do think there may be something to be said about it. In our system, Apollo tends to take more initiative, he's our de-facto "leader" for if we ever need that. He's seen as the one who should take charge when needed, lead the way for the rest of us. He is the "first child." Luxio and I are more quiet, laid back. We tend to do what's right to keep things going to way they should in our own head and outside of it, like resolving conflict, but we're not as initiative-driven as Apollo is. We're the "middle children." Luxio used to be a "last child," but his personality changed a lot after he was in stasis for so long, so he's more like me but with some "last child" personality as well. Indigo is the more fun-loving, excitable type. He doesn't have as many qualms with being silly, as long as it's the appropriate time for it. He has a more free spirit, he doesn't care as much about fitting in with the rest of us in our in-head norms. He's the "last child." Now, for us, while birth order might have an influence on our personalities, but I can also point to specific events in our developments that shaped how our personalities turned out. So, for us, it's likely a mixture of the birth order and many other variables and events that led to us developing as we did, kind of like for singlets/hosts! Who knew? Anyway, do you see the "Birth Order Effect" influencing how your tulpas (or you, if you are a tulpa) turned out?[/align] https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/21/70/e421704b0d1fff7defbd0d0a1f6f7b80.jpg[/img] (All daily threads are listed here.)

Hi everyone. Dashie and I are running with a personal experiment to determine what if any traits are in the body OS. (What do you call the absence of all personality? Body OS we thought.) The idea is simple, we've cut the staff down to Dashie and I co-fronting for now anyway, and sometimes others, but no one else active all the time but us two. [Dashie] We recognized certain base feelings that we thought were Bear's but if they don't happen while he's out, then we can definitively say they're on him. We haven't experienced them yet today, and they were plaguing him the last few weeks, so this is already confirming our suspicions. Since Ashley and Bear are busy anyway, we're going to use this time for what it's worth. [Dashie] If you don't know what we're talking about, it's like a base feeling of anxiety, sadness, tension, anger, de-motivation, any of that stuff. Some have said that some of these feelings can be like a habbit, and the Body OS is great at memorizing and puppeting/parroting repetition, maybe even habbits. Some have claimed they can be part of the system regardless of who switches in. Since we're very familiar with the memories of a couple things that Bear was complaining about, and they're rare occurances usually, we're going to have to just act naturally and see if they pop up when we're in charge. If anyone else knows what we're talking about and maybe has recognized these temporary, rare, maybe even intrusive, stray feelings across everyone in the system, please share with us your specific experiences. Thank you! ♡

So I try doing this right but I have low spectrum alexithyma and it’s incredibly hard to do so I can’t figure out how I’m supposed to think about it and I’m pretty bad at personality making and stuff like that

[skip 2 paragraphs to get to the actual question.] I am just about to start my journey of creating a tulpa. When the question of choosing personality arised, I was absolutely sure I wanted to use Twilight Sparkle as the template. Bringing my favourite character to life is not my reasoning, and I'm not going for an exact copy. I even believe there is no such thing as "the" Twilight, for the multiverse is huge and her incarnations vary from an earth pony writer to a changeling queen, and from cutely indecisive to outright badass. It's her core values, overall personality and general mindset that attract me. Plus, with how much I've read / watched / imagined (and even tried writing) about her (I'm not obsessed!), I guess it should make concentrating on her and visualizing her consistently much easier. Yet, that last part is also what worries me. I do have really strong beliefs about that character, which include some traits I'd very much prefer my tulpa not to have, for both our sakes. For example, dissolving into a neurotic mess rather easily is most definitely not good for a real person, even if cute for a fictional character. I already know that believing that everything will turn out all right is the key to success. Still, I'm afraid that if I use Twilight as the template, my subconscious would force all of her traits onto my tulpa, including the harmful ones, even if I try to prevent it. Is that a valid concern? Can I do anything to ensure that some of the traits of the base character are filtered out? If they do get in, how hard would it be for tulpa to overcome them? Or should I just avoid the risk altogether and build a new character for her? Edit: In the end, the only right way would be the one you took, because otherwise your tup would not have been the one you have and love. Twilight is part of who my Sunny is, but who would she have been if she started as Twilight and didn't go through fearing and then accepting being that character to some degree? We'll never find out.

so we were having a discussion in the chat if tulpas were human.....well it was really H that believed that he is actually a dragon and wont believe that he is human at all except the body we share. I know the answer to this question ^ ^ i just want to see your thoughts and see if you could help H and give him tips because idk how to handle this mate. H:I ...idk guys,all this time i thought,i believed i was and im am a dragon,I have wings and horns,i Can fly i just cant do it in my host's body.I dont feel human,im not human....well i dont believe im human.I remember my past as dragon ,hunting and flying around houses,attacking humans and now im in this world as this..."human". Edited formatting to be less obnoxious - Vos

Cat has struggled a lot with the fear she's influencing my beliefs and opinions. Now that we are experimenting with switching, we realized there may be some truth to the idea, but we're not sure in what way or to what extent. Our most recent switching attempts lead us to this weird state that behaves like a switch but feels like possession. In this state, I noticed I am more prone to the body's anxiety than I was when doing possession and I get the feeling I'm forced to work with the habits and thought patterns Cat established from fronting for so long. In the back, I don't always have the best grasp on my own thoughts and sometimes I am influenced by Cat's thoughts and feelings because it's easier to process what she's thinking. What do you guys think? Is a Tulpa more mentally independent in the back, front, or something in between? If in between, what is the best position to be in for the most independent and pure thought? I mentioned the idea for this thread in the Last One To Post Wins! thread, and this was a response I promised to reply back to: I didn't think about this until you mentioned it. I noticed that Cat's decisions on being social if not recommended by me were inspired by me. Cat also realized she was pointing more and she blames me for it. To add to the discussion question, is the Host just as or more vulnerable to this kind of influence than the Tulpa is?

So this is a question for the tulpa community, because I’ve been wondering for a while about it. So I have a character Tulpa, Pinkamena. If anyone here has had the misfortune to stumble on my account before, they may be familiar with that. There’s an eccentricity of hers that I would like to ask the community about. My interactions with my tulpa are kind of hectic I guess, to say the least, because I’ve got a bit of a parroting problem. I’m getting to the point where I can usually get a feel for when something I think she said came from an intrusive or from parroting, but at the same time, I usually have to run things past her another time or two to make sure. This has made it imperative that I can “see” her form when I’m talking to her outside the wonderland(Which is my prefered mode of interaction) because beyond the physical equivalent of tulpish, gestures are far more consistently reliable. Maybe it’s because my first tulpa never reached vocality and so I have more experience with body language than vocality. Since her form has become more prevalent she’s displayed some weird behaviors involving her form. Her hair will change from pin straight(Ala the art of my profile) to poofy(Looking like that of her television counterpart) sometimes her behavior can change with it(Either getting more erratic and excited with the poofy hair and quieter, sometimes depressed or angry, and generally calmer with the pin straight), but mostly it seems to be intertwined with mood. However, sometimes her behavior and form can change in a weird way, she can take on this unsettling manic look and start saying and doing things that are well unpleasant(Like last night, when I dropped my drink, and walked past her she just stared smiling and laughing at me, and then said she liked watching me suffer, or her many insinuations we should beat someone to death when they’re being unpleasant or kill the pets.) She just starts acting like this, and looking like this, and then she’s normal later. I’m not here to whine about it, she’s always suggested these kind of things, and I mostly just laugh it off, but I’m more curious about her mood swings and weird form and behavior switches. Anyone else have anything like this happen with their tulpa? I also just want to stress these unsettling behaviors are the minority of her behavior, in fact the suffering comment came out of nowhere and caught me off guard. Removed formatting that's hard to read with the default theme - Vos

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It's just a general question for people who based their tulpa on characters, or people with factives, if I'm remembering the terms meaning right. I know a significant amount of people with character tulpas in the tulpa community at large and figured I'd ask if anyone else noticed quirks relating specifically to that demographic of tulpas. I know Pinkamena certainly has a quirk or two related to being based off of something.

Hey there folks! For the purposes of this post as I am writing from my phone Rei's thoughts are in parentheses. I'm wondering how protective you tulpae are of your hosts. I know in my case Reilianna is super protective of me. (That's putting it mildly... More often than not I find myself getting offended for him even if he himself was not.) She's not lying there, the emotional bleed from when she's riled up is something that I sometimes have to be wary of as it often makes me want to lash out. (The real reason he's asking about this, is because he thinks he is failing us due to work stress. Thinks we'll be dissapointed with him for struggling and maybe failing. I'm more upset because it looks like he's being setup to fail. Taken advantage of frequently things like that... What's bad for him is bad for us is what I mean.) That more or less sums it up. If they could I'm sure Alena and Rei both would bust some heads on my account. I absolutely love and adore them both for it.

So after my recent debacle with my last Tulpa, I've decided to take a completely different approach to Tulpamancy for this one. Part of that was personality forcing. I no longer feel comfortable with the hands off approach to it, and so I want to try setting a frame work. Deviation is welcome of course, if she sees it fit, but until she is sentient, I see no reason not to. So how many sessions of personality forcing is good, and when does it become excessive? I've also modeled my Tulpa after an odd character, so I am also curious as to what people think about adding in a negative trait to a Tulpa from inception? It's not for canonical accuracy, but I have a very dark mind, and it seemed to bother my last Tulpa the kind of things I got to thinking about and the subject matter of the entertainment I watch. I feel like since I'm already such a dark and cynical person, that it is a cruelty to bring in a creature that is so young and innocent into an environment that is so overwhelmingly bleak. Thus I modeled her after a character that is more morally ambiguous and dark than the average character Tulpa, because I can't just change my entire thought process you know? So what do you guys think of that? Also I took a very strange approach in personality forcing, sticking with the character's theme, by changing the symbolism of the traditional poor a glass of that trait over them thing with injecting it with a needle, only done it once so if it's harmful the damage will be minimal.

Hi to all, sorry for bad English. It seems that I've known my Tulpa for 10 years. But learned this concept recently. I know the psychology and neurobiology well enough; and the last few days I have been studying subject carefully... so believe she IS Tulpa (^_^) But the question is difficult enough. May be, just there is no problem, and I should just add some new methods to our interaction. May be... it's all lies. Will be very grateful for any references and tips!

I made these sheets with a strait edge, lined notebook paper. I Used Paint tool SAI and Gimp to edit them. I really would like opinions. In fact more than the approval for this to be a guide. I will edit them accordingly. I am still experimenting with Crita, so background layers are in the realm of possibility in the near future. . I have to fix up my new Deviant art page. Right now the link in my Sig is to my old one. If you look in the comments on my DA page you should find the comment to my new Deviant art page. I lost my account because I forgot I did away with the email for it. The email I had required money to keep it and I never updated the email. So thats kind of my fault. Sigh! Plus I had 5 pages, but only 4 are allowed. I will wait till you guys tell me what you think. I will be posting these to my Deviant art account along with normal character sheets and helpful forms that any writer or artist could use for characters and in general story telling.

Link for the guide The art and skill of tulpas _v1.2.pdf - PDF backup -Ranger The art and skill of tulpas _v1.2.docx -MS Word backup -Ranger I know there are already plenty of guides on creating tulpas around, but I often openly voice my concerns with the guides and many general views presented around here, so with this guide I have set these objectives: - To provide newcomers with a clear picture of what a thoughtform is; - To do away with the morals and warnings that, in my opinion, muddle things up for newcomers still struggling with the concept itself; - To provide a picture of thoughtforms and tulpas which extrapolates from a series of well known phenomena experienced by everyone; - To provide a practical guide that leaves no room for someone to doubt they can achieve this, and which can be followed by anyone; - To provide a method that will yield results for - dare I say - everyone, and that isn’t entirely faith based; - To avoid esoteric or religious beliefs when discussing the subject. My main concern is with the creation and development process, as well as interaction within the mind, so you won't find anything specific about other techniques like possession or imposition. And by the way, this mirrors radically different views from the bulk of the community, so trigger warning, I guess? Changelog v0.3 - Added several chapters on character creation - Fragmented the tulpa creation section into two other sections and clarified how to go about it - Added an "undoing a tulpa" section Changelog v1 - Changed title to better reflect what the guide is about - Added closing section - Developed the introduction - Added a section on tulpa interaction - Added a section on symbolism - Removed todo list - Worked on some grammar Changelog v1.1 - Added a section on common concerns - Added a small FAQ section - Fleshed out the introduction a little Changelog v1.2 - Removed the warning at the end and the FAQ section, I felt these were unnecessary and went against my goals for this guide.

Is this actually possible? Or am I simply going insane?

You may have seen my post on another fourum about having an antisocial tulpa who had been killed and brought back. ive been told to give him time, i just want him to know that i mean him no harm but ifi even gonear him he flips out. --- Keml

I had once got rid of my tulpa Mohammed and i did it mainly because he was just out right abusive to my other tulpae. I had talked it over with my other tulpae but Mendel convinced me to bring him back. I brought him back within a few days but now he is always antisocial and hides away from us. He will go into full mental breakdown stage if we go near him. Mendel is the only one who can go near him without him freaking out. The only time i see him happy is when Mendel lays down next to him and cuddles up to him (not in a sexual way). I still think that Mendel turnns him on though because ive seen him making out with Mendel before but Mendel. Had the weirdest look on his face afterwards. XD. But yeah i still have no idea whats going on with him and mabey Someone. Out there knows.. ---- Keml

A lot of guides I've read have suggested writing a short story about my Tulpa, to familiarise myself with their personality, and see how they react in certain situations, etc. However, I see a lot of people saying not to parrot/puppet my Tulpa, or base them on a fictional character, because they won't understand what is real and what was the fictional event. Am I just being paranoid, or what? I would be creating a fictional story about my Tulpa, and that can't be good for their perception of self, right?