Utilizing/creating servitors as containers for fragments?

[XRDS]

[Lio] I realize this may be difficult to answer for anyone not in a larger/more complex plural system, but maybe not - I figure I may as well ask.

 

Basically, we have a few fragments or unelaborated/not-fully-formed headmates/alters. They are either partially formed but struggling to do so, or have only temporarily/weakly appeared. They can be problematic as due to the mental health and trauma involved nature of our system, they tend to come with unresolved or intense emotional or mental turmoil that can’t be reasoned with.

 

Having done some reading on servitors, however, I’m curious if there is precedent in building a servitor ‘casing’ or ‘container’ for these types of identity fragments that replicates some of their preexisting functions which can both keep them from wreaking havoc as well as provide them with a secure location to mature or dissolve back into the ‘mind sea’, whichever is better for them.

 

If this is something that’s been done (or could theoretically be done) I guess my next question is - which form would be better:

 

A), a “complete” form of an “unfinished” fragment (for example, a fragment that only ever exists to express fear and rage about chronic pain being given a servitor ‘shell’ in the shape/function of a coping mechanism/proper outlet for that sort of anger) -

 

Or B), a “container”, like a test tube or something where the fragment cannot escape or effect the mindscape but can absorb positive influence from outside in an effort to slowly shape it into a more well-rounded person? 

 

Or even perhaps C) both, where they are inside option A inside option B?

 

I also worry I’m overthinking this. In any case, assistance or advice appreciated - these fragments sometimes cause a lot of problems. Trying to force them into sentience in the tulpa-creation process we fear might cause them to become more unstable, but also leaving them be may be a bad option as they don’t seem to be improving on their own.

 

Apologies for the lengthy post, thanks for listening to me ramble!

[harvestmoon]

This is an interesting idea. It sounds like any of these options could lead you to creating a servitor or perhaps a tulpa separate from the fragment they are trying to complete. I can speak from exact experience but I do know that creating a person-like thoughtform can lead to them becoming a person and deviating from their purpose. We're not saying you shouldn't try. Just be aware of that possibility.

[M-M System]

[ATLAS] Doesn't sound like the worst idea, then again, I do have some questions/concerns to this approach. What if the servitor gains sentience on account of having a sentient/semi-sentient individual "within" them? Would you simply accept them as a new headmate? How many fragments do you hope to put inside one container? (If more than one, I'd imagine this could lead to them eventually fusing into one on account of sharing such a close space with one another and being "within" the same vessel/servitor. 

 

That being said, out of the three methods you suggested, I'd personally recommend the first one. With headmates, especially those formed to express pain or other strong emotions, you'll need to handle them gently, and with the proper respect they deserve. Confining them to a state in which they cannot escape from (such as the method described in the second example) denies them the agency or ability to express themselves fully and be treated humanely by the rest of the system. (This is an exception when the headmate(s) in question are in an active state where they are physically or emotionally harming the system beyond what can be contained by less forceful means, IE communication and compromise.) Again, from a traumagenic perspective, these headmates exist for a reason, and giving them healthier coping tools to help stop their maladaptive behaviors should help the system as a whole recover from whatever it is they're dealing with. 

 

 

I've never personally thought to try this, so I'm talking out of my ass here, but we are a larger traumagenic system, so it's fairly relatable to have a couple "half-baked" headmates who split off at one time or another with little to no input from us. 

 

TL;DR: I'd personally go with method one, or method three if these fragments are an active threat to the system's wellbeing in a way that cannot be resolved less forcefully. 

Edited April 16, 2023 by M-M System

[XRDS]

3 hours ago, harvestmoon said:

This is an interesting idea. It sounds like any of these options could lead you to creating a servitor or perhaps a tulpa separate from the fragment they are trying to complete. I can speak from exact experience but I do know that creating a person-like thoughtform can lead to them becoming a person and deviating from their purpose. We're not saying you shouldn't try. Just be aware of that possibility.

 

[Lio] True. I suppose if we try this method perhaps we’ll start with one and go from there, see what the process is like, and what happens happens.

 

2 hours ago, M-M System said:

[ATLAS] Doesn't sound like the worst idea, then again, I do have some questions/concerns to this approach. What if the servitor gains sentience on account of having a sentient/semi-sentient individual "within" them? Would you simply accept them as a new headmate? How many fragments do you hope to put inside one container? (If more than one, I'd imagine this could lead to them eventually fusing into one on account of sharing such a close space with one another and being "within" the same vessel/servitor. 

 

Honestly I think them gaining sentience would be a step in the right direction - it may help with communication. It would only be fair to accept them if they did. We’d probably have one fragment per container - randomly fusing already unstable fragments is probably not a great idea, maybe.

 

2 hours ago, M-M System said:

[Confining them to a state in which they cannot escape from (such as the method described in the second example) denies them the agency or ability to express themselves fully and be treated humanely by the rest of the system. (This is an exception when the headmate(s) in question are in an active state where they are physically or emotionally harming the system beyond what can be contained by less forceful means, IE communication and compromise.) Again, from a traumagenic perspective, these headmates exist for a reason, and giving them healthier coping tools to help stop their maladaptive behaviors should help the system as a whole recover from whatever it is they're dealing with. 

 

Oh, I realize now that my description probably sounded like confinement - if we went with the “container” route the idea is less “put them in a box they can’t escape from” and more “put them in some sort of sci-fi stasis tube where they can grow and stabilize in a more controlled space” - we would have someone watching them to let them out if they started showing any distress or whatnot. In any case though I think you’re right that the first option is the better one.

 

Thanks for the input both of you - much to consider!