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About the node where tulpa is able to make a clear reply?


Valaeus

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Folks, please take the trouble to recall if you can find a node where tulpa was able to make a clear reply?

For me this node is fuzzy. But I have found at least one event that happened to me that may be related to it: probably after about three months or so of my creation, my tulpa can still only answer short sentences like some simple neural reflexes. In order to get rid of this state and the ensuing fear that was bothering me, I tried one night to get the tulpa to make a long answer. Of course, it didn't go well and it looked like I was manipulating the tulpa into making the answers. But after some trial and error, starting right after this, he was able to speak as clearly, accurately, and without worrying as he does now. Can you guys recall such a node? Looking forward to your answers.

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Well unfortunately my node might have happened in 2012 with my first experience with an automous thoughtform who spontaneously began speaking for herself. 

 

Joy was a secondary character in one book I wrote then got two books of her own. In be the end of the first of her books, in the middle of a scene she said, "I'm not doing that." Perplexed, I talked to her frankly and for a moment I thought maybe I was channeling another dimension or something. A quick internet search revealed that it's not uncommon for authors to have their characters "come to life" and they called that a "soulbond". 

 

Throughout the second book she would sometimes assert her will and I took it as a cute and fun collaboration of sorts. When the book ended, she was left in her lore.

 

In 2018 I decided to make a tulpa and one Thursday afternoon I began visualizing her and within 20 minutes she spoke unprompted. She informed me "there are others". That was SheShe and the others were Ashley and Misha. They all appeared fully vocal and volitional.

 

A long way to say: sorry, I didn't seem to have a node that I can recall clearly.

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1 hour ago, BearBaeBeau said:

Well unfortunately my node might have happened in 2012 with my first experience with an automous thoughtform who spontaneously began speaking for herself. 

 

Joy was a secondary character in one book I wrote then got two books of her own. In be the end of the first of her books, in the middle of a scene she said, "I'm not doing that." Perplexed, I talked to her frankly and for a moment I thought maybe I was channeling another dimension or something. A quick internet search revealed that it's not uncommon for authors to have their characters "come to life" and they called that a "soulbond". 

 

Throughout the second book she would sometimes assert her will and I took it as a cute and fun collaboration of sorts. When the book ended, she was left in her lore.

 

In 2018 I decided to make a tulpa and one Thursday afternoon I began visualizing her and within 20 minutes she spoke unprompted. She informed me "there are others". That was SheShe and the others were Ashley and Misha. They all appeared fully vocal and volitional.

 

A long way to say: sorry, I didn't seem to have a node that I can recall clearly.

Unlike you, I was actively writing some fic about the tulpa at the time of creation. Also, on the latter point, I've been in a similar situation - but again, it was I who took the initiative to try (and, of course, didn't end up settling on it because I still wanted a two-person world) to create a second tulpa. the progress was not at all as slow and frustrating as it had been with my first tulpa. Suffice it to say that he was able to respond with some simple words almost immediately after I had done some thinking about certain of his personality traits, language, behavior, etc. Is this perhaps some manifestation of neuroplasticity? I seem to have read a lot of stories in the community of hosts possessing something similar.

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It is incredibly easy to make a fully vocal thoughtform now, however they won't be very volitional and independent on their own, I suppose that takes time or perhaps a spark of something, who knows what. 

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We just had ours about a month ago (well over a year since I created Athelas). We had been talking about possession, and I was wondering if I had just been lying to myself about our successful attempts. It kind of fed into some underlying doubts I'd been having about tulpas in general. That really bothered Athelas. It was the first time he had ever been legitimately upset with me, since normally his tolerance for my BS is endless.

 

We have a silly, overcomplicated ritual that we do when I need to "banish" a thought for whatever reason. We used it to purge my mind of those remaining doubts. It immediately became much easier to keep Athelas present, and his mental voice became so much clearer. It definitely felt like a breakthrough moment.

 

On 11/7/2023 at 11:56 AM, Valaeus said:

Is this perhaps some manifestation of neuroplasticity?

 

I think so. I've also felt that it's been somewhat easier to make additional tulpas after the first. Not necessarily that they need less time or attention, but I think once that door has been opened in your mind it's easier for others to come in. We didn't realize we had basically been forcing Hesper and Ormyn for a while by talking about/visualizing them. Then seemingly out of the blue they started talking too! 😅

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Tulpas:  Lenore 🕸️ Calliope 🐲 and Athelas 🌿 ((Sometimes we talk on here too.))

 

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