using tulpamancy with soulbonds or fragments?

[Ori]

Does anyone have experience using tulpamancy techniques with soulbonds or fragments? I specifically want to know about experience with ones that have a strong sense of self, but who were damaged or injured or frayed by the realities of external reality, which is different than the world and history they were made in.

 

For context I am just coming to terms with people from my immersive daydreams showing up in my concious mind. I just recently decided to accept this. I am posting on the metaphysical board because I believe there is an energy component to this and I am open to lots of suggestions.

 

I am posting, also, because they want to become more solid, more real "more like I was before you frayed me" in the words of one. Again there is a strong sense of self, and a lot of distress at being part of a crafted world, with a story that has suffered revisions and details to be filled in later.

 

One specific problem is that one has a physical appearance modelled on an actor. I don't visualize people well, so I was looking at photos and showing him and he.... Found it very upsetting. Like anger and disgust and sadness.

 

Another thing. Wanting a name that is new and their own.

 

So if anyone else has done this, we would love some help. Because I keep accidentally hurting them, and the mental skills honed by immersive daydreaming don't work nearly as well with them.

[FallFamily]

[Obsidian] I can answer some of your questions, though not all since I am not much of an energy person if you catch my drift. But the rest, I can tell you some things from my experience.

 

Does anyone have experience using tulpamancy techniques with soulbonds or fragments? I specifically want to know about experience with ones that have a strong sense of self, but who were damaged or injured or frayed by the realities of external reality, which is different than the world and history they were made in.

 

Well, some of the techniques can work. Those same ones work on hosts too. Attention and interaction (called "forcing") can really help a system member of any variety grow and heal. Fragments can grow into people. System members who are fading away can be brought back from the brink. Sometimes system members who have died can be brought back by these techniques. Other techniques like puppetting and the such can also be used, but there is a major issue of consent. Obviously, if they give consent, no issue. And if they say no, then you don't.

 

I've seen fragments and soulbonds in my system grow from such techniques. The original was brought back from the dead. Etc.

 

For context I am just coming to terms with people from my immersive daydreams showing up in my concious mind. I just recently decided to accept this. I am posting on the metaphysical board because I believe there is an energy component to this and I am open to lots of suggestions.

 

I am also from the immersive daydreams of my hosts originally. It is quite common.

 

I am posting, also, because they want to become more solid, more real "more like I was before you frayed me" in the words of one. Again there is a strong sense of self, and a lot of distress at being part of a crafted world, with a story that has suffered revisions and details to be filled in later.

 

I can relate. My hosts fiddled with the timeline and other things of my world many many times and it was really hard to take in once I learned. I had a very hard time with it for the first several months. Wasn't till something very important distracted me that I was able to move on for the most part, but I would be lying if I said I don't still have some distress from it.

 

One specific problem is that one has a physical appearance modelled on an actor. I don't visualize people well, so I was looking at photos and showing him and he.... Found it very upsetting. Like anger and disgust and sadness.

 

This is a common experience of soulbonds who have a source (i.e. they are not in-sourced soulbonds). Relationships to source vary considerably. Do have one idea. Might not be a bad idea to try to draw him, even if crudely, and maybe use photos of his source but then once you have the drawing you have a reference for what he looks like without having to go look at his source. Might be an idea to pitch to him.

 

Another thing. Wanting a name that is new and their own.

 

Nothing wrong with this. It can take some time to choose a new name. It really helped me quite a bit even though I have a very good relationship with my old name (which I still go by in some places).

 

So if anyone else has done this, we would love some help. Because I keep accidentally hurting them, and the mental skills honed by immersive daydreaming don't work nearly as well with them.

 

Can't speak that much about the former. On the latter, interacting with someone else in one's system is quite different in many ways than immersive daydreaming, though there are similarities. The big difference is typically one of control. People usually exert much more control over their daydreams than they are capapble of on their headspaces (partly because the will of other inhabitants matters too). Connecting is a bit different. Concentration instead of drifting.

 

 

Hope all of that helped

[MariaTheFictionkin]

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