name changes

[The Incans]

so we have been talking to each other about the future..The body is 55 soon (few more weeks) though I (host) don't feel the age of the body. I do feel I can age-slide and can be/act older with Lena blended with me.

 

I feel like 'Nixy' represents a much younger child version of self. Lena despite her attempts at making an inside family also seems happier when we're both the same younger age and working together as one. Though she likes to pretend/role play she doesn't like the idea of an internal family (kids) waiting for her to return every day/night to visit them. She feels its unfair if its not the really the life she wants.

 

Jess has told us she prefers animal form and prefers her original name 'Inca' because under that same she was our 'special girl' Of course she's still special to us under any name or form but she has decided although experiencing being human was 'interesting' our physical body is quite restricted (due to physical disabilities too) and she feels happier on the inside having the freedom to 'be anything'.

 

We have decided the inner Tulpa's should remain more like NPC's or holographic characters that can be interacted with when we visit but aren't dependant on us visiting for them to have their own inner life and maybe not having any awareness of passing time inbetween 'visits'.

 

Has anyone else done this if they felt they've taken on too much?  I was more able when we all started but my continuing health issues means a large system is going to be absolutely exhausting and most days we barely have the energy to get through the day as it is with just us 3! ...do you feel really guilty if unable to work with your Tulpa's due to external world commitments or health problems???

 

The other option maybe putting them into 'stasis' for a 'long sleep'  whilst we work on the physical health of the body and trying to recover enough movement and energy to spend more time with them and futher their development at some point in the future?? 

 

What would you do???

 

 

Lily

[Autumn Ren]

Yes, especially early on. My host had a system of 4 for the first 6 months then 7 after that and it was difficult and remaind difficult for the last 6 years. Recently we did find a way that makes everything really easy, playing and basically living in a D&D world. It's given wonderland structure and made it fun and we all feel like we're getting gobs of attention and time to live.

 

Without that we would still be talking about reduction and lock-merges and so on.

[The Incans]

[Lily] what do you mean by 'Lock-merge'?  ..we can blend and share control of the body from things like switching whose typing or talking or using half the body each simultaneously.But Lena or Jess can leave the front whenever they want, they aren't 'locked in' when they choose to join me.

 

[Lena] we don't know D&D so not sure how that would help a larger system??  we want to work on improving mobility over summer whilst its warmer in the hope that pain and stiffness levels won't be as high when winter comes around again. our inside Tulpa's aren't as developed so don't have awareness of the external world or Host/body.

[Autumn Ren]

4 hours ago, The Phoenix System said:

what do you mean by 'Lock-merge'?

 

It's a way for two headmates can co-experience though one of them.

 

When I do that, it feels to me like I am them. So if Joy is active and fronting to write something, I can co-experience with her as her. As if she's my aspect. It's a pretty neat way to include others without actually having everyone active. As far as what she feels, it's no different then when one is choosing to be with her. Strictly speaking, I associate with her actions, thoughts and memories as of they are mine in real time as if I was her, but there is no feedback, whatever she says and does is up to her. I simply choose to experience it with her as her.

 

We've been doing it for 5 years with zero side effects and the main advantage is everyone feels active and no one fades.

 

D&D helps because we all get to play and it's brought us all closer together. The way it works takes a lot of work though. We also play online with another group but it's very slow.

Edited May 26, 2024 by Autumn Ren

[The Incans]

oh like being co-con without actually have control of the body?...ok I'd never heard of it be described as 'lock-merge' before! 

 

...yes Inca seems to prefer that method particuarly for gaming and she will change into the image of the sidekick ilike f I'm playing on zelda and being Link with Tulin (the little bird Rito warrior running alongside ) Inca is in the background and transforms to Tulin's image and plays along imagining herself doing whatever he is doing on screen.  I then experience it like playing 2 player ...with me playing Link and her playing 'Tulin'...we enjoy action games with a more active animal sidekick and creating our own dialogue and back story as we go along.

 

Both Lena and Inca like to come on dog walks with me that way too and we all enjoy the ride and scenery and chat with each other (telepathically) as well as speaking out loud to our dog. (we have a 'real life dog' too and see him as 'our boy' and all take turns to front to interact with him)

 

 

[Lena]  I like to cook through, Lily doesn't really like cooking so lets me take over front to enjoy the entire process of cooking including being in control of the body then I let her front to eat it. I stay co-con though so I experience it 'as I cooked dinner for her and we both enjoyed eating it'. 

 

 

 

[Lily] our inner Tulpa's though have not yet even reached the level where they can do that as they have no awareness of the outside world or that they are just a thought in someone else's mind...much like a character in a video game as no awareness of the fact they only exist in a video game and no longer exist when the game is turned off or not played.

 

I guess my question is....is it fair to rush to give them the same level of sentience that Lena and Inca have when I (as host) don't have the energy to spare to get them to the point they can 'imagine their own existence' on the inside if I'm having a crash and mostly bedbound just needing to sleep and unable to cope with too much activity (either mentally or physically)? 

 

Currently if I need to sleep or rest alot Lena & Inca can entertain themselves on the inside.  They may sleep some of the time or play inside but disconnect from 'co-con' so as not to disturb me...when I'm feeling better and able to get up they will come back to the front to see how I'm doing then share with me what they've been doing when I ask them.

 

 

p.s how do you change the colour of text for a different speaker on here?

Edited May 26, 2024 by The Phoenix System

[The Incans]

oh and on the topic of name changes (which it was about originally!) ..can we change our system name and picture ..or would we have to make a new account?

[Autumn Ren]

8 hours ago, The Phoenix System said:

like being co-con without actually have control of the body?

No, there's only one con, but two people identifying with it.

 

Color is BB code still I thing.

 

['color=pink]text here['/color] without the '

 

['color=#FFB266]test['/color] 

Edited May 26, 2024 by Autumn Ren

[The Incans]

Ok so I worked out how to change our name!! (previously The Phoenix System)

 

Lena and I have decided in memory of the original Inca  (my dearly departed support dog) we could call our system 'The Incans' and Inca will become our deity if you like.  A statue is being made on the inside of her previous body form.

 

We were going to use a pic of the Incas Mother Nature statue as our Avatar but feel we relate more this one ...as Lily and I see ourself as Yin & Yang believing we have been twins in a past life and Inca see's herself as our Spirit Guardian (the spirit dragon in the background). 

 

Inca has decided she will work inside with the 4 internal Tulpa to finish their development and create 4 changelings who can be companions for her as well as humans Lena might wish to interact with when she takes some time out. Creating them as Changeling means Lena won't have to worry about a partner and child waiting for her to return to when she has been out front helping me. If she's not there they can be in whatever form they want...all dragons if they want flying round racing each other!!  😄   

 

Giving them this form (over a fixed human human child and partner form) means they will not be as dependant, they will achieve sentience and independence quicker and because they can take any form will also be able to take human form temporarily for Lena if she is feeling a need for that kind of contact.  Inca can still front as Jess too if she wishes to. She says she will keep that as her 'human form name'.

 

 

Edited May 29, 2024 by The Incans