soweli li pali e seme / What is the Soweli system up to?

[Soweli]

Uhm I guess progress report thread for longer journaling. Also because I want to uh how does it work ask a bunch of questions to people and hopefully learn in order to help us

 

So anyways 99% of the talking will probably be me, the host, Azutsune. Uhm, not sure what to talk about today so I'll just throw some interesting stuff out about us

 

- Our mindscape is an island that looks like a crescent, but the crescent doesn't actually point one direction all the time. In fact, our mindscape always seems to face the sun, leaving it looking like it's in the same direction away from the island despite clearly rising and setting. I didn't think about the detail much way back when it was noticed, but I suspect it has something to do with fronting. If Ecco were to front, would the island start facing the moon? Also sometimes entering it is weird. Most of the time I just show up there on the beach, but sometimes I wash ashore and have to cough up sand / water, and one time I got spit out by some t-rex i think and was there? I also enter mindscape via "switch state", meaning sometimes I get so focused on it I can see the physical world and the mindscape beach at the same time. I can even see my espeon form when doing this, and feel its ears and tail. Moving myself moves it, and it's generally become the state i'm most comfortable in. It also normally suggests Ecco's presence because I get a lot more reactions from them while in switch state.

 

- Uh there's a house in mindscape. We made it yesterday, and it looks pretty good. I went off to the forest and broke a block off a tree (somehow) and turned it into a big wooden cube. All of a sudden it just started changing and I became aware of Ecco and they just started painting and doing all sorts of stuff. The finished exterior has some really nice window covers made with black metal, and the house's walls sorta look like a bee. I remember there being a room with like cyan walls with unicorn patterns on them and like blue furniture everywhere. I looked up and saw two like catwalks near the top and then tripped over furniture. The highest catwalk has a door on one side that leads to what must be "my room", because it's empty. Ecco hugged me after I saw them in that room, and it felt really nice. Not sure why they hugged me though.

- Ecco communicates a lot with body actions since they can't seem to talk yet. Like we just hug sometimes or press our heads into eachother. Sometimes they like peek over my shoulder when I'm sitting down or stare at me in disappointment or laugh (although I can't hear their voice). Sometimes though I hear a thought that sounds like a fact in my mind that seems to come from them. Like just a random "Ecco is happy" or "Ecco likes chicken" that crosses my mind and really seems like they thought it to me somehow

 

- Uh I tried hypnosis once for fun? The most notable results were that Ecco's eyes are now consistently bright red and that if I try to like manually "use psy on them" it doesn't work anymore. I'll try that more and hope I can keep developing Ecco's independence / voice

 

Anyways some random stuff I'm trying to figure out so you can understand where we're going

 

- does anyone have any useful tricks that could help Ecco to speak english? Most guides claim vocalization is hard and I really agree to be honest. I can't hear a distinct other mindvoice at all yet.

 

- is there some conveinent repository of tulpamancy related hypnosis files? I did some looking online and the closest I found to that was some channel on youtube with consistently negative commentary suggesting them to be an abusive cult sooooo

 

- where do I get confidence at? Because I keep losing it over and over lol not lol it sucks and is very annoying

 

- I'm afraid of parroting like most other newbies and I'm also afraid of putting too much confidence in Ecco. Where do I balance it? Cuz like sure parroting bad generically. But also, sometimes I think they're talking to me and then I realize it's just my voice ping ponging to myself somehow. So how do I balance between the parrotnoia and benefeit of the doubt

 

- How do I shut my thoughts up? Because I think too much and I think Ecco can barely get over the sheer amount of voice I have in our head already

 

Uhm thanks for reading this I guess.

Have a good day or something!

sina li jo e tenpo pona anu ijo a

 

 

 

 

Edited June 16, 2025 by Soweli
correction

[ringgggg]

4 hours ago, Soweli said:

does anyone have any useful tricks that could help Ecco to speak english?

Ask a question directed to your tulpa, then take the first thought that follows and interpret it as your tulpa's. It's not foolproof by any kind of merit, but it's still a great jumping off point.

 

4 hours ago, Soweli said:

is there some conveinent repository of tulpamancy related hypnosis files?

Linkzeldas_Ultimate_Self-Hypnosis_Scripts_for_Your_Tulpaforcing_Needs.pdf

Here. It's on the guides master list too

 

4 hours ago, Soweli said:

I'm afraid of parroting like most other newbies and I'm also afraid of putting too much confidence in Ecco. Where do I balance it?

On 7/10/2023 at 12:23 AM, ringgggg said:

Again, the whole process that comes with believing is really important. If you think that the voice you're hearing is tulpa, then it's tulpa. If you think it's you, it's you. This is grossly simplifying it, but that's the whole gist of narration early on. It's not much of a concern until you get into the later stages of the process. All you need to worry about right now is fleshing out Rutile as an individual.

 

If you're scared of parroting, don't be. It's a manageable process, and there are lots of guides out there that cover it and how to deal with it. Parroting has always had the chance to turn your would-be tulpa into a servitor doll, but that's only if you let it. Exercise a steady amount of concern about parroting, but not too much. You can periodically ask Rutile if you're parroting when they get to talking more.

 

Like a plant in the garden, a tulpa needs something to grow onto. If the plant isn't tethered to a stake early on, it's practically formless and will probably shrivel up. You want the plant to grow alongside that stake (a-la you) at first. It may take months for it to get to a noticeable prominence. You're free to remove the stake when the plant can hold itself up - a declaration of self-sufficiency. 

 

4 hours ago, Soweli said:

where do I get confidence at?

If it feels gay, you're doing it right.

 

4 hours ago, Soweli said:

How do I shut my thoughts up?

Zoloft.

 

Just kidding.

 

My true, actual, definitive answer to your question will always be meditation. Meditation is the best thing a tulpamancer can do to get the most out of their forcing. When you sit down and meditate for the first time, you realize that it's really difficult to keep focus on the breath. That's by no fault of your own. You've been so conditioned to hop from one thing to the other that it's manifested in your attention span. Have no fear - it's just a matter of reversing the crazy monkey mind through focusing on the breath and your attention can return to your hands. If you're meditating and find yourself getting distracted in the middle of breathing (that's a when, not an if), don't get frustrated. It happens to everyone so don't go thinking that singling yourself out for a situation everyone else grapples with is going to make things better. Because it's not. The only way through the problem is not to react to it, but to calmly, diligently shift your focus back to the breath. Do this every time you get distracted. Every time. Soon, the time in between breathing and when you get distracted will start to get longer and longer until you realize you've just spent twenty straight minutes focusing on nothing but your breath! Again - and I cannot stress this enough - your mind will get distracted no matter what you do, but you'll always be nudging it back into your focus as soon as you realize it was wandering.

 

I recommend you check out The Mind Illuminated by John Yates if you're really looking to get into it. It's like a meditation bible. It's got everything you'll ever need in there.

 

For me, I usually meditate 15-20 minutes in the morning, and it's had lasting benefits on my ability to focus, not to mention resolve, when you factor in how your brain has to suddenly get used to how you're doing this for 15-20 minutes every morning lol.

 

4 hours ago, Soweli said:

Sometimes though I hear a thought that sounds like a fact in my mind that seems to come from them. Like just a random "Ecco is happy" or "Ecco likes chicken" that crosses my mind and really seems like they thought it to me somehow

.. / - .... .. -. -.- / . -.-. -.-. --- / .. ... / - .-. -.-- .. -. --. / - --- / - .- .-.. -.- / - --- / -.-- --- ..- / -- .- - .

 

Also, is that toki pona in the title? I don't actually know what toki pona looks like but it's giving me that kind of energy

[Soweli]

tenpo pi pona suno tawa sewi a / good morning!

 

A lot happened over the last two days, and there's a lot for me to learn still.

 

First off,

On 6/16/2025 at 10:14 PM, ringgggg said:

Also, is that toki pona in the title? I don't actually know what toki pona looks like but it's giving me that kind of energy

lon / yes. I've been learning for a while now. It's a fun language, not one that Ecco knows yet tho

 

On the topic of ringgggg's post, I have now downloaded and am starting to work on both the readings that they suggested. Still a ways away from completing either though...

 

As for tulpamancy related stuff, Ecco has a distinct voice now. Weirdly enough, my voice is really high pitched in my head. Ecco's voice seems to be a little closer to the physical body's voice, but is also a lot more mature sounding. With that sense registered, the last one Ecco's missing is smell. I suggested vanilla to them and had it turned down, so I'm trying to find other smells to try with them.

 

Going with the first thought in our mind when asking Ecco seems to help a lot. Maybe I'm messing up here and there / reading a lot of things that aren't Ecco as Ecco, but Ecco doesn't always seem to be able to tell me what is and isn't them, so I think getting any response consistently is good.

 

I uh built a church in mindscape out of frustration. Tried talking to someone in the physical world about us being a system and the only thing they told us over and over was that this is how people go insane and that one guy had voices in his head and burnt down a church. I feel like I lost a lot of faith in them as a family member, which sucks. But because of that, I finally actually remembered to build a church in mindscape. Took a lot of trees and a couple hours, but it exists now. I feel like it helps a lot to have memorable and important things like that church within mindscape.

 

I've also been trying to shift my thinking to work differently. I'm trying to move most of my thoughts to things that my mindscape form actually says out loud. That way, I can make it very clear when I'm saying something and give Ecco more room to make it clear they're saying something. Hoping it helps some.

 

Anyways, time to go do something. Have a good day everyone! / sina jo e tenpo pona a

[Soweli]

Got a lot to talk about since last time. This is half an update on my efforts and half a story about Ecco blacking out and scaring me.

 

So, first. Meditation. Did that today for the first time. If anything, that made it clear how suprisingly hard it is. I can't even count 10 breaths without losing focus, but proud of myself for trying and keeping a positive attitude. My goal is to hopefully just keep going at it for now, and make the habit stick before moving on and reading stage 2.

 

Next, that story. So family trip resulted in us ending up in a town of "worldly desires" otherwise known as drugs and gambling. Long story short, me and Ecco did a lot of talking, and eventually even had some matching outfits as we walked and talked down the street.

 

But then Ecco started getting dizzy. I was worried about it, but tried to downplay it. But not long after, Ecco blacked out. Their body collapsed, and I couldn't hear them at all. Fortunately, they came too later when we left that town, but it really was not a fun experience.

 

Ecco is alright. In fact, I think Ecco talks a lot more than they used to, but that was a really scary moment for me.

 

In retrospect maybe not as long an update as I thought, but just figured these things were relevant. Maybe I can throw some random fun stuff in at the end:

 

- Ecco absolutely loves dressing up. If I do something with a distinct "style" for long enough, they come up with an outfit to match. They had a really cool western fit in that town we were in, for example.

 

- Speaking of, Ecco seems to be much more in control of mindscape. They've been changing things in their house, and even moved me once!

 

Anyways, that's all for this random update. See you later! / mi lukin e sina kepeken kama a