Meki June 4, 2013 Author June 4, 2013 So last night I did do quite a lot, went over my wonderland rooms and over his appearance trying to imprint it in my mind. Romeo doesn't seem anywhere near vocal and I'm wondering if perhaps I should create a second Tulpa and they could help each other along. I know this would be quite hard, but I'm wondering if it is logical. Tell me what you think?
Dr.Simmons June 4, 2013 June 4, 2013 I'm no tulpa expert, but I do think it would be more logical to just start with one tulpa. That way you'll be able to devote every single bit of your energy and attention to that one tulpa. When you get your first tulpa finished, then your belief in tulpae will be so concrete that working on tulpae will be much more easy. I'm sure any successful tulpa creator reading this can agree with that^. When you finish your first tulpa, you can also have him help you make two tulpae at a time. "You are required to do nothing, least of all believe. Shut ones eyes tight or open ones arms wide, either way, one's a fool" -A courtesy of NotQuiteSkeptical "I don't care if you don't believe me, I don't need you to!"
Meki June 5, 2013 Author June 5, 2013 That makes sense. As it is I have limited time to spend on Romeo as it is, so it will be quite a while before I'm finished. My God, if I didn't have school I wouldn't have to rush everything to get it done. I mean exercising my horse takes up a good few hours and then chores and homework, I'm left with barely an hour of good, undisturbed forcing time.
NotQuiteSkeptical June 5, 2013 June 5, 2013 Time... Yeah I know the feeling. Between work, relationships and the project im working on, finding a good time to force becomes a nightmare. Of course there are things you can put down to make time to force, but not everything. I'm yet to tell my other half "Yeah, well, I'm off to go talk to the voices in my head." She knows that I'm working on a Tulpa but I dont think she understands it completly: she just thinks i'm crazy. Shes probably right. Thankfully, I usually get a good 30 - 40 minutes to force on my lunch at work. I imagine that you dont get the luxury of peace and quiet at school though. Best advice I can give? Wake up an hour earlier, give yourself 20 minutes to wake up properly, 10 minutes to prepare and 30 minutes to force. You can do the same at the end of the day if you like too. This is great because if everyone thinks you're asleep then your not likley to be disturbed. "Do I fear death? Absolutely, only because it's disappointing. Life is so amazing to witness and be a part of. If I could live until the stars die and the universe goes cold, I would do it just because I want to know how the story unfolds and if it actually ends at all or we keep finding a way."
Meki June 6, 2013 Author June 6, 2013 That's a great idea, the only problem being I have to get up really early anyway to shower, feed my animals etc, the thing I do is go to bed earlier, but I often drop off to sleep... Which I think is bad... I actually don't know what to do anymore, I visualize, touch up his personality etc every time I force and then I don't know what to do to get more done, so hes closer to actually talking and moving etc...
NotQuiteSkeptical June 6, 2013 June 6, 2013 A lot of people keep saying that: I've come up with a solution which works for me which I hope you dont mind if I copy / paste. I'm not saying its great advice: it's what I'm doing and I'm quite happy with it though: Heh, I hit that stage. Guess I'm kind of still at it: Crystal still isn't sentient enough to talk to normally or anything like that. I basicly go to some of the various areas in my wonderland and just focus, visualise everything around me and try to ignore her: I'm always aware that shes there but I try to avoid thinking about what she's doing what she might say. The idea being that anything she does or says will (hopefully) be of her own accord: not a result of my subconsious. I've had mixed results: sometimes I know I'm parroting and have to stop myself. Sometimes I suspect I might be and just roll with it. Sometimes I know I'm not, when she does stuff I just wouldnt expect. I'm happy to take things slow like this for a while until I get better at keeping my thoughts from influencing her. Effectivly, you just try to work on yourself, rather than your tulpa. Your tulpa is there, but your not trying to make them better at speaking, your making yourself better at listening. You direct all of your thoughts onto yourself and stop caring exactly what your tulpa gets up to. This has two benefits for me: 1. Self improvement. I actually do get better at visualising, hearing things in my mind, seeing, smelling tasting ect... I stongly believe in the train of thought that Tulpa not being able to speak is incorrect: It's us that dont know how to listen. 2. Your tulpa's actions wont be bound to yourself. They might not do much, but whatever they do you know will be their own actions, not puppeting. ------ EDIT ------ Falling asleep while forcing! I dont know how you force, but the best solution I can give is sit up. I fall asleep EVERY TIME I try to force lying down: Instead, I sit half lotus on my bed, or anywhere really, with my back against the wall for support. (not necessary, just makes it more confortable.) "Do I fear death? Absolutely, only because it's disappointing. Life is so amazing to witness and be a part of. If I could live until the stars die and the universe goes cold, I would do it just because I want to know how the story unfolds and if it actually ends at all or we keep finding a way."
Meki June 7, 2013 Author June 7, 2013 It seems like a pretty good idea, I might try that, well all your ideas. Just been a bit stumped lately. I'll try get something more informative up tomorrow.
NotQuiteSkeptical June 7, 2013 June 7, 2013 Just been a bit stumped lately. I think a lot of people hit that stage: I'm just realising myself that it dosent matter: I think that early on people tend to think "Oh my god, I need to force! Need to do things!" When really it's just a case of realising that as long as your following the right mindset, your head does a lot of the work for you. With Crystal I ended up like that and it was like hitting my head against a brick wall. Last night when I forced I just kind of faded into my wonderland, not really planning anything in particular. I was hoping to just spend time with her and relax - Call it 'passive Improvement' I guess. To cut a long story short, the one time I went into a forcing session with no plans whatsoever was the best session I've had, including some kind of strange adventure which I was NOT expecting. Speaking of which, I need to add that to my log... "Do I fear death? Absolutely, only because it's disappointing. Life is so amazing to witness and be a part of. If I could live until the stars die and the universe goes cold, I would do it just because I want to know how the story unfolds and if it actually ends at all or we keep finding a way."
Meki June 8, 2013 Author June 8, 2013 Haha, I've been pretty passive when it comes to forcing. It feels like I'm getting nowhere, but I'm sure I'm getting places quite slowly, but we will get there. Me and Romeo haha
Meki June 10, 2013 Author June 10, 2013 So I've done a massive total of nothing over the last few days, except add a third room above the "gym" with windows along one wall and mirrors on the other three with wooden floors. I don't know why or what for. But its just there now.
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