Develop a New Forcing Technique

[Guest Vaemund]

The following Passage I found while reading the following occult book: "Practical Techniques of Astral Projection" by Dr. Douglas Baker

 

Basically I would like to develop the technique that is mentioned in the excerpt below

 

Duality of Consciousness

Mrs Garrett had developed, to a high degree, a sort of duality of consciousness. Oliver-Fox, writing under the pseudonym of Hugh G. Callaway, used to experience the same phenomenon: I.could feel myself standing in the dream and see the scenery of the astral plane, but at the same time I could feel myself lying in bed and see my bedroom. This dual consciousness is characteristic of what the English Master Robert Browning once described to me as 'esolepsy', the ability to turn the mind inwards and to be conscious in two worlds. This forms the basis of the new yoga which the West is to develop in the Age of Aquarius. "It requires the yogin to channel forces from the inner world in which he is also conscious. For those of us who are frontiersmen of the new age, who are pioneering the new yoga, the observation of common factors of experience in this field is vital. Oliver Fox, Mrs- Gamett and I myself describe physical, mental and emotional symptoms which show that we are on the right track though our paths are slightly different. There is cataleptic trance whilst esolepsy exists. Those who follow us will have to learn to move their limbs in this state, whilst-I for my-part can, after twenty years of endeavor, move only a finger or two

 

For those of you who are familiar with the aspects of tulpaforcing this may strike a chord of truth from within you as it did to me. If any of you can discern the context of this new "yoga" we need you to experiment with this "esolepsy" in any way you can. So start throwing out ideas; does anyone feel like trying to enter an esoleptic trance?

 

Basically I've discerned that the meditation would be as follows:

enter the wonderland

impose/tulpaforce your tulpa on your wonderland, get used to looking around

remain conscious in the "real world"

get used to looking around

impose/tulpaforce in the real world simultaneously

 

basically like hooking your mind up to two separate monitors, and forcing in both minds

try this out, work around with it, see what happens, please post back you know the drill

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I was thinking about this while I was in the shower, this would require that the yogin entirely enter the wonderland wouldn't it? Otherwise the persons would have no trouble at all moving and wiggling their fingers! Absolutely insane.... bah nevermind, I'll look in to this, I'll be checking this thread later. *sulks away*

[Guest]

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[Guest Vaemund]

Good point.

As I see it if you are at the point though where you can adopt full wonderland senses (to the extent of "leaving" your physical body) you are probably done with your tulpa anyway. Just a note for any that are passing by, I should mention to you that there are never any shortcuts, because in the end, you will always get out exactly what you've put in. This holds especially true for development techniques in which you are training your body and mind like a muscle. In this case you are probably better off by simply increasing your efforts to get what you want. Think about it like going to the gym- sure you might be able to find that "magic workout" but if you waste your days flipping through health magazines you'll still be a wimp in the end.

 

However, this would probably make a SICK switching technique, someone just needs to figure out how to do it.

edit: I still want to see this turned in to a forcing technique just because I can

[Guest]

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[MindSeeker]

I don't grasp, how the described technique is dual-conscious. Rather, it appears to me, that you "connect two feeds" to a single consciousness, which would be better described as split attention. You might be able to reduce the cognitive interference, this causes, through training, but I would believe, that in the end there would not be much of a gain, because the basic limitations of working memory would still apply. Perhaps you would get somewhat of a boost, because you exercise your concentration and learn to process information more efficiently in the process.

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[waffles]

Ignoring the astral projection and so on (somewhat out of place here) it just sounds like multitasking. Imagining yourself in your wonderland while staying aware of your actual surroundings, yes? It's not really novel, or helpful to my eyes. Certainly, the ability to visualise without engaging fully is helpful, but imagining yourself somewhere else seems a bit pointless. if you are just lying on your bed then it won't help you, and otherwise it is a good recipe for a car accident.

[Chupi]

This is pretty much what I do for passive in-wonderland forcing. A long while back I decided to keep some level of presence in the wonderland when I'm doing IRL things, so I could pay some attention to my then single tulpa, and so she wouldn't be alone. I've gotten better at it, so on a good day I can be aware of both what I'm seeing IRL and in the wonderland. Focusing more entirely on one makes the other go more ignored, though.

 

It's also led to both me and Lyra being able to be in multiple places, aware of both. This has led to a trick I call shared imagination. One morning I was sitting with her on the bed in the wonderland, and tried sending her an image, a small scene with both of us in it. We both experienced it from our points of view in it, and were able to interact with each other in it, all the while still being aware of sitting next to each other on the bed. The dual- (multiple-, really) location thing also lets her space out while with me and be different places in the wonderland, doing her own thing while not really being alone.

 

The other two tulpas aren't as good at doing it. We tried doing the shared imagination thing with them, and the result was they teleported into the scene, no longer being where they were in the normal wonderland layer.

 

Another multilayer thing I did before all of this was basically forcing while forcing. I lay in my IRL bed to force, and entered my wonderland. (This was before the always-on wonderland presence.) I sat with Lyra on the sofa and asked her to show me someplace. She brought me to a place in her mind, a cloudscape lit in a bright golden light. It was there "alone" for a while, my voice reaching her easily because she's basically all around. Then I sat down in a cloud and forced there, re-entering my wonderland. I saw myself and Lyra sitting together on that couch, and walked around a bit. At that moment I was at some level aware of lying on the physical bed, sitting on the wonderland couch, sitting in the cloud, and standing behind the couch looking at myself and Lyra on it. Pretty quickly that last layer went all trippy wavy colors and the whole thing collapsed, leaving me just on my IRL bed.