Forcing and sleep questions

[Hunzii]

So, here's my problem. Me and my Tulpa, Jex, are trying to do possession. For now we're trying to move my right arm, but we aren't able to do it? The way i do it is that i relax my arm and then i visualize Jex doing the motions that we both want to happen, which is my arm to move. But it doesn't work. Sometimes i get this feeling that's kinda like my muscles feel like their moving but they actually aren't and my arm stays in the same place. Any advice, tips, or a different method i should try..?

 

And another question, can Tulpa influence dreams? Seeing as they are technically part of the sub-conscious, that would be plausible right? If you're having a nightmare, they could switch the dream or wake you up, or if you want to lucid dream they can help. So, is that possible or does the Tulpa phenomenon only work when you're conscious? If it is possible, mind sharing tips on how to do that?

[Linkzelda]

So, here's my problem. Me and my Tulpa, Jex, are trying to do possession. For now we're trying to move my right arm, but we aren't able to do it? The way i do it is that i relax my arm and then i visualize Jex doing the motions that we both want to happen, which is my arm to move. But it doesn't work. Sometimes i get this feeling that's kinda like my muscles feel like their moving but they actually aren't and my arm stays in the same place. Any advice, tips, or a different method i should try..?

 

I don't know how many times you attempted this, but whatever the case, you'll just have to keep practicing. I let Eva control my hands sometimes when playing video games (one of the easiest things to do while visualizing them doing so). You have the right mindset to visualize Jex going through the motions, and it's pretty much that, just go through the motions and keep at it. Any other method or whatever will involve some kind of guided imagery along with you relaxing your arm or another body part(s). Some may suggest that you could lift your arm up for a bit initially and then imagine your tulpa taking care of the rest.

 

And another question, can Tulpa influence dreams? Seeing as they are technically part of the sub-conscious, that would be plausible right?

 

In theory, yes, but of course, no credible evidence for this. However, I will say that for the lucid dreaming phenomenon, things like day residue in dreams can occur because sometimes the mind will base the dreams from things that happened during the day. For me, I can only give you personal anecdotes that when I attempted lucid dreaming in the first few months during 2011, depending on how much you do something during the day, it may be probable for you to experience a deviation of that in your dreams.

 

So if you follow that presumptive model with day residue in dreaming, if you have your tulpa in your thoughts or do activities with them a lot, you may find yourself dreaming some element of tulpas. But with how dreaming can be subjective, sporadic, and completely unpredictable, there's not really a fixed pattern on what will really happen. You may use things like dream incubation, self-hypnosis, guided imagery, and simple belief in things happening, but it's different for everyone who will have varying levels of skills such as self-awareness in their dreams.

 

 

 

If you're having a nightmare, they could switch the dream or wake you up, or if you want to lucid dream they can help. So, is that possible or does the Tulpa phenomenon only work when you're conscious? If it is possible, mind sharing tips on how to do that?

 

It's probable, but again, no credible evidence to back this up. If you're having a nightmare, depending on your awareness of it in the dream, or even if you're non-lucid and had intense emotions from it, you might wake up without the need of the tulpa rearranging the dream or waking you up. For tulpa to actually change the dream content when you're non-lucid implies they can be conscious throughout most of the non-REM and REM cycles, and there's not much evidence other than rare anecdotal cases.

 

However, if you are lucid in a dream, it's more probable for them to change the dream environment, however, because you're more intuitive with the confines of your mind in that lucid dreaming state, thinking it's your tulpa doing it becomes an overstatement. And even in non-lucid dreams, trying to find ways to validate if it was your tulpa or you unconsciously changing it is very difficult to prove (yet).

 

 

tl;dr The moment you start encroaching the lucid dreaming phenomenon into the tulpa phenomenon, you're entering gargantuan presumptive models and theories that although may have the potential to be akin with each other, there's just no scientific evidence for this (yet). Because entering that imaginative potential in lucid dreaming, even if your tulpa is highly sentient and independent, wondering whether it's you unconsciously changing it vs. them changing it (consciously or unconsciously), the latter would be presumably be considered symbolism. Of course, if they're vocal or even have some consistent level of non-linguistic communication to you, it's probable for them to say they changed a certain element for you, but that's up to you and your tulpa's face-to-face communication with each other.