Ayre April 6, 2014 April 6, 2014 I see what you're thinking, but perhaps you should re-read the question. The question is "Is it wrong to kill a tulpa?", to which one might respond "Only if it is benevolent"; so as to say it isn't wrong if the tulpa is malevolent. You're right. I was thinking of the question backwards. Thanks for clearing that up. OP I recant my question. Host: Ayre Tulpas: Coda and Segno Shameless Progress Report Plug: Ayre's Opus 1: Informal informative index of inhabitants in an invisible inner-world.
Jake0 April 6, 2014 Author April 6, 2014 I don't think you people understand what science is. Science is just a method for investigating reality. "Science" does not make tulpas sound lame. You did that, Bin, by making a bunch of assertions for which you had no evidence. If people actually did serious scientific investigations into tulpas, they might find that tulpas are indeed hallucinations with no sentience, or they might find that they are separate minds within their hosts' brains. You can't just assert that they aren't conscious and then call that "realistic" or "scientific" when no one has actually investigated this scientifically. You're right, it's really a second whole brain that grows in yours. I'm sorry. I never said anything about a second brain. I said they could be separate minds within their hosts' brains. Learn to read. Anyway if you actually look at psychology you'll find it's kind of a bunch of bullshit, there's no proof for anything unlike algebra. "Proof" is a term that only applies to logical absolutes in fields such as mathematics. One doesn't "prove" anything in science. One only develops models to explain and predict things, models which are always being improved and revised. And why are you picking on psychology specifically? To investigate what a tulpa physically is, we'd need to turn to neuroscience. I never said anything about psychology. Any time you ever find out anything, someone comes along and says it's different for them, which is not only why the classification of mental disorders exist but why everyone seems to have a disorder as well. I mean damn we already have like, what, 4 different words for autism? You're free to believe what you want, I'd hardly call psychology a scientific field, to the point where anyone's opinions are valid. The scientific field that anyone can edit™ Alright, you don't trust psychology. You have a very distorted view of how psychology works, but I understand that it's not the most well-understood area of study, although it's certainly not as nebulous as you seem to think it is. But I don't care. I'm not talking about psychology specifically. We have other methods of investigating what is actually happening within the brain. You talk as if psychology is literally the only field of study that attempts to understand the brain. Although, if you want a shoddy backup for what I said, I already gave my arguments. A tulpa is a concept because it behaves like a concept, it can be created, frozen, forgotten, remembered, have it's characteristics change on the fly, and most importantly behaves according to how you believe it will. Anyone will back this up, and several guides state it. It'll believe anything you believe, consciously or unaware. That sounds like a concept. And yet other people dispute what you have said. Many people claim that tulpas act in unexpected ways and make decisions that their hosts disagree with. All you have to go on is a bunch of personal experiences. My point is that you can't simply provide what is, by your own admission, a "shoddy" argument for your point of view and claim that you're being scientific. You haven't investigated anything. You haven't cited any studies. The only difference between you and everyone else on these forums is that you're the one who's claiming that science supports your position, when in fact you have no scientific evidence. You can't just provide your point of view and then claim you're being "realistic" about the whole thing. It could be that we investigate tulpas using neuroscience and we learn that they are actually separate consciousnesses within one brain, or that some of them are figments of imagination and that others are actual minds of their own. We do not know until we actually investigate. So stop pushing your close-minded, pseudo-scientific agenda on us and do something useful for a change: start by reading about the scientific method and how it relates to psychology and neuroscience.
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