Just a couple questions

[Senna]

- I'm having a lot of trouble. I like to think out stories in my head, and situations, and I even often talk to myself in my head, so I can't figure out of it's my tulpa talking, or if it's just one of my stories in my head...

- When you're in your wonderland, is it better to be in first person or 3rd person? First person's rather difficult.

[Guest Anonymous]

Do you think its your tulpa, or you? Ask your tulpa who it is, and you'll know. When you talk to yourself, is the wording similar to your own? If it is, its likely you, and probably your tulpa if it isn't.

 

As for perspective, I use a mix of both 1st and 3rd. I agree, 1st person is hard, but there is no real harm in using either. What do you feel comfortable with? Well then, that's good for you.

[Chupi]

Nobody can really tell you which way questionable responses are, though most recommend "assume it's your tulpa". This is because it's far better to accept some bogus responses than to reject real ones.

 

For perspective, I generally try for first person. I really see no reason it would matter that much, but I find that first person feels more realistic. I can think of a couple reasons you'd be popping out into 3rd person and find first person difficult. One is that constantly moving your point of view around requires more effort re-rendering everything as you move around. With a more fixed camera angle, most things you see stay in the same place. Another reason has to do with the types of video games (and possibly movies as well) you play. Play a lot of FPSes and you're more likely to see from first person more easily. Play 3rd-person view games and you're more likely to watch your own form move about in the wonderland.

 

Another trick for staying in first person is to imagine more of your senses as you move about. Just imagine sight and sound and it'll be more like a game or movie. Add in the feel of the breeze on your skin, the ground under your feet, smells, etc., and it'll be more like being there. That should in turn pull you more easily into first person view, as that's probably the only perspective you experience real life from.

[Lacquer]

Your internal monologue doesn't turn into your tulpa thinking your talking-to-self thoughts for you when you make a tulpa, if that's what you mean. At least that's what I think. While I think that it is good to consider contested things to be your tulpa, I don't think it is good to start considering every little potential thing (especially things that occurred before making a tulpa) to be your tulpa. Like how people interpret the same behavior in others (e.g. note-taking) as different depending on if the judging person was told that the judged person had a condition or not.

 

You could go for "disembodied camera" and only make your hands or whatever appear in first-person when necessary. It doesn't really matter. If third person feels more natural, do it. If you think that first person will be "more immersive", train yourself at it.

[Maverickthecat]

- I like to think out stories in my head, and situations, and I even often talk to myself in my head,

as do I exept I take the more insane route and talk out loud (some times).

As to that question about vocals IDK.

As to the wonderland related question, I rarely use a wonderland even though I prefer too. I try for 1st person and I'm probable stuck in 1st person but 3rd persons cool for working on your own form. But if you don't have a good form for your self (like me) it's hard to keep from turning into whatever comes too mind.

 

Then again your talking to a screwy person who gets vocal tulpas semi-easily, but sucks at making form's for them.

 

P.S here's one of my favorite story's to try; What if all the MLP fanfic started to flood the world?

[Senna]

Do you think its your tulpa, or you? Ask your tulpa who it is, and you'll know. When you talk to yourself, is the wording similar to your own? If it is, its likely you, and probably your tulpa if it isn't.

 

As for perspective, I use a mix of both 1st and 3rd. I agree, 1st person is hard, but there is no real harm in using either. What do you feel comfortable with? Well then, that's good for you.

 

Thank you! I've never really thought about wording. I'll keep it in mind now. 1st person is hard, but is it any better then 3rd, I wonder?

 

Nobody can really tell you which way questionable responses are, though most recommend "assume it's your tulpa". This is because it's far better to accept some bogus responses than to reject real ones.

 

For perspective, I generally try for first person. I really see no reason it would matter that much, but I find that first person feels more realistic. I can think of a couple reasons you'd be popping out into 3rd person and find first person difficult. One is that constantly moving your point of view around requires more effort re-rendering everything as you move around. With a more fixed camera angle, most things you see stay in the same place. Another reason has to do with the types of video games (and possibly movies as well) you play. Play a lot of FPSes and you're more likely to see from first person more easily. Play 3rd-person view games and you're more likely to watch your own form move about in the wonderland.

 

Another trick for staying in first person is to imagine more of your senses as you move about. Just imagine sight and sound and it'll be more like a game or movie. Add in the feel of the breeze on your skin, the ground under your feet, smells, etc., and it'll be more like being there. That should in turn pull you more easily into first person view, as that's probably the only perspective you experience real life from.

 

Thanks for replying! Haha, I think I have a lot of doubt issues, and I have a pretty bad feeling I've been ignoring him a lot...he seems mad at me. I definitely play and watch more 3rd person stuff. Rarely do I ever watch first person. Do you think are any downsides of 3rd person though? If there is, maybe 1st person is better? I've seen a lot of people say that 1st person is better, but not giving any paticular reason.

 

Your internal monologue doesn't turn into your tulpa thinking your talking-to-self thoughts for you when you make a tulpa, if that's what you mean. At least that's what I think. While I think that it is good to consider contested things to be your tulpa, I don't think it is good to start considering every little potential thing (especially things that occurred before making a tulpa) to be your tulpa. Like how people interpret the same behavior in others (e.g. note-taking) as different depending on if the judging person was told that the judged person had a condition or not.

 

You could go for "disembodied camera" and only make your hands or whatever appear in first-person when necessary. It doesn't really matter. If third person feels more natural, do it. If you think that first person will be "more immersive", train yourself at it.

 

Oh, your first sentence confused me for a second. Well, I don't want to assume most of my inner monologue is my tulpa...I think, I can't really tell the difference? Some people say to just assume everything is your tulpa, and that confuses me sometimes, because it's kinda like giving myself false hope?...

 

I think i'll try that "disembodied camera" idea, and see how it works out. Thanks for replying!

 

as do I exept I take the more insane route and talk out loud (some times).

As to that question about vocals IDK.

As to the wonderland related question, I rarely use a wonderland even though I prefer too. I try for 1st person and I'm probable stuck in 1st person but 3rd persons cool for working on your own form. But if you don't have a good form for your self (like me) it's hard to keep from turning into whatever comes too mind.

 

Then again your talking to a screwy person who gets vocal tulpas semi-easily, but sucks at making form's for them.

 

P.S here's one of my favorite story's to try; What if all the MLP fanfic started to flood the world?

 

Haha, I try to talk out loud sometimes, but there are too many people around for me to attempt. Do you find it any better, talking out loud?

 

I think I'm the opposite. I'm better at the forms, and worse at the vocals XD As for the MLP fanfic thing, I think that would probably be scary, yet amazing at the same time. That would be interesting to try...

[Kimnd]

Hey, I do the same thing! I have multiple story threads going in my head at once, but I've always been certian that it's me talking and not my tulpa(s). Well, it's not me... but the characters in the story aren't sentient and talking on their own, I'm directing what they say. I can even rewind and change what they say.

I also do the normal "talking to myself" thing, too. Though I've been doing it less lately.

But yes, if you can't tell if its you, it's probably better to assume it's your tulpa. You have to think critically about what really is you and what isn't-- if you focus on it, it'll become more clear over time.

As for first vs. third person, I find that I'm often viewing a scene in wonderland from something I like to call whatever-the-fuck-person. I seem to jump around a scene until I find the best place to view it, regardless of where my body is. I don't usually see my body, since I never bothered making a form for myself. But sometimes I do have to concentrate on what I look like in wonderland. When that happens, I'm almost always not in 1st person.

So I say do whatever works best for you. Like one of the people in this thread said, being in first person often requires a lot of readjustment, so I usually don't bother with it. Whether it's better or not depends on what you're looking for.

Ha.

Looking for?

That was terrible.

[Charles]

I think that's something most of us do, and definitely a skill that can work to your advantage. Just being able to produce a vivid sound in your head makes the vocalization process far easier. Separating your tulpa's voice from your other thoughts is something that develops naturally from tulpaforcing and meditation, just don't try to force it and don't question the results. Better you risk speaking with something other than the tulpa than ignoring a legitimate response.

 

I found shifting to first-person and concentrating on moving as if it were my real body to be two of the biggest factors in my visualization improvements. While it may be harder at first, you'll soon find yourself more grounded in a more stable wonderland. It's all about what works best for you in the end though, so do what ends up being comfortable.