Natasha September 8, 2012 September 8, 2012 Like the title says: I wish to know what your experience is with the mix of alcohol and forcing. I feel like it might help me out because i have trouble letting go of the entire "OH SHIT OH SHIT SHE TALKED, WHAT DO I DO WHAT DO I DO, PLEASE DONT START THINKING IT WAS YOURSELF OH GOD WTF FQFQWKPFQWFKPQWPOFKQPWKFQWOFKQWPOCKQKPOCQ" mentality. (Yes, that is in fact an actual scientifically proven state of mind) Feel free to answer even if you haven´t tried it, especially if you can think of any harm that it might do. De bedste og smukkeste ting i verden kan hverken ses eller røres, de må opleves med hjertet.
Frosty September 8, 2012 September 8, 2012 This would probably be better going under the "Tulpa and Drugs" thread, but I'm not a mod. So, to answer your question, I'm doing it right now. Well, I'm drunk and April and I are just chilling and trying to work on talking. But I'll prolly end up trying to actually force later so I'll get back to you. As far as most drugs and forcing goes, I don't see an issue with it as long as you can keep your shit together when you're high/drunk. But mostly I just end up getting distracted and not accomplishing much of anything under the influence of, well, anything. As far as any negative effects goes, I don't think that's a problem, unless the person forcing considers it to be one. Plus getting distracted and a greater chance of intrusive thoughts, but other than that I don't really see any issues with it. Best bet, if it's something you wanna try, then try it. You'll never know til you try. Tulpa's name: April Form: Human female Working on: Stuff My Progress Log "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." ~ Robert Oxton Bolton
Charles September 8, 2012 September 8, 2012 I've found that one beer/shot/etc. can be very helpful in narration-based tulpaforcing; much more than that may feel like more of a barrier than an aid if you're early in the process. It also, in my experience, makes it easier to hold lengthier sessions if you find yourself running out of steam 15 minutes in. Stick to sober/slightly high for visualization and imposition.
justanotherguest September 8, 2012 September 8, 2012 I'll try to theorize a little. Generally our ability to accept something as truth and choose appropriate actions from set of available depends on emotional background behind every thought. Alcohol boosts our general (because alcohol affects whole brain) level of emotional background to the "good" side. Thats why with alcohol it's easier to believe or act in such way you will never act usually. Even 50-100ml of good drink raises self-confidence very significantly, because we feel "good" emotional background behind any thought. Usually emotional background depends on experience, memory. But alcohol just raises it chemically. And thought you usually think of as "its impossible and stupid" becomes suddenly "maybe its good idea!". I personally think that moderate use of alcohol can help to break through negativism that usually blocks forcing attempts. After some success, thus getting good emotional background through experience, it'll be possible to force without alcohol. Though some tulpas don't like it. And there are tons of other things you can use.
Frosty September 9, 2012 September 9, 2012 Whatever he said. So yeah apparently acohol makes me believe everything April says. No questioning if it was me or her, I just accept it and go. Although when I'm picturing her or narrating I do feel more aware of the fact that what I'm doing is not normal, like it feels more awkward. The contradiction there is kinda hard to explain, but yeah that's what I learned today. Cheers. Tulpa's name: April Form: Human female Working on: Stuff My Progress Log "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." ~ Robert Oxton Bolton
Natasha September 9, 2012 Author September 9, 2012 Whatever he said. So yeah apparently acohol makes me believe everything April says. No questioning if it was me or her, I just accept it and go. Although when I'm picturing her or narrating I do feel more aware of the fact that what I'm doing is not normal, like it feels more awkward. The contradiction there is kinda hard to explain, but yeah that's what I learned today. Cheers. Thanks :) Monday morning seems like a nice time to try this out, i guess i´ll report back later. De bedste og smukkeste ting i verden kan hverken ses eller røres, de må opleves med hjertet.
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