Tulpa condition worsening- connection to disorders?

[Stardog System]

Hey! I've posted about my friend's strangely powerful connection to the wonderland and their tulpas before, but things have deteriorated significantly since then.

They have a walk in tulpa called Blaire, who is very negative. She's highly self-centered and has tried convincing the host to kts multiple times. Host has also tried dissipating her to no avail. Their tulpas are extremely grounded in the wonderland, and they can't be interacted with outside of it. Also, wonderland is increasingly realistic. Host has found himself unable to manipulate it anymore. Things like tulpas' legs being cut off, leaving them in pain, and not being able to regenerate them, or seeing monsters that he can't make go away. Also, when they get unwanted walk-ins, simply starving them of attention doesn't work anymore- he's resorted to actually imagining them walking through a portal and just not coming back. This is what they tried to do to Blaire, but they gave up after a few tries.

Anyway, this means that the walk ins they do get are incredibly hard to handle. One of their existing tulpas will often send new walk ins through the "portal" without clearing it with the host first. And when they do show up, the walk ins are fully developed.

The worst part is, Blaire and one of the other tulpas, Cyber, can now front when the host doesn't permit it. Blaire actually fronted and couldn't go back once, and she made some poor decisions that the host would not have made.  The host can simply walk away in wonderland and leave front, with no memory of what happened when they were out.

Host has significant past trauma and issues. I've known this person since we were in middle school, and i am essentially the only person they are able to confide in due to irl circumstances. I wanted to know if this sounds like it could be crossing into disordered territory? They have an extremely bad living situation with their parents, and are hoping to get therapy soon. At which point they will explain this to the therapist. I just wanted to get some opinions from experienced mancers on here.

Thanks.

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by MaybeMinthe

[Guest]

This creepy pasta stuff isn't tulpamancy, it's mental illness, get your friend some medical intervention by any means.

[Luminesce]

Definitely disorderly. The phenomenon of intrusive thoughts range from occasional accidents for some to full blown psychosis in others (most often with schizophrenia), and we usually draw the line once it gets excessive and say it's no longer a tulpamancy problem but a mental health one, meaning seeing a professional is necessary, not advice from random people online. 

 

Believing in pretty much any of that is always a bad idea, and while it does very rarely just get totally out of control for someone who doesn't have a disorder, just a very overactive (and gullible) imagination, most of the time it is moreso disorderly. Past trauma as you mentioned can also be highly correlated.

 

Unfortunately the only "tulpamancy" advice I have for such scenarios is to stop practicing tulpamancy entirely because they're well past being able to practice it healthily. In the case of unwanted switching though it is officially in professional-help territory, and simply "stop practicing tulpamancy" is almost never enough, instead requiring guidance from a professional (and if it does turn out to be a real disorder, probably an antipsychotic)

Edited December 8, 2023 by Luminesce

[Etna]

We agree with the others. It really does sound like your friend is in need of urgent psychiatric help.