Imposition/visualization from sleep deprivation.

[EightyEight]

It sounds similar to an OBE kind of like what they where discussing in the research forum a while back. The way you described it in the second paragraph *really* reinforces that. That feeling of not being able to move might have been sleep paralysis. I'm no authority on any of this, but it makes sense in my head.

 

EDIT: Took me a few tries to get the formatting right on that link, whoops...

[intelhunter]

 

I can get it from the drugstore. It's cheap and regulated as a dietary supplement rather than a drug here in the U.S. at least. Like $13 for 250 of them.

 

i can get them for free from my doc.

 

hooray for norwegian oil money!

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It sounds similar to an OBE kind of like what they where discussing in the research forum a while back. The way you described it in the second paragraph *really* reinforces that. That feeling of not being able to move might have been sleep paralysis. I'm no authority on any of this, but it makes sense in my head.

 

EDIT: Took me a few tries to get the formatting right on that link, whoops...

 

nah, i was inside my body the whole time.

[Guest Albatross_]

i was recently told in the IRC that you can do this without sleep deprivation, but i have yet to find out how. no drugs for me, i have to do them drug tests ;_;

 

Most hallucinogens are not tested for on a standard urine-based drug test. LSD, for instance.

And as a note, I have had the same experience with 'seeing through' the eyelids. I think it is classified under 'hypnagogic imagery' or some such term. Drugs are not the way to induce that or something similar to that. Generally you have little control over your hallucinations when using psychoactives.

[intelhunter]

 

Most hallucinogens are not tested for on a standard urine-based drug test. LSD, for instance.

And as a note, I have had the same experience with 'seeing through' the eyelids. I think it is classified under 'hypnagogic imagery' or some such term. Drugs are not the way to induce that or something similar to that. Generally you have little control over your hallucinations when using psychoactives.

 

are you telling me i can do drugs without getting caught?

 

i piss in a cup, and it gets sent to a lab, can i still go to outer space from my bedroom?

[Guest Albatross_]

are you telling me i can do drugs without getting caught?

 

I am presenting facts. Use them as you wish.

 

i piss in a cup, and it gets sent to a lab, can i still go to outer space from my bedroom?

 

That depends on the spaceship.

 

I quote Erowid:

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The SAMHSA-5 #

Federal government guidelines (by SAMHSA-the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) require that companies which use commercial class drivers licenses for employees must have a testing system in place. Among other things, this required testing program must test for 5 specific categories of drugs (referred to as the "SAMHSA 5", previously called the "NIDA-5"). Because of this federal requirement, most drug testing companies offer a basic drug test that checks for drugs in these 5 common categories.

 

-Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)

-Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)

-Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed) - does not include MDMA/MDA/MDE

-Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)

-Phencyclidine (PCP)

 

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Expanded Tests

Most drug testing companies also offer an expanded test which includes a few additional drug classes and specific drugs in the testing process. Most do not add all of these in their expanded test, but choose a different combination of 3 or 4 to add :

 

Barbiturates (Phenobarbital, Secobarbitol, Butalbital)

Hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin)

Methaqualone (Quaaludes)

Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Librium, Serax, Rohypnol)

Methadone

Propoxyphene (Darvon compounds)

Ethanol (Alcohol)

MDMA (Ecstasy)

 

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Additional Testables

In addition, there are a few other substances which it is possible but quite unusual to test for.

-LSD

-Tryptamines (Psilocybin, AMT, DMT, DPT, 5-MeO-DiPT)

-Phenethylamines (Mescaline, MDMA, MDA, MDE, 2C-B, 2C-T-7)

-Inhalents (Toluene, Xylene, Benzene)

[intelhunter]

 

I am presenting facts. Use them as you wish.

 

 

That depends on the spaceship.

 

I quote Erowid:

---

The SAMHSA-5 #

Federal government guidelines (by SAMHSA-the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) require that companies which use commercial class drivers licenses for employees must have a testing system in place. Among other things, this required testing program must test for 5 specific categories of drugs (referred to as the "SAMHSA 5", previously called the "NIDA-5"). Because of this federal requirement, most drug testing companies offer a basic drug test that checks for drugs in these 5 common categories.

 

-Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)

-Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)

-Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed) - does not include MDMA/MDA/MDE

-Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)

-Phencyclidine (PCP)

 

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Expanded Tests

Most drug testing companies also offer an expanded test which includes a few additional drug classes and specific drugs in the testing process. Most do not add all of these in their expanded test, but choose a different combination of 3 or 4 to add :

 

Barbiturates (Phenobarbital, Secobarbitol, Butalbital)

Hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin)

Methaqualone (Quaaludes)

Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Librium, Serax, Rohypnol)

Methadone

Propoxyphene (Darvon compounds)

Ethanol (Alcohol)

MDMA (Ecstasy)

 

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Additional Testables

In addition, there are a few other substances which it is possible but quite unusual to test for.

-LSD

-Tryptamines (Psilocybin, AMT, DMT, DPT, 5-MeO-DiPT)

-Phenethylamines (Mescaline, MDMA, MDA, MDE, 2C-B, 2C-T-7)

-Inhalents (Toluene, Xylene, Benzene)

 

hmm...

 

this could work.